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  • oparhi
    Hi, Fine you put it here! Today as there is Mercury and Persephone conjoining in Capricorn, I know what Sun-Pluto likes a lot... Outi ... along ... [Fixed
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      Hi,

      Fine you put it here! Today as there is Mercury and Persephone
      conjoining in Capricorn, I know what Sun-Pluto likes a lot...

      Outi


      --- In thefixedstars@yahoogroups.com, "msbhavens1" <msbhavens1@...>
      wrote:
      >
      > Comments inserted.... took a few lines from Ann Wrights pages at
      > http://www.constellationsofwords.com/
      > for convenience sake here. also I use + for North declinations and -
      > for south declinations in case anyone gets confused by my notation.
      > just because its is closer on keyboard to numbers the S & N :)
      > everything quoted is from Ann's page, and the sources she gives
      > included. I made a few comments,
      >
      > >
      > > December 21, 2008
      > > 12:03:46 p.m. GMT
      > > London
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > > Moon
      > >
      > > Arcturus (Alpha Bootis)
      > star in the knee of the herdsman,
      > With Moon: New friends, business success, good judgment, domestic
      > harmony. If with Mars also, danger of death by suffocation. [Robson*,
      > p.139.]
      > > Spica (Alpha Virginis)
      > signifies the spear of wheat in the Virgins hand (we are all
      > concerned with harvest in hard times I think)
      > Robson says the moon with Spica brings gains through inventions ,
      > success, wealth and honor from Mercury,venus or Jupitor People.
      > >
      > >
      > > Sun
      > > Sinistra (Nu Ophiuchi)
      > >
      > "gives an imoral mean and slovenly nature." anne wright page
      >
      > Beth - Declination is -26 which aligns it more closely with
      > Spiculum who is at 1 Cap but whose Declination is at -24
      > (sun is between these two but moving toward Spiculum)
      > on the Cluster of Stars on the Bow of Sagitarius
      > The means of launching new things? possibly?
      >
      > > Mercury (14 cap 13 declination - 24.53)
      > > Ascella (Zeta Sagittarii)2000 13 Cap 38 - declination -29.53
      > ARmpit of the ARcher (String arm) mercury(communication) the means of
      > launching new things possibly?
      >
      > Of the nature of Jupiter and Mercury. It gives good fortune and
      > happiness. [Robson*, p.141.]
      >
      > > Manubrium (Omicron Sagittarii)in 2000 14 Cap 59 -21.44
      > Star is called the handle?
      > Beth - is in the face of the archer - possibly further denoting
      > speach or communication?
      >
      > "Part of the cluster in the Archer's Face. Of the nature of the Sun
      > and Mars. It causes blindness, explosions, fire, flaring heat,
      > heroism, courage, and defiance." [Robson*, p.173-174.]
      >
      > To find a major planet in a chart very precisely on Manubrium rather
      > than its neighbors (which are very close in longitude) is likely to
      > show up the more aggressive connotations of the constellation and
      > sign here, we should often find less of the philosopher than the high-
      > performance athlete or the high court judge. The military strategist
      > is also likely to have this star strong. [The Living Stars, Dr. Eric
      > Morse, p.96-97.]
      >
      > > Venus 15 Aqu 35 -18 declination
      >
      > > Alnair (Alpha Gruis) 15 Aqu 54 -46.58 declination
      > Star marking the body of the Crane -
      > A retiring, active, proud, watchful, kind, idealistic and devoted
      > nature, with a liking for astronomy. [Robson*, p.46.]
      >
      > Beth-cranes are thought ot be bringers of fortune by most cultures.
      > They are beautiful to look at so Venus here makes me wonder at
      > possibly seeing some of the arts highlighted for a bit.
      >
      >
      > > Mars - 25 sag 41 -23.58 declination
      >
      > > Shaula (Lambda Scorpii)24 sag 35 and -37 declination
      > > Aculeus (M-6 Scorpii; the Butterfly Cluster)25 sag 44 -32
      > declination
      > companion star to Acumen, located int eh stinger
      > "The Scorpion presides over arms" [Manilius, Astronomica, 1st century
      > AD, book 4, p.253]
      > Notorious Blind Star.
      >
      > Beth - many references to striking achilles heel, etc. the star is of
      > the nature of mars and Moon so mars aligned probably brings out Mars
      > nature.??? I would think?
      > >
      > > Jupiter - 26 cap 33 and -21 dec
      > >
      > > Terebellum (Omega Sagittarii)25 cap 51 -26 dec
      > in the point of the arrow of Sagitarius - ( beth note: which
      > continues the theme of launching new things, and since jupiter
      > generally means good things let us hope that to be true, especially
      > as jupiter is the ruler of Sagitarius. :)
      >
      > It gives a fortune but with regret and disgrace, cunning, a mercenary
      > nature and repulsiveness. [Robson*, p.213.].
      >
      > "As for the Archer, when the foremost portion of his cloak rises, he
      > will give birth to hearts renowned in war and will conduct the
      > conqueror, celebrating great triumphs in the sight of all, to his
      > country's citadels. Such a one will build high walls (moenia from
      > Latin murus) one moment and pull them down the next. But if Fortune
      > favours them too generously with success, the mark of her envy is to
      > be seen on their faces, for she works cruel havoc upon their
      > features. So was it that a dread warrior* paid for his victories at
      > the Trebia, Cannae, and the Lake, even before the hour of his
      > retreat, with such disfigurement." [Translator's note: *Hanibal who
      > lost an eye (Livy 22.2.11: Sagittarius is one-eyed; see p.103)
      > [Manilius, Astronomica, 1st century AD, book 4, p.267]
      >
      >
      > > Saturn 21 Virgo 40 +5 dec
      > Beth : Saturn is debilitated in Leo and though in tropical zodiac he
      > appears to be in Virgo, on paper that is, in the sky he is still in
      > Leo. He will move in the sky out of Leo Next September, Which I
      > expect to see some improvement in the world by then.
      >
      > > Denebola (Beta Leonis)21 Virgo 37 and +14
      > tail of the lion
      > According to Ptolemy Denebola is of the nature of Saturn and Venus;
      > to Wilson and Pearce, of Saturn, Venus and Mercury; to Simmonite, of
      > Uranus; and, to Alvidas, of Mercury, Uranus and Mars. It gives swift
      > judgment, despair, regrets, public disgrace, misfortune from the
      > elements of nature, and happiness turned to anger, and makes its
      > natives noble, daring, self-controlled, generous and busy with other
      > people's affairs. [Robson*, p.160-161.]
      >
      > The 'Tail of the Lion' has a Uranian nature and it is supposed that,
      > in mundane horoscopes, major catastrophes are triggered off by it.
      > Depending on the position and aspect to other stellar bodies in a
      > personal cosmogram, either preferment or fall are credited to this
      > star. Found on the Ascendant and especially in company with Mercury,
      > a quarrelsome nature, with a liking for legal action is attributed to
      > Denebola. It could also mean that this star is the cause of very
      > exciting events. Badly placed in a map, with Mercury or Uranus,
      > mental diseases - and those mostly incurable ones - are indicated.
      > Fine aspects however, will further work connected with matters of
      > reform and progress. [Fixed Stars and Their Interpretation, Elsbeth
      > Ebertin, 1928, p.56.]
      >
      > in a birth chart.
      > With Saturn: Critical, always complaining, many enemies, loss through
      > servants and thieves, unfortunate life, domestic sorrow, wife
      > afflicted or children mentally unsound or deformed. [Robson*, p.162.]
      > Beth - which mundanely may manifest as a lot of protests and domestic
      > unrest I should think.
      >
      > Uranus - 18 Pis 59 -5 dec
      > Beth - closest fixed star I can find is Homam in Pegasus, but it is
      > at 16 Pisces so far enough away that probably dont want to apply too
      > loosly, though I think that the SAturn Uranus opposition is a very
      > apt description of Pegasus Syndrome.
      >
      > > Neptune 22 Aqu 08 -14 dec
      >
      > > Nashira (Gamma Capricorni)21 Aqu 47 -16 dec
      > in the tail of the goat, The star is considered the bringer of good
      > fortune
      >
      > Legend: During their war with the giants, the Gods were driven into
      > Egypt and pursued by Typhon. In order to escape, each was forced to
      > change his shape, and Pan, leaping into the Nile, turned the upper
      > part of his body into a goat and the lower part into a fish, a shape
      > considered by Jupiter worthy of commemoration in the heavens.
      > [Robson*, p.35.]
      >
      > According to Ptolemy it is of the nature of Saturn and Jupiter; and,
      > to Simmonite, of Saturn. It causes overcoming by evil, which is
      > turned to success, and gives danger from beasts. [Robson*, p.179.]
      >
      > This star is also related to Justice.
      >
      > > Pluto 0.52 Cap and -18 dec
      > > Sinistra (Nu Ophiuchi)
      > > Spiculum (M-18/M-20/M-21 Sagittarii)
      >
      > Beth - I think Pluto as well as sun here may refer to changing of the
      > guard in management (government, business, religion, where ever
      > management is found there will be a tearing down and building up anew
      > where it doesn't work well) my interpretation others may vary the
      > whole bow and arrow thing, makes me think launching of new things.
      > >
      > > Ceres 12 Virgo 04 +17
      >
      > > Zosma (Delta Leonis)11 Virgo 19 +20
      > on lions Rump
      > Of the nature of Saturn and Venus. It causes benefit by disgrace,
      > selfishness, egotism, immorality, meanness, melancholy, unhappiness
      > of mind and fear of poison, and gives an unreasonable, shameless and
      > egotistical nature. [Robson*, p.219.]
      >
      > Ability to prophesy. On the Euphrates the star theta (¦È Coxa),
      along
      > with this star delta (¦Ä Zosma), was the god Kua, the Oracle.
      [Fixed
      > Stars and Judicial Astrology, George Noonan, 1990, p.32.]
      > >
      > >
      > > Juno 17 Cap 41 -14 dec
      > Beth - The mother Figure connected to the knee of Sagitarius is a
      > very interesting idea, it connects mother and travel or movement,
      > possibly this is the signifier of the change and care of the auto
      > industry? it needs some parenting? both in helping it change to a
      > healthier industry but also nursing it along?
      > > Rukbat (Alpha Sagittarii)16 Cap 38 -18 dec
      > knee of Sagitarius
      >
      > >
      > >
      > > Vesta 29 Aries 39 +4 - tender of the hearth
      >
      > > Mirach (Beta Andromedae)0 tau 24 +35 dec
      > yellow star in girdle of chained woman
      > According to Ptolemy it is of the nature of Venus; and, to Alvidas,
      > of Mars and the Moon. It gives personal beauty, a brilliant mind, a
      > love of home, great devotion, beneficence, forgiveness, love,
      > overcoming by kindness, renown, and good fortune in marriage.
      > [Robson*, p.178.] (Beth - which sounds very Vesta like doesn't it?)
      >
      > Legend: Andromeda, the original "maiden in distress" is daughter of
      > Cepheus, king of Ethiopeia, and his wife Cassiopeia. Cassiopeia was
      > proud of her daughter's beauty and boasted that Andromeda was more
      > beautiful than the Sea Nymphs, the Nereids, who were daughters of
      > Poseidon (Neptune). The Nereids complained to Poseidon who sent a sea
      > monster (Cetus) to ravage the coast. With his kingdom in grave
      > danger, Cepheus consulted the oracle of Ammon in Libya for advice. He
      > learned the only way to save his kingdom was to sacrifice his
      > daughter, Andromeda, to the sea monster. Andromeda is chained to a
      > rock and left to the mercy of the monster. The hero, Perseus, riding
      > through the air on winged sandals arrives at the scene and they fall
      > in love. Perseus had a quick consultation with Cepheus and
      > Cassiopeia; it is agreed that if he rescues their daughter, he could
      > marry her. The sea monster (Cetus) arrives and Perseus kills it by
      > turning it to stone with the Medusa's Head (Algol). Perseus breaks
      > the chains that bound Andromeda to the rock and frees her. The
      > wedding follows.
      >
      > According to Ptolemy the influence of this constellation is similar
      > to that of Venus, though the legend would lead one to suppose some
      > connection with Virgo. It is said to bestow purity of thought,
      > virtue, honor and dignity upon its natives, but to cause battle with
      > chimerical (wildly fanciful, highly improbable) fears and a tendency
      > to become easily discouraged. It gives love between husband and wife
      > and reconciles adulterers. If Mars afflicts the luminaries from
      > Andromeda and especially if in an angle, it causes death by hanging,
      > decapitation, crucifixion or impalement. By the Kabalists it is
      > associated with the Hebrew letter P¨¦ and the 17th Tarot Trump, The
      > Stars. [Robson*, p.26.]
      >
      >
      > > Alrisha (Alpha Piscium)29 Aries 23 +2 dec
      > Legend: Venus and her son Cupid while sitting on the bank of the
      > Euphrates suddenly saw Typhon, the enemy of the Gods, approaching
      > them. They leapt into the river and were saved from drowning by two
      > fishes, who were afterwards placed in the heavens by Venus in
      > gratitude for their help. [Robson*, p.57.]
      >
      >
      > > Chiron 17 aqu 44 -9 dec
      > Beth - wounded healer aligned with the warrior philosophers of the
      > sea.
      >
      >
      > > Sualocin (Alpha Delphini) 17 Aqu 23 +16 dec
      >
      > Legend: When Amphitrite, who was sought as a wife by Neptune, hid
      > herself, the God sent messengers to find her. The dolphin was the
      > first to succeed and persuaded her to consent to the marriage, for
      > which service Neptune placed him in the heavens. According to other
      > accounts it is one of the pirates who were changed into dolphins by
      > Bacchus on his voyage to Ariadne. [Robson*, p.42.]
      >
      > Pholus and Kuma (draco) are aligned, Beth - both represent someone
      > who was assigned the task of protecting something.
      >
      > Varuna aligned with Castor
      >
      > Varuna - Hindu God of water/having dominion over the oceans.
      > Castor is the Mortal Twin - (castor sometimes called hercules)
      >
      > "The arms to shoulders joined are accounted to the Twins" [Manilius,
      > p.119]
      >
      > From the Twins come less laborious callings and a more agreeable way
      > of life, provided by varied song and voices of harmonious tone,
      > slender pipes, the melodies inborn in strings and the words fitted
      > thereto: those so endowed find even work a pleasure. They would
      > banish the arms of war, the trumpet's call, and the gloom of old age:
      > theirs is a life of ease and unfading youth spent in the arms of
      > love. They also discover paths to the skies, complete a survey of the
      > heavens with numbers and measurements, and outstrip the flight of the
      > stars: nature yields to their genius, which it serves in all things.
      > So many are the accomplishments of which the Twins are fruitful.
      > [Manilius, Astronomica, 1st century AD. p.281.]
      >
      > Both Varuna and Castor are linked to Jupiter so may give a jupiter
      > influence here.
      >
      > >
      > >
      > > Uranus, Eris and Pallas don't seem to be aligned with any of the
      > stars
      > > Robson, Ebertin, Rigor or Bernadette wrote about.
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > > Mark A. Holmes
      > >
      >
      > well that is the gist of the themes I've collected thus far,
      >
      > MissB
      >
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