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  • Astrocalypse
    The list s Neptune is parallel Zuben Elgenubi ruling the 7th of the others in 5th, and Neptune is square to the star s tropical position. If you look at
    Message 1 of 33 , Feb 27, 2005
      The list's Neptune is parallel Zuben Elgenubi ruling the 7th of the 'others' in 5th, and Neptune is square to the star's tropical position.
      If you look at ancients' write ups on the South Scale, you will not find it very flattering BUT Brady says it relates to *positive social reform*.
      Many active contributors of the Urania list have placements on or near this position.  I think it relates to their abilities to make the best use of astrological resource (asteroids) available to them and make something of them, despite many astrological 'establishments' pooh-pooh-ing the little stones.  I certainly believe they contribute tremendously to the positive 'reform' of astrology.

      > --- In thefixedstars@yahoogroups.com, "mahtezcatpoc"
      > <mahtezcatpoc@y...> wrote:
      > >
      > > This group was created on February 26, 2005, at 7:15 p.m. Central
      > > Standard Time, in Carthage, Texas, USA.
      > Excuse me, that's 7:17 p.m.

      I have checked in SolarFire 5 for Brady fixed star aspects to major
      planets, the five most commonly used asteroids, the major angles, the
      lunar Nodes, the Vertex and the East Point in the chart for this group
      (conjunctions only, 1 00' orb), and found the following:

      Mars conjunct Vega (Alpha Lyrae)
      Saturn conjunct Castor (Alpha Geminorum)
      Ceres conjunct Agena (Beta Centauri)
      Pallas conjunct Diadem (Alpha Comae Berenices)
      South Node conjunct Arcturus (Alpha Bootis) and Spica (Alpha Virginis)
      East Point conjunct Denebola (Beta Leonis)

      Mark A. Holmes

    • Astrocalypse
      Ariondys, Thank you for the response. I don t always read all the posts myself and as you say, don t always answer in good time but I do try to be careful
      Message 33 of 33 , Mar 2, 2005
        Thank you for the response.  I don't always read all the posts myself and as you say, don't always answer in good time but I do try to be careful about who says what 'cause misunderstanding do arise on the net.
        I have got both scales conjunct something in my chart, they are both involved with midpoints aspects too, as well as the opposite angles, so I do see all sides of a story, generally, very much so !
        ----- Original Message -----
        From: Ariondys
        Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2005 10:55 PM
        Subject: [thefixedstars] Re: The Scales


        OK, that is thoughtful.  It seemed a bit glib at first, but I think I
        get what you are adding.

        Strange about the ine invisibility.  I can feel it.  Almost an urge
        not to reply, or to want to and not get around to it.  Strange indeed.

        I have seen others with this effect:  a big complaint about not
        getting answers, about being ignored, but that was ignored too.  I
        couldn't get past it.  The questions just weren't being asked well. 
        Too much work, too many questions...  and I am not getting around to
        paying attention to them.  TOOO many message boards, too many people.


        Cal wrote:
        > Ariondys,
        > The statements you attributed to Mark was actually made by me, not
        the first time I am totally ignored and become non-existent to some,
        but since you raised the question, I thought at least I could
        partially answer it.
        > As you said, there are two sides to the scales, one good, one
        evil.  The North Scale being the more positive supposingly.  However,
        when anyone looks at good and bad, there are always at least two
        sides to a story.  For example, Bush thinks that he is the heaven
        appointee, the good trying to rid the world of its evils. Then others
        think that he is in fact the evil one, the anti-christ.  As they say,
        the victors always get to rewrite the history, even unintended errors
        always perpetuate themselves.  For cognitive economy, people always
        generalised, so even if something happens once, even if the effects
        observed are much mistaken, once it is written down then rule
        followers would treat it as gospel truth without ever questioning
        it.  It is a truism that bad news sell.  Why look for the positives
        which yield no rewards and little thanks.
        > The traditionalists dismiss the outer planets, and some moderns
        dismiss the asteroids, and many in these categories reject fixed
        stars or jeborics.  It has always been *my* theory that everyone
        needing someone they can hate, put down, feel superior to, etc. to
        balance the projected aspects of their own inner scales.

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