Re: Ravers, lasers and eye problem stars
Mark A. Holmes
--- In firstname.lastname@example.org, "Diana K Rosenberg"
> Barbars Nowak of the Conjunction List sent this - I have her
> permission to send it on (I have included my reply):
> 2. Ravers lose vision at laser light show
> Posted by: "barbara nowak" nowak890-mail@...
> Date: Thu Jul 17, 2008 10:17 am ((PDT))
> i found this article interesting, and thought if there was someone
> interested in studying eyesight/sudden blindness, etc, this might be anvision in
> interesting study.
> Barbara sent::
> Dozens of partygoers in Russia suffered eye damage, officials said.
> "They all have retinal burns, scarring is visible on them. Loss of
> individual cases is as high as 80 percent, and regaining it is alreadyfor the
> impossible," Kommersant quoted a treating ophthalmologist as saying.
> Attendees said heavy rains forced organizers to erect massive tents
> all-night dance party, and lasers that normally illuminate upwardsinto the
> sky were instead partially refracted into the ravers' eyes."<http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/25675477/?GT1=43001>http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id
> and this is the link:
> /25675477/?GT1=43001unreachable and
> what totally convinced me to send it here was this sentence:
> "Cosmic Connection, promoters of the Aquamarine rave, were
> did not list contact numbers on their Web site."]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]
> ...cosmic connection?? :)
> barbara nowak, woman who walks with RAMs
> DKR reply:
> Thank you for sending this!
> Years ago as I was starting to research fixed stars I made a file in
> format to keep track of what stars might be associated withblindness and/or
> eye problems, (there are several that traditionally are, but I wanted toevent (July
> check out the whole thing, thoroughly)
> Eyeballing the ephemeris for planet positions on the date of the
> 5, '08) I was puzzled, because I didn't see any positions thatmatched the
> highest-scoring stars I had on my list; but I noticed that theMars-Saturn
> cnj, which wasn't yet complete, was nevertheless closing a square to theat 4-6
> highest-scoring blindness stars of all - those of the Hyades Cluster
> Gemini. Now, I don't usually consider aspects to stars because Iwant to
> keep everything simple and direct, and that might confuse and muddle theconjunctions)
> messages, but there are, indeed, times when aspects (besides
> to the stars work, and this is a beautiful example!Kirsach
> The day of the Festival was July 5 (no time given for the start), at
> (Kirzac), which Solar Fire has at 56N09, 38E52;Kirsac
> Mars that day was 2 - 2.5 Virg, Saturn 4.52-4.58 Virgo. Using the
> coordinates, I ran a chart for the exact Mars-Saturn cnj that took placetime the
> just 5 days later, July 10, 2008, 6:11 PM GMT (this was about the
> Moscow health officials realized that there was a rash of major eyeGemini!
> problems resulting from the laser show).
> The conjunction was at 5 Virgo 26. The Hyades Cluster (which is in the
> Bull's muzzle, very close to the ecliptic), runs from about 4 to 6
> To give you an idea of how prominent the Hyades are in relation tothe other
> stars on the list, here are the nearby scores (epoch 2000):whole area
> Degree span number of examples of eye problems or
> 26 Taurus: 5 (Algol)
> 27.5-28.5 Taurus: 9
> 29 Taurus-0 Gemini 8 (Pleiades Cluster)
> 1 - 2 Gemini 12
> 3 - 4.5 Gemini 6 (Hyades Cluster)
> 4.8-5.8 Gemini 17 (Hyades Cluster)
> 9 - 10 Gemini 9 (Aldebaran, the Bull's South Eye)
> You can see that there's a huge jump at the Hyades Cluster -- the
> from 25 Taurus to 10 Gemini ishighest-scoring of
> definitely an "eye danger" area, but the Hyades are the
> all the fixed star eye problem areas.most
> Now, here's an extremely interesting item: the Hyades have, from the
> ancient times and in all cultures, have been associated withtorrential rain
> - and it was rain that forced the festival indoors (i.e. intotents), and it
> was this that caused the laser-eye problems situation!associated
> This is from my book (out very soon)
> In both eastern and western sky-lore, the Hyades have always been
> with storms and torrential rains: from at least 1,100 BCE Chineseknew this
> cluster as Yu-Shi, Ruler of Rain, and the Hsiu Py (called "Mouth of the8 CE),
> Sky") presaged torrential downpours. Ovid's: Fasti IV, 2nd Nones (ca
> has "the next day calls up the Hyades...the earth is soaked withheavy rain"
> and Pliny the Elder (23-79 CE) called the Hyades "violent andout, but
> troublesome...causing storms and tempests raging on both land and sea:"
> Confucius set out on a walk with a group of his
> disciples and instructed them to take their umbrellas. After a time it
> rained heavily; a disciple said "there were no clouds when we set
> you told us to take umbrellas - how did you know it was going to rain?"and it
> Confucius replied "last night the Moon was in the constellation Py,
> is written in the Shih-ching, 'When the Moon is in Py, there will beearliest
> heavy rain' - thus I was certain that it would" - Wuma Shi (Zi-Qi),
> Confucian Analects
> (Confucius lived in the 6th-century BCE, so this must be one of the
> extant astrological predictions!)all! And
> So while Mars and Saturn were not at "eye stars" they were in an area of
> multiple black holes, and squared the highest-scoring eye stars of
> they were/are in Virgo, the sign of illness-health.mins for
> Love, Diana
> PPS: I can't attach files to the group, but if anyone wants my blindness
> study, contact me privately and I'll send it.
> The positions are for 1980, but you can add 17 mins for 2000, or 24
> the present.
> Website: http://ye-stars.com
- Interestingly, the following is what Starlight gives for Kirzac that day -
HELIACAL RISING STAR
Aldebaran - Rising 91 mins 38 secs before Sunrise
HELIACAL RISING STAR
Fomalhaut - Rising 93 mins 42 secs before Sunrise
HELIACAL SETTING STAR
Arcturus - Setting 02 mins 32 secs before Sunrise.