In a message dated 5/12/2006 2:08:30 PM Pacific Standard Time,
> Jim <odyl900@...>
> # What's the difference between a troglodyte and a thelemite?
> 333 wrote:
> a 'Troglodyte' is someone who has not ever heard of the
> New AEon and the Master Crowley Prophet hoo-haw. the term
> makes its appearance in some old OTO and other docs.
> it is effectively a slanted insult (hiding inside caves,
> the troglodyte is ignorant and backwards) comparable but
> more insulting than religious terms like 'goyim' and
> 'pagan' or 'cowan', as used by Jews, Christians, and
> Wiccans, respectively).
> this kind of 'us/them' paradigm fosters community and
> inter-group loyalty within the subculture and in some
> cases (as with Troglodyte) takes on an insulting or
> desparaging valence at least on the periphery or within
> the target non-group identified
> Jim: I agree. I meant the question as a rhetorical joke. In my experience,
> some people who self-identify as "Thelemites" have also gone to the extreme
> of adopting negative preconceptions toward people they have never met. I call
> that prejudice. It's also self-deluding. That's where the negative aspect of
> the word "cult" becomes useful, IMO. I know plenty of quality, freedom-loving
> people who have never heard of Thelema. I'm sure most people have.
Apparently the perceived division between "us" and "them" comes naturally to
people when something considered 'special,' just about anything deemed
important, is held in common among one or more people.
I happen to regard the individual as sovereign, and place all possible
emphasis on individual liberation and fulfillment. Even so, I find myself drawing a
line between those whose feel the same way about individuality and those who
Louis Culling liked the word "troglodyte." I believe it would be defined in
Thelemic usage as those who do not accept the Law of Thelema, Thelema as in 'Do
what thou wilt,' 'thou wilt' as in True Will.
I think it is a question of whether Thelemites, people who purport to hold
individuality above all else, should form themselves into a group or groups with
a group mentality, right? Is this hypocritical?
Interesting thoughts. :)
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