Re: anyone pondering the winter Ingress chart?
Fine you put it here! Today as there is Mercury and Persephone
conjoining in Capricorn, I know what Sun-Pluto likes a lot...
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> Comments inserted.... took a few lines from Ann Wrights pages at
> for convenience sake here. also I use + for North declinations and -
> for south declinations in case anyone gets confused by my notation.
> just because its is closer on keyboard to numbers the S & N :)
> everything quoted is from Ann's page, and the sources she gives
> included. I made a few comments,
> > December 21, 2008
> > 12:03:46 p.m. GMT
> > London
> > Moon
> > Arcturus (Alpha Bootis)
> star in the knee of the herdsman,
> With Moon: New friends, business success, good judgment, domestic
> harmony. If with Mars also, danger of death by suffocation. [Robson*,
> > Spica (Alpha Virginis)
> signifies the spear of wheat in the Virgins hand (we are all
> concerned with harvest in hard times I think)
> Robson says the moon with Spica brings gains through inventions ,
> success, wealth and honor from Mercury,venus or Jupitor People.
> > Sun
> > Sinistra (Nu Ophiuchi)
> "gives an imoral mean and slovenly nature." anne wright page
> Beth - Declination is -26 which aligns it more closely with
> Spiculum who is at 1 Cap but whose Declination is at -24
> (sun is between these two but moving toward Spiculum)
> on the Cluster of Stars on the Bow of Sagitarius
> The means of launching new things? possibly?
> > Mercury (14 cap 13 declination - 24.53)
> > Ascella (Zeta Sagittarii)2000 13 Cap 38 - declination -29.53
> ARmpit of the ARcher (String arm) mercury(communication) the means of
> launching new things possibly?
> Of the nature of Jupiter and Mercury. It gives good fortune and
> happiness. [Robson*, p.141.]
> > Manubrium (Omicron Sagittarii)in 2000 14 Cap 59 -21.44
> Star is called the handle?
> Beth - is in the face of the archer - possibly further denoting
> speach or communication?
> "Part of the cluster in the Archer's Face. Of the nature of the Sun
> and Mars. It causes blindness, explosions, fire, flaring heat,
> heroism, courage, and defiance." [Robson*, p.173-174.]
> To find a major planet in a chart very precisely on Manubrium rather
> than its neighbors (which are very close in longitude) is likely to
> show up the more aggressive connotations of the constellation and
> sign here, we should often find less of the philosopher than the high-
> performance athlete or the high court judge. The military strategist
> is also likely to have this star strong. [The Living Stars, Dr. Eric
> Morse, p.96-97.]
> > Venus 15 Aqu 35 -18 declination
> > Alnair (Alpha Gruis) 15 Aqu 54 -46.58 declination
> Star marking the body of the Crane -
> A retiring, active, proud, watchful, kind, idealistic and devoted
> nature, with a liking for astronomy. [Robson*, p.46.]
> Beth-cranes are thought ot be bringers of fortune by most cultures.
> They are beautiful to look at so Venus here makes me wonder at
> possibly seeing some of the arts highlighted for a bit.
> > Mars - 25 sag 41 -23.58 declination
> > Shaula (Lambda Scorpii)24 sag 35 and -37 declination
> > Aculeus (M-6 Scorpii; the Butterfly Cluster)25 sag 44 -32
> companion star to Acumen, located int eh stinger
> "The Scorpion presides over arms" [Manilius, Astronomica, 1st century
> AD, book 4, p.253]
> Notorious Blind Star.
> Beth - many references to striking achilles heel, etc. the star is of
> the nature of mars and Moon so mars aligned probably brings out Mars
> nature.??? I would think?
> > Jupiter - 26 cap 33 and -21 dec
> > Terebellum (Omega Sagittarii)25 cap 51 -26 dec
> in the point of the arrow of Sagitarius - ( beth note: which
> continues the theme of launching new things, and since jupiter
> generally means good things let us hope that to be true, especially
> as jupiter is the ruler of Sagitarius. :)
> It gives a fortune but with regret and disgrace, cunning, a mercenary
> nature and repulsiveness. [Robson*, p.213.].
> "As for the Archer, when the foremost portion of his cloak rises, he
> will give birth to hearts renowned in war and will conduct the
> conqueror, celebrating great triumphs in the sight of all, to his
> country's citadels. Such a one will build high walls (moenia from
> Latin murus) one moment and pull them down the next. But if Fortune
> favours them too generously with success, the mark of her envy is to
> be seen on their faces, for she works cruel havoc upon their
> features. So was it that a dread warrior* paid for his victories at
> the Trebia, Cannae, and the Lake, even before the hour of his
> retreat, with such disfigurement." [Translator's note: *Hanibal who
> lost an eye (Livy 22.2.11: Sagittarius is one-eyed; see p.103)
> [Manilius, Astronomica, 1st century AD, book 4, p.267]
> > Saturn 21 Virgo 40 +5 dec
> Beth : Saturn is debilitated in Leo and though in tropical zodiac he
> appears to be in Virgo, on paper that is, in the sky he is still in
> Leo. He will move in the sky out of Leo Next September, Which I
> expect to see some improvement in the world by then.
> > Denebola (Beta Leonis)21 Virgo 37 and +14
> tail of the lion
> According to Ptolemy Denebola is of the nature of Saturn and Venus;
> to Wilson and Pearce, of Saturn, Venus and Mercury; to Simmonite, of
> Uranus; and, to Alvidas, of Mercury, Uranus and Mars. It gives swift
> judgment, despair, regrets, public disgrace, misfortune from the
> elements of nature, and happiness turned to anger, and makes its
> natives noble, daring, self-controlled, generous and busy with other
> people's affairs. [Robson*, p.160-161.]
> The 'Tail of the Lion' has a Uranian nature and it is supposed that,
> in mundane horoscopes, major catastrophes are triggered off by it.
> Depending on the position and aspect to other stellar bodies in a
> personal cosmogram, either preferment or fall are credited to this
> star. Found on the Ascendant and especially in company with Mercury,
> a quarrelsome nature, with a liking for legal action is attributed to
> Denebola. It could also mean that this star is the cause of very
> exciting events. Badly placed in a map, with Mercury or Uranus,
> mental diseases - and those mostly incurable ones - are indicated.
> Fine aspects however, will further work connected with matters of
> reform and progress. [Fixed Stars and Their Interpretation, Elsbeth
> Ebertin, 1928, p.56.]
> in a birth chart.
> With Saturn: Critical, always complaining, many enemies, loss through
> servants and thieves, unfortunate life, domestic sorrow, wife
> afflicted or children mentally unsound or deformed. [Robson*, p.162.]
> Beth - which mundanely may manifest as a lot of protests and domestic
> unrest I should think.
> Uranus - 18 Pis 59 -5 dec
> Beth - closest fixed star I can find is Homam in Pegasus, but it is
> at 16 Pisces so far enough away that probably dont want to apply too
> loosly, though I think that the SAturn Uranus opposition is a very
> apt description of Pegasus Syndrome.
> > Neptune 22 Aqu 08 -14 dec
> > Nashira (Gamma Capricorni)21 Aqu 47 -16 dec
> in the tail of the goat, The star is considered the bringer of good
> Legend: During their war with the giants, the Gods were driven into
> Egypt and pursued by Typhon. In order to escape, each was forced to
> change his shape, and Pan, leaping into the Nile, turned the upper
> part of his body into a goat and the lower part into a fish, a shape
> considered by Jupiter worthy of commemoration in the heavens.
> [Robson*, p.35.]
> According to Ptolemy it is of the nature of Saturn and Jupiter; and,
> to Simmonite, of Saturn. It causes overcoming by evil, which is
> turned to success, and gives danger from beasts. [Robson*, p.179.]
> This star is also related to Justice.
> > Pluto 0.52 Cap and -18 dec
> > Sinistra (Nu Ophiuchi)
> > Spiculum (M-18/M-20/M-21 Sagittarii)
> Beth - I think Pluto as well as sun here may refer to changing of the
> guard in management (government, business, religion, where ever
> management is found there will be a tearing down and building up anew
> where it doesn't work well) my interpretation others may vary the
> whole bow and arrow thing, makes me think launching of new things.
> > Ceres 12 Virgo 04 +17
> > Zosma (Delta Leonis)11 Virgo 19 +20
> on lions Rump
> Of the nature of Saturn and Venus. It causes benefit by disgrace,
> selfishness, egotism, immorality, meanness, melancholy, unhappiness
> of mind and fear of poison, and gives an unreasonable, shameless and
> egotistical nature. [Robson*, p.219.]
> Ability to prophesy. On the Euphrates the star theta (¦È Coxa),
> with this star delta (¦Ä Zosma), was the god Kua, the Oracle.[Fixed
> Stars and Judicial Astrology, George Noonan, 1990, p.32.]
> > Juno 17 Cap 41 -14 dec
> Beth - The mother Figure connected to the knee of Sagitarius is a
> very interesting idea, it connects mother and travel or movement,
> possibly this is the signifier of the change and care of the auto
> industry? it needs some parenting? both in helping it change to a
> healthier industry but also nursing it along?
> > Rukbat (Alpha Sagittarii)16 Cap 38 -18 dec
> knee of Sagitarius
> > Vesta 29 Aries 39 +4 - tender of the hearth
> > Mirach (Beta Andromedae)0 tau 24 +35 dec
> yellow star in girdle of chained woman
> According to Ptolemy it is of the nature of Venus; and, to Alvidas,
> of Mars and the Moon. It gives personal beauty, a brilliant mind, a
> love of home, great devotion, beneficence, forgiveness, love,
> overcoming by kindness, renown, and good fortune in marriage.
> [Robson*, p.178.] (Beth - which sounds very Vesta like doesn't it?)
> Legend: Andromeda, the original "maiden in distress" is daughter of
> Cepheus, king of Ethiopeia, and his wife Cassiopeia. Cassiopeia was
> proud of her daughter's beauty and boasted that Andromeda was more
> beautiful than the Sea Nymphs, the Nereids, who were daughters of
> Poseidon (Neptune). The Nereids complained to Poseidon who sent a sea
> monster (Cetus) to ravage the coast. With his kingdom in grave
> danger, Cepheus consulted the oracle of Ammon in Libya for advice. He
> learned the only way to save his kingdom was to sacrifice his
> daughter, Andromeda, to the sea monster. Andromeda is chained to a
> rock and left to the mercy of the monster. The hero, Perseus, riding
> through the air on winged sandals arrives at the scene and they fall
> in love. Perseus had a quick consultation with Cepheus and
> Cassiopeia; it is agreed that if he rescues their daughter, he could
> marry her. The sea monster (Cetus) arrives and Perseus kills it by
> turning it to stone with the Medusa's Head (Algol). Perseus breaks
> the chains that bound Andromeda to the rock and frees her. The
> wedding follows.
> According to Ptolemy the influence of this constellation is similar
> to that of Venus, though the legend would lead one to suppose some
> connection with Virgo. It is said to bestow purity of thought,
> virtue, honor and dignity upon its natives, but to cause battle with
> chimerical (wildly fanciful, highly improbable) fears and a tendency
> to become easily discouraged. It gives love between husband and wife
> and reconciles adulterers. If Mars afflicts the luminaries from
> Andromeda and especially if in an angle, it causes death by hanging,
> decapitation, crucifixion or impalement. By the Kabalists it is
> associated with the Hebrew letter P¨¦ and the 17th Tarot Trump, The
> Stars. [Robson*, p.26.]
> > Alrisha (Alpha Piscium)29 Aries 23 +2 dec
> Legend: Venus and her son Cupid while sitting on the bank of the
> Euphrates suddenly saw Typhon, the enemy of the Gods, approaching
> them. They leapt into the river and were saved from drowning by two
> fishes, who were afterwards placed in the heavens by Venus in
> gratitude for their help. [Robson*, p.57.]
> > Chiron 17 aqu 44 -9 dec
> Beth - wounded healer aligned with the warrior philosophers of the
> > Sualocin (Alpha Delphini) 17 Aqu 23 +16 dec
> Legend: When Amphitrite, who was sought as a wife by Neptune, hid
> herself, the God sent messengers to find her. The dolphin was the
> first to succeed and persuaded her to consent to the marriage, for
> which service Neptune placed him in the heavens. According to other
> accounts it is one of the pirates who were changed into dolphins by
> Bacchus on his voyage to Ariadne. [Robson*, p.42.]
> Pholus and Kuma (draco) are aligned, Beth - both represent someone
> who was assigned the task of protecting something.
> Varuna aligned with Castor
> Varuna - Hindu God of water/having dominion over the oceans.
> Castor is the Mortal Twin - (castor sometimes called hercules)
> "The arms to shoulders joined are accounted to the Twins" [Manilius,
> From the Twins come less laborious callings and a more agreeable way
> of life, provided by varied song and voices of harmonious tone,
> slender pipes, the melodies inborn in strings and the words fitted
> thereto: those so endowed find even work a pleasure. They would
> banish the arms of war, the trumpet's call, and the gloom of old age:
> theirs is a life of ease and unfading youth spent in the arms of
> love. They also discover paths to the skies, complete a survey of the
> heavens with numbers and measurements, and outstrip the flight of the
> stars: nature yields to their genius, which it serves in all things.
> So many are the accomplishments of which the Twins are fruitful.
> [Manilius, Astronomica, 1st century AD. p.281.]
> Both Varuna and Castor are linked to Jupiter so may give a jupiter
> influence here.
> > Uranus, Eris and Pallas don't seem to be aligned with any of the
> > Robson, Ebertin, Rigor or Bernadette wrote about.
> > Mark A. Holmes
> well that is the gist of the themes I've collected thus far,