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Re: [Be-Urania] Re: [Centaurs] Re: [thefixedstars] Star and constellation alignments with UB313 (was Baten Kaitos)

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  • Mark Andrew Holmes
    (you) Hi Mark, I have cut and paste my original post, I hope the format wouldn t have changed again by the time you receive this, note the editing arrows: ...
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      (you)

      Hi Mark,

      I have cut and paste my original post, I hope the
      format wouldn't have
      changed again by the time you receive this, note the
      editing arrows:

      QUOTE:

      ----- Original Message -----
      From: Astrocalypse
      To: thefixedstars@yahoogroups.com ;
      Centaurs@yahoogroups.com
      Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2005 11:49 PM
      Subject: Re: [thefixedstars] Star and constellation
      alignments with UB313
      (was Baten Kaitos)

      (me much earlier)

      >There's been some discussion on the Centaurs and
      >Be-Urania lists about 2003 UB313 having something to
      >do with feminism and human rights. This isn't a
      >terribly prosperous period for human rights or for
      >those who are trying to establish justice for women
      on
      >this earth.

      (you earlier)

      I think we have to give it to Raymond that he may have
      got it spot on with
      his original idea. The following article is from the
      London Sunday Times
      today and UB313 is now right on the 9th cusp of
      Japan's Mitsuhito Chart
      (Placidus).

      July 31, 2005

      Black museum of Japan's war crimes
      Michael Sheridan, Tokyo <snip>

      (you)



      Anybody who read the above would
      have seen that I didn't
      write this, I was merely quoting the words which I
      remember as parallel to
      what Raymond intuited in the first place. Granted, I
      didn't specify who
      wrote it but I had absolutely no intention of
      plagiaring, I gave credit to
      Raymond because in my mind he was the original
      thinker, I am sorry I didn't
      find Raymond's words and quoted his original words
      instead. Anyone who
      followed the thread would have known who wrote what
      and I don't honestly
      think people really give a damn either way.

      (me)

      I wasn't accusing you of plagiarizing, just reminding
      you that those were my words. Everybody makes
      mistakes.

      (you)


      Wrong attribution is easily and
      often done.


      (me)

      True.

      (you)

      I just noted
      that today someone on a psych list took the
      information I researched and
      posted to another list without credit either and I am
      not ready to jump down
      that person's throat.

      (me)

      If I came across as doing that, it was unintentional,
      and I apologize.

      (you)


      Even though you may not be aware, I
      am certainly not trying to cultivate any personal
      friendship with any
      particular individuals. There are enough taking sides
      and antagonistic
      attitudes around.


      (me)

      I don't know what you mean.

      (you)

      Still, you wrote the words and
      credit is hereby given and
      I am truly sorry you even had to show your hostility
      so publicly. I will
      certainly try never to quote you again save that you
      are offended again.

      (me)

      I don't care if you quote me or not, but if you think
      I was aggressive toward you, then I'm sorry.

      (you)


      btw, I didn't send your writing all over the
      place, only the three
      lists with lots of membership duplications.

      (me)

      Okay. :)

      (you)

      For this very reason, I am also
      copying this email to the fixed stars and B-Urania
      list. You have my public
      apology for not having specifically mentioning you
      were the writer of the
      following words

      Quote

      (me earlier)

      >> >There's been some discussion on the Centaurs and
      >> >Be-Urania lists about 2003 UB313 having something
      >> to
      >> >do with feminism and human rights. This isn't a
      >> >terribly prosperous period for human rights or for
      >> >those who are trying to establish justice for
      women
      >> on
      >> >this earth



      Mark A. Holmes


      ----- Original Message -----
      From: "Mark Andrew Holmes" <mahtezcatpoc@...>
      To: <thefixedstars@yahoogroups.com>;
      <Centaurs@yahoogroups.com>;
      <Be-Urania@yahoogroups.com>
      Sent: Monday, August 01, 2005 10:30 PM
      Subject: [Centaurs] Re: [thefixedstars] Star and
      constellation alignments
      with UB313 (was Baten Kaitos)


      > This is the full text of my post to the Fixed Star
      > list which Astrocalypse has reposted all over the
      > place.
      >
      > (begin)
      >
      >
      > --- "Di anaK.Rosenbergye-stars@...6
      > wrote:
      >
      >> > To: thefixedstars@yahoogroups.com
      >> > Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2005 3:20 AM
      >> > Subject: Re: [thefixedstars] Fwd: TENTH PLANET:
      >> position
      >>
      >> > Mark Andrew Holmes <mahtezcatpoc@...>
      >> wrote:
      >>
      >> > Now at 21 Aries 04, it's aligned with Baten
      >> Kaitos
      >> > (Zeta Ceti). I don't know what else, if
      anything.
      >> >
      >> > Baten Kaitos isn't considered very positive in
      >> its
      >> > influence...
      >>
      >> > Mark A. Holmes
      >
      > Diana Rosenberg wrote this:
      >
      >
      >>
      >> Hi Mark -
      >>
      >> Here's the Baten Kaitos section of my new Fixed
      >> Stars Report
      >> Writer (programmed by Esoteric Technologies, the
      >> Solar Fire
      >> people:
      >>
      >> Baten Kaitos is Zeta Ceti in the belly of Cetus,
      the
      >> Sea-Monster, a star that that is accompanied in
      >> these
      >> celestial longitudes by Delta, Delta Andromedae in
      >> the
      >> breast of Andromeda, the Chained Woman, Zeta
      >> Andromedae in
      >> her chained left arm, and 20 Cephei in the head of
      >> Cepheus,
      >> the King.
      >
      > And I wrote this:
      >
      >
      > Also, parts of Pisces (I think the Northern Fish and
      > some of the cord) and Fornax (I think most of the
      > Furnace), plus Reticulum and Horologium.
      >
      > There's been some discussion on the Centaurs and
      > Be-Urania lists about 2003 UB313 having something to
      > do with feminism and human rights. This isn't a
      > terribly prosperous period for human rights or for
      > those who are trying to establish justice for women
      on
      > this earth.
      >
      > (ends)
      >
      >
      > --- Astrocalypse <astrocalypse@...>
      > wrote:
      >
      > *I* wrote this paragraph, not you, Astrocalypse:
      >
      >>
      >> >There's been some discussion on the Centaurs and
      >> >Be-Urania lists about 2003 UB313 having something
      >> to
      >> >do with feminism and human rights. This isn't a
      >> >terribly prosperous period for human rights or for
      >> >those who are trying to establish justice for
      women
      >> on
      >> >this earth.
      >
      > The following words are yours.
      >
      >
      >>
      >> I think we have to give it to Raymond that he may
      >> have got it spot on with his original idea. The
      >> following article is from the London Sunday Times
      >> today and UB313 is now right on the 9th cusp of
      >> Japan's Mitsuhito Chart (Placidus).
      >
      >
      >
      > Try and be a little more careful next time.
      >
      >
      > Mark A. Holmes




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