- Hi, As both an excercise in will-power and a preliminary step towards a more solid meditation practice i ve recenly (for the last month) begun to practiceMessage 1 of 4 , Sep 4, 2006View SourceHi,
As both an excercise in will-power and a preliminary step towards a
more solid meditation practice i've recenly (for the last month) begun
to practice Asana as described in 'Magick'. I presently practice for
30 mins each day having started with 15 minutes in the first week.
In practice (sitting in the kneeling position) I sit and focus on
"feeling" stillness and on willing my body to stillness. The tremoring
in my thighs and twitching in extremeties has reduced somewhat since I
began this practice, and for 'brief periods' during the practice
(which seem to correspond to periods of fairly one-pointed focus on my
objective) I can achieve a "relative" stillness accompanied by a
feeling of calm - though this is more a dampening of major movements
parhaps. As described, the practice becomes more uncomfortable
throughout, and the last 10 minutes are recently quite intense.
Some questions for those who have mastered this exercise:
For this practice to be a good basis for meditaion an absolute
cessation of percieved movement and sensation must be produced beyond
the brief periods of relative calm I can sometimes achieve now. Does
this actually happen? and how long, if one practices regularly, does
it usually take to reach this point? Also, what is the best way to
focus during this exercise - many sources I found mentioned that
concentrating on the sky / infinite / vacancy aided the feeling on
stillness, I've found that this helps. I've also found that during the
last 10 mins of the practice the pain in my lower legs makes good
focus tricky, and I tend to switch to a thought-watching focus
narrowed on the pain sensations. Any thoughts on this?
Thank you to any who take the time to help.
- Greetings fellow sufferer! I cannot consider my self a master of Asana (or of anything else, to be honest), but I am glad to see posts about practical mattersMessage 2 of 4 , Nov 14, 2006View SourceGreetings fellow sufferer!
I cannot consider my self a master of Asana (or of anything else, to
be honest), but I am glad to see posts about practical matters and not
only philosophical discussions. I do not claim to have the answers you
seek, so I only hope that my personal views and experiences will be of
Here's what I think. Asana is the purely physical part of Yoga. It is
a method to help you "override" all stimuli from your body, so they
won't be allowed to interfere with your actual meditation. Have you
ever been so absorbed when watching a movie, or listening to music
that you forget all about your self? You might be hungry, or have a
headache, but when the show starts you are suddenly able to ignore all
this without the merest concious effort. Now, that's Asana!
Acknowledging this, try the following:
-You should have chosen a more comfortable position. The tremor and
twiching of your thighs indicate muscular tension which should be
avoided. Unfortunately it is probably too late for you now to change
to a new posture, so just keep that in mind for future experiments.
-The absolute cessation of percieved movement and sensation is an
idealized state. I've never seen anybody being able to achieve this
constantly for half an hour! Do not be frustrated about that. Just
-Remeber that the trick is to ignore the pain! I try to focus on a
dark sphere, others use mantras. Just find something that suits you.
Also, try a ritual at some point! I always thought that in order to
perform a ritual correctly I should first achieve a satisfactory level
of mind control through meditation. I soon found out that that's not
always the case. In fact, while performing some minor rituals I
reached a whole new level of "focus" and "clarity", I've never
experienced while meditating!
I'll be waiting for your comments and results!
- 93 Magekoylen, First post here so apologies for lack of form and such. I agree with you about that it s good to have some discussion on practical mattersMessage 3 of 4 , Nov 16, 2006View Source93 Magekoylen,
First post here so apologies for lack of form and such. I agree with you about that it's
good to have some discussion on practical matters aswell as the philosophical diatribes
that, inevitably it seems, descend into ego led circular arguaments. Ego's that seem fair
game for Ben when he pricks them and sends them flying up their own ever decreasing
On asana I'm happy to say I've found a favourite that works well for me but it was one that
I had to persevere with as at the outset it was very painful to maintain. It's the fairly simple
'dragon' asana but I found it to be agony on the knees, deadening to the lower legs and
almost impossible to unfold myself from. I persisted after I read '8 Lectures on Yoga' and
the agony Crowley seems to have gone through himself. Persistance, for me, seemed to be
the key. Also I had a problem with, and this in no way paints me in a good light, salyva. I
was maintaining my breathing, getting into it and suddenly I had to either gulp or gargle
and cough my drool up thereby ruining everything. So I tried folding my tongue back to
the soft part of the roof of my mouth at the back and, hey, no more tears! It took a short
time to get used to doing it but it's well worth it.
My main problem isn't with the attaining of the single moment, emptying the mind, but
with the visualisation and activation of the Kundalini. Whilst I've invoked Sri Ganesha and
asked questions concerning this (which was eventful but that's another story) I seem to
have a block ( I know, I know, we all have, that's the point of activating the Kundalini) that
manifests in an inability to remember my dreams (which slowly seems to be working itself
out) and a physical manifestation of a deep backache after sleeping that disappears when I
rise (mundane causes have been ruled out). I wondered about other's experiences
activating their Kundalini and the Chakras.
- ... with you about that it s ... philosophical diatribes ... arguaments. Ego s that seem fair ... ever decreasing ... for me but it was one that ... maintain.Message 4 of 4 , Nov 23, 2006View Source"Lackdog" <wayne_illustrator@...> wrote:
> First post here so apologies for lack of form and such. I agreewith you about that it's
> good to have some discussion on practical matters aswell as thephilosophical diatribes
> that, inevitably it seems, descend into ego led circulararguaments. Ego's that seem fair
> game for Ben when he pricks them and sends them flying up their ownever decreasing
> rings.for me but it was one that
> On asana I'm happy to say I've found a favourite that works well
> I had to persevere with as at the outset it was very painful tomaintain. It's the fairly simple
> 'dragon' asana but I found it to be agony on the knees, deadeningto the lower legs and
> almost impossible to unfold myself from.<snip>
Why all this agony stuff? I have practised yoga for 23 years and I
have rejected most of the practices, favouring the style of Sabatini
and the Milan Yoga School of Practice.
I have found siddha or success to be easy to acbhieve.
I have since developed my own practice and achieved some lovely
experiences in accordance with the Book of the Law, Chapter One.
I ma also a Satanist and i haVE NATURALLY WORKED THIS YOGA INTO MY
The style is easy and produces amazing results in quite a short
Check out my website on:
Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law.
Love is the law, love under will.
Xeper, Bhuyah, Indulgence.
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