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, "herupakraath" <herupakraath@...>
> "threefold31" <threefold31@> wrote:
> (The following reference concerns the TEQ & ALW gematria systems)
> > Another resonance, besides the pair of 156 and 204 that Tom
> > mentioned, is the strange case of the Cipher of II:76, where both
> > gematrias get the sum of 351 for the numbers and letters. This
> > only points up a symmetry, but it also shows what I think is
> > weakness of the EQ.
> There is measurable irony in your assessment that the EQ system is
> weak compared to the TEG system. The EQ (ALW) system uses the
> 1-26 for its gematria system. The chances of any similar system
> causing the letters in the riddle of II: 76 to enumerate as 208 at
> random are approximately 240:1.
> TEG uses the values 0-25, a slightly different set of values than
> what ALW uses. The chance that any system similar to TEG will
> the riddle letters to enumerate as 208 at random are 120:1,
> approximately half the odds of the ALW system.
> The enumeration 208 as created by either the ALW or TEG systems is
> statistically insignificant. The search for a divine fingerprint in
> the Book of the Law should start with extraordinary circumstances,
> not common ones.
Of course there are only a limited number of totals a serial gematria
will create for the letters of the great cipher of verse 2:76.
The weakness I spoke of is the fact that while the same total is
gotten in both systems, the TQ uses that total to generate the grand
total of the entire Book; the EQ is incapable of this. That is why I
say EQ is mathematically weak, in comparison to what the TQ gematria
does. It is also using the old paradigm of counting in base 10, but
that is another story altogether.
So yes, let's begin with extraordinary circumstances, shall we? When
you produce another gematria that performs as well as the TQ in
generating the total of the entire text from the contents of verses
2:76, 1:1, and 1:46, then you can make a claim as to how very simple
it is to achieve this. As of yet, you haven't been able to do that.
So I'll repeat the challenge; find a serial gematria set which
creates a total of 257,998 for all the English letters of Liber CCXX,
including the cipher. There must be millions of those, right? Now
within that group, find one gematria set that makes the first verse =
283, the letters of the cipher = 208, and the words 'nothing'
and 'sixty-one' = 176.
Once you've done that, then you'll have a gematria that performs
exactly as well as the TEG. It will be able to generate the grand
total of Liber CCXX; 267,696; in three different ways:
By multiplying the value of the first 27 characters of Liber CCXX
times the number of letters in each word of the first verse;
By multiplying the value of the cipher letters by 143 to get a factor
of the total,
By multiplying 8 x 80 x 418 and adding the value of the word Nothing
You already know the parameters of this challenge from another forum.
I repeat them here to make it quite clear to anyone who hasn't heard
The fact that the TEG gets a greand total that is directly related to
verse 1:46, by including all the numbers mentioned there as
parameters, mneans that the only possible grand total will be 267,696
for all letters, numerals, foreign letters and verse numbers in Liber
CCXX. This is because 8 x 80 x 418 = 267,520. Due to the
constraints of a serial gematria, 176 is the only value that the
words 'nothing' and 'sixty-one' can have and still make a grand total
that is a multiple of 143, (which is necessary due to the sum of the
numbers in the cipher verse being a factor of the total). Thus
267,520 + 176 = 267,696.
So I've made it pretty simple for you, and since there are
septillions of possible serial gematrias, surely you will have no
trouble finding one that performs just as well as the TEG. And then
once you have, we'll know exactly how common, or rare, such a
phenomenon is. Until you can produce such a gematria, your arguments
against the TEG have no statistical backing.