- 5004080404 viii om # Does Freemasonry have any degree strictly 3, something like 1 Entered Apprentice 2 Fellowcraft 3 Master Mason relating to specificMessage 1 of 42 , Aug 5, 2004View Source5004080404 viii om
#> Does Freemasonry have any degree
strictly 3, something like
1 Entered Apprentice
3 Master Mason
relating to specific practical knowledge
(as of geometry and of architecture), and
(later) of speculative knowledge/experience
and extended as 'appendant' rites,
such as anything post (c)OTO III.
#> that is similar to crossing the abyss?
sefirotic-masonic matrix solution? no doubt
there are several from which to choose, a
subset of the whole mention "abysses" and
some 'The Abyss', a transcendent object(ive)
of traverse or combination. presumably the
3>Abyss transition would lie somewhere
between the second and third stages, given
predominate descriptions of the territory.
#> I have met a lot of 33rd degree masons
by your assessment, their claim, or some
hypothetical mystico-magical state we
may not be capable of imagining?
#> and they seem to be nothing of the
#> sort of Baphomet. Lord of light and dark?
Baphomets are contra-masonry, essentially. :>
Light and Dark Lords are solar, lunar,
and seasonal, their polarity enters binary
mystical sensitivities and extremes.
# Of course! The systems are precisely alike.
nonsense, they are precisely opposed.
# Oh, no, wait, the systems are nearly opposite....
ridiculous, they are almost identical, especially
as they assume approximations or redefinitions
(as within new aeonic standards inverting hoaxes
and condemnation-schemes to new sacrility liturgies).
# I like when people banter about the AA.
there's the personality and history of initiation
and the technicality of it. the latter engages one.
# Not one Thelemite can agree as to what Thelema is
will. foundation of the willful,
the strident, the prophetic.
# or what it necessarily stands for,
will, a principle of the cosmos. several arcane
authors wrote on the topic in differing category
of speculation and form. for example, I just
rediscovered as anew a book I'd set aside
for study thelemic.
it should be mentioned in the company of Rollo May,
Paschal Beverly Randolph, Roberto Assaglioni,
and of course Rabelais' classic skewer.
The Master Spirit.
---- ---- ---- ----
The Master Spirit needeth none
Of brawny force to prove its skill:
It hath the Secret of the Sun,
That cosmic power, Magnetic Will.
shades of Mesmerism. this author later says that
*This book is not magical.* It promises nothing occult
or mysterious. It is simply a call to practical and
If you will steadfastly go through the requirements
marked out, this book will develop within you highest
wishes of welfare for self, it will make you a teacher
of self, it will inspire you as a prophet of self
brought to largest efficency.
ALL NOW RESTS WITH YOU!
"Power of Will: A Practical Companion-Book
For Unfoldment of Selfhood Through Direct
Personal Culture", by Frank Channing Haddock, Ph.D.
The Pelton Publishing Co., Meriden, CT, 1914;
pp xiv, Preface.
[from the Title Page:]
Founder of The Power-Book Library.
Author of "Power for Success,"
"The Culture of Courage,"
"Business Power", &c.,&c.,
In Five Parts: Embracing
The Theory and Practice of a Growing Will;
Direct Control of the Personal "Faculties;"
and Success in the Conduct of Affairs.
Vital Education is the Evolution of Consciousness.
# but everyone seems to know
# where the correct lineage can be found.
the explanatory index contains no 'brotherhood,' no 'order',
and the contents are primarily pragmatic (a bit of theory, then
training, exercises, "Mental Regime," "Destruction of Habit,"
"Correction of Other Habits," "Contact with Other People").
they have snippets at the end of every chapter, which mention
"The King", "'T is Wise Surrender Crowns the King", "Knighted",
and concludes with "The Will of the Child". it is Christian-
influenced (figures in the Index include: Aquinas, Francis Bacon,
Lord Byron, Edward Carpenter, Demosthenes, Emerson, Epictetus,
William James, Kipling, Luther, Mohammet (M's Visions),
Schopenhauer ("his method of work"), Socrates, James Sully,
Wellington (at Waterloo), Tennyson,
however, it *does* mention GRADES OF WILL!!!
plus he mentions a
"law of freedom of will"
"law of habit-cure"
"laws of association"
"laws of interest"
WJames' "laws of interest"
"principles of child will-culture"
"principles, basic, of will-culture"
"seventh principle of regimes"
"rules of action, neglect"
"rules of logic and thinking"
"rules for [various moods]"
"secret of concentration"
"secret of education"
"secret of personal magnetism"
"secret of masterful eyes"
"secret of great thinking"
"secret of of victory
"secret of will"
[p. 227 in Chapter XXI. Exercises in Memory.
"There is ... one 'golden rule' for improvement
of memory. The 'golden rule' is the iron rule
of *persistent and intelligent exercise*. The
first requisite of memory-cultivation is attention:
the second is found in the laws of memory. Memory
depends upon mental impressions, and these upon
attention, understanding, similarity and contrast,
and Will. All elements of success here call
primarily upon the latter.
"*The secret of Will is anticipation based on
"Talismanic sentences for growing consciousness"
"Talismanic sentences for hearing"
"Talismanic sentences for memory"
"Talismanic sentences for winning out"
"Watchword, of this book"
[p. 103 from Part Two: The Will and Sense-Culture
Suggestions for Practice
(*Intelligent work in
Will-culture must begin
"The *first principle*, then, *of Will-growth*,
is *observation*. The mind must learn to see things
as they are, to hear things as they are, to feel
things as they are....
[Quoting WJames] "This is the first lesson to be
learned -- the art of watching. Most of us went to
school before this art was cultivated, and alas!
most of the children still go to schools of the same
kind. There are proper ways of learning to watch,
but the usual object lessons in school result in
just the opposite. We, however, cannot go a step
further till we have learned how to watch."
"Hence, the watchword all along must be ATTENTION!
The Will must begin its work by resolving upon
persistent ATTENTION. To the various operations of
the senses Will must mightily attend! In all exercises
the watchword must never be forgotten: ATTENTION!
But attention for what purpose? For one sole purpose --
*Will-power!* The commanding formula, then, is: --
I RESOLVE TO WILL! ATTENTION!"
and exercise of it constantly.]
"Theory of Will, Author's"
"Present Theory of Will
"'The Will,' says a French writer, is to choose in
order to act." This is not strictly true, for the
Will does not choose at all. The person chooses.
But in a general or loose way the Will may be now
defined as a power to choose what the man shall do.
The choice is always followed by Volition, and
Volition by appropriate action. To say that we
choose to act in a certain way, while abstaining
from so doing, is simply to say either that, at
the instant of so abstaining, we do not choose,
or that we cease to choose. We always do what we
actually choose to do, so far as mental and
physical ability permit, we may *desire*, but we
do not *choose* in the sense of willing. In this
sense choice involves some *reason*, and such
*reason* must always be *sufficient* in order to
induce person to will.
"*A Sufficient Reason* is a motive which the person
approves as ground of action. This approval precedes
the act of willing, that is, the Volition. The act
of willing, therefore, involves choice among motives
as its necessary precedent, and decision based upon
such selection. When the mind approves a motive,
that is, constitutes it Sufficient Reason for its
action in willing, it has thereby chosen the
appropriate act obedient to willing. The mind
frequently recognizes what, at first thought, might
be regarded as Sufficient Reason for Volition, yet
refrains from putting forth that Volition. In this
case other motives have instantaneously, perhaps
unconsciously, constituted Sufficient Reason for
inaction, or for action opposed to that immediately
"We thus perceive four steps connected with the act
1. Presentation in mind of something that
may be done;
2. Presentation in mind of motives or
reasons relating to what may be done;
3. The rise in mind of Sufficient Reason;
4. Putting forth in mind of Volition
corresponding to Sufficient Reason.
"As Professor Josiah Royce remarks in 'Outline of
Psychology,' 'We not only observe and feel our own
doings and attitudes as a mass of inner facts,
viewed all together, but in particular we attend
to them with greater or less care, selecting now
these, now those tendencies to action as the
central objects in our experience of our own
desires.' 'To attend to any action or to any
tendency to action, to any desire, or to any
passion, is the same thing as "to select," or
"to choose," or "to prefer," or "to take serious
interest in," just that tendency or deed. And
such attentive (and *practical*) preference or
of one tendency or desire, as against all others
present to our minds at any time, is called a
voluntary act.' This is in effect the view of
the author taken ten years before the writing
of the first edition of the present work."]
definitely worth a looksee. it may be online somewhere. PD?
- 50041113 viii om Stephen Charest : # ...if crossing the abyss is the ultimate spiritual promotion, it isn t the ultimate. usuallyMessage 42 of 42 , Nov 13, 2004View Source50041113 viii om
Stephen Charest <schwarzegeiger@...>:
# ...if "crossing the abyss" is the ultimate spiritual promotion,
it isn't the ultimate. usually there are more described beyond it,
however they may be metamorphosed into one another. 'promotion'
also seems to participate in the idea that there are Overseers
or Guardians handing out promotions to the qualified candidates.
# is it appropriate for those of us who are still on this side
# -- whether, like me, just leaving the starting blocks or other
# who are waiting their turn to make the jump
that's a humorous image: mages in queue ready to cross.
# -- to make the determination as to who has "truly" crossed?
appropriateness of assessing actual spiritual advancement for
those interested in the method of SCIENCE is definitely
indicated. it is the method of RELIGION which will prevent us
from attempting such comparisons, evaluations, and dissuade
others from attempting achievement, rigidifying the tradition
surrounding their cultist leaders as the ultimate authorities.
far better to assemble a list as sri catyananda has indicated
as to the claims of occultists and what they did so as to get
an idea of behaviours with respect to subjective claims of
spiritual condition. moreso yet to get sounding reflections
from those who studied with or interacted with the occultist
in a meaningful and sustained way, over time.
# The crossing of the abyss bestows great powers and status
# on the crosee, it appears.
what is the nature of these powers? we ought to be able to
gather a list together of what is *said* about the terrain.
# Thus, she who has crossed has learned a Great Lesson.
one might also associate it with 'the Oath of the Abyss'
and indicate its nondual stature of consciousness, its
residency within what we might call 'God' (to preserve a
popular Judeochristian glorification).
# Yet everything I have read thus far tells me that the
# Crosee can't begin to come back and teach us what she
# has learned.
coming back is not necessarily required for expression.
return to that state of consciousness from which the
magician started the Crossing only delimits when that
Abysmal Crossing is post-mortem -- something I claim is
being used to dupe countless religiomystics (because
there is no soul or secondary spiritual 'body' -- it is
a fabrication to entice and enslave the Herd whose
*present* condition would otherwise incite rebellion).
# We have to climb that proverbial mountain for ourselves.
compare many other types of mysticism and their emphasis
on 'doing the work oneself'. it is fairly unusual for the
religiomagical aspirant to think that their superior can
donate the fruits of their labouurs to their 'account',
as it were. this line of argument is often used to inspire
conversion to the application of the cult's technology
(rites, doctrines, etc.).
# Personally, I would have to apply the "caveat bunko"
# test to anyone who claims to have crossed the abyss,
defining this would seem imperative. from what might one
be said to 'return'? are we talking about disembodied
ghosts as Masters or Secret Chiefs? if so, then your
suggestion requires some kind of 'reincarnation', and
then any human might be a Master of the Universe, having
traversed the stupendous spiritual Adventures in previous
lifetimes. within a traditional lineage where skepticism
about attainment is an dropped within the axiomatic
religious method to establish the continuing soul's path,
persona-vehicle, karma-shell, etc., and the "new body"
inhabited by the soul-meat-puppet (cf. Krishnamurti's
manipulated World Teacher debacle within Theosophy).
# then comes back and founds the Grand Temple of the
# Illuminated Pyramid or anything like it.
what it indicates: someone wishes to
give the impression of adeptship
make available the superior instruction
the former may be important to adepts, or may be used
by the sincerely deluded and the charlatan to achieve
their purposes. the latter can easily be evaluated by
comparison with other, more traditional, material,
as to its 'superior' quality. from lesser conditions
what is supposed 'superior' will of course be missed
in its actual character, mistaken for that of the
inferior or unknown quality (as it should be).
let everyone found their Grand Temples. let others
thereafter evaluate the need for such temples and
explain the value of any individual construct for
the benefit of those who are seeking them out.
# But I can't impose that determination on another.
imposition implies that the other will necessarily
adopt your assessment. it is correct that you cannot
impose that, and surely they would not accept your
determination as anything more meaningful than that
it comes from your keyboard. where your keyboard
gains in some kind of auspicious, or reliable,
reputation, so will the assessment mean more to the
reader. you *can* provide reflections from your
admittedly limited viewpoint (just like I do about
the magical/mystical condition of the Beast as a
failure due to the character of his text-trail).
# Nor can another, no matter how lofty his station,
# do that for me.
they certainly can, and within certain contexts it
is ENTIRELY appropriate (because the authority of
the reviewer *within a given context* is attested
or believed by their superiors). compare religious
and masonic traditions and how they recognize or
cease recognition of their comparable lineages.