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  • Mitch Markovitz
    Andy, It s not all that painful to speak about the wreck as over the years that s helped me get over the thing. It was 20 years ago this past January. My watch
    Message 1 of 18 , Aug 17, 2013
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      It's not all that painful to speak about the wreck as over the years that's helped me get over the thing. It was 20 years ago this past January. My watch was in the upper left pocket of my uniform vest. The chain, a heavy Simmons model made for railway use, shattered and disintegrated. The watch wasn't damaged at all.

      So you're aware of my experiences I was born in 1950 on the South Side of Chicago. I remember clearly the way the Loop was as early as '52. I had seen Desplaines Avenue as early as 1956 but can't recall seeing a CA&E train. My father made me aware of the line as discussions for the abandonment of the NSL mounted. I had seen the CA&E as a freight railway only and remember articles about it from Trains magazine.

      I rode the NSL many times as I did the South Shore Line. I began working at IRM in 1970. I'm one of the only electric railway enginemen that started at a museum and moved to a real interurban.

      I worked for the C&NW then The Milwaukee Road. I worked with many ex-NSL men. Howard Odinius got me my job on The Milwaukee. Three weeks later Howard had a fatal heart attack and I ended up being called off the extra board to fill his assignment out of Walworth.

      There were many similarities in the way the South Shore operated compared to the NSL.

      I knew a few CA&E men (Frank Kreczek amongst others) that frequented All Nation Hobby Shop in the Loop where I worked on my layovers in suburban service.


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      From: Andy Dishroon <droon124@...>
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      Subject: Re: [thegreatthirdrail] Re: Watch fobs



      Thank you for sharing that with me. I know that it's always tough talking about painful events in our lives. How did your Hamilton fair from that event? I do truly appreciate the knowledge that everyone has contributed on this topic and all the topics in the group. For a younger man such as myself, I find this is the best way to learn about the Roar'n Elgin and its related topics.  

      Thanks for keeping the C,A&E alive for me through your memories and sharing you knowledge with me. 


      On Aug 16, 2013, at 10:28 AM, "Mitch Markovitz" <art.mark@...> wrote:



      Pocket watches are enjoyable to collect, use, and wear. It sounds like you have a great example from our region's own watch company.

      The wreck touched many people and due to my relationship with them I don't want to go into too much detail..

      The wreck I'm referring to is the accident of January 18th, 1993 on the South Shore Line. This is the one where train 7 cornered train 12 on the west end of the gantlet track on the Pennsy Overhead (South Shore Line term.)

      At the time I had been a promoted engineman for about 7 months. On that day I was working a regular collector's assignment. As I had an appointment in the Loop that morning, serving as an expert witness in a law suit involving a family vs. the IC, I deadheaded one train earlier than my assignment, to Randolph Street. As a newly promoted engineman it was our practice on the South Shore to ride the head end to observe and gain further experience.

      When a collision became inevitable I through the door from the coach compartment to the vestibule open and ran for it. A moment later we struck, I was knocked to the floor, slid on my vest and belly 5 feet, and had a ton of stainless steel go right over me.

      Seven passengers were killed in the wreck, including a 10 year old buy who I had just been speaking with at Gary, a regular passenger traveling from his employment in Chicago to New Carlisle (who happened to be a C&NW fan) and a regular passenger who boarded the train with me at Ogden Dunes.

      Both enginemen were dismissed. One for failing to obey signals, the other for failure to act in the face of an impending collision. Yours truly ended up with a swollen right side and a sub-dermal hematoma. (spelling may be incorrect)


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      From: Andy Dishroon <droon124@...>
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      My plan is to carry my Elgin (and its a model 7 not 313) daily. I figured that you probably meant railroad standards had to be of higher quality. As far as I know it's only 15 jewels so its not a railroad standard. I found a chain off a cheap pocket watch I got when I was a kid that I'll use. If you wouldn't mind I'd kind of like to hear a bit more about that head on wreck. 


      On Aug 16, 2013, at 9:26 AM, "Mitch Markovitz" <art.mark@...> wrote:


      To make my statement clear it's not that a Hamilton brand railroad watch had to be kept at a higher standard than an Elgin brand watch. All railroad grade watches had to withstand greater use and maintain an accuracy level beyond the "civilian" grade watches produced by the same companies.

      Elgin railroad grade watches were an excellent quality watch.

      My favorites however were those indeed that came from Hamilton. My main watch, an early 992B Railway Special, was produced in February of 1941, just when the Electroliners went into service. I purchased it in February of 1966 from Sam Linzur, of Central Time Service, who was the time inspector for the Santa Fe.

      Since then the watch has survived high school, art school, the C&NW, The Milwaukee Road, the South Shore Line, a head on train wreck and my children. It was 3 seconds off when I compared time this morning with the Naval Time service.


      Mitch Markovitz, www.mitchmarkovitz.com 574.772.7939

    • glen brewer
      A little story I wrote about this topic: Grandfather s Watch, learning the intricacies and superiority of a railroad watch
      Message 2 of 18 , Aug 24, 2013
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