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  • Mark Andrew Holmes
    ... She does. ... I don t know this woman and the story is not rich in biographical details on her, but it seems to me her job as an ombudsman for indigenous
    Message 1 of 4 , May 25, 2005
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      --- Mark Andrew Holmes <mahtezcatpoc@...> wrote:

      >
      > --- "Diana K. Rosenberg" <ye-stars@...>
      > wrote:
      >
      > > I don't usually work with the modern figures,
      > > because they
      > > were "made-up" centuries, even millennia, after
      > the
      > > ancient
      > > ones, but in the case of Indus, I made an
      > exception.
      > >
      > > Here's part of what I wrote about the
      > constellation:
      > >
      > > There are no listings for "Indian" in books on
      > > symbolism,
      > > but it is probable that they are thought of as
      > > living in an
      > > instinctual and primal way, close to nature and
      > > simplicity,
      > > as opposed to the stress and artificiality of
      > modern
      > > technological existence. At the time of the
      > > constellation's
      > > creation, the idea of "The Noble Savage" was
      > popular
      > > in
      > > Europe; it idealized the natives newly discovered
      > in
      > > the
      > > Americas and the Pacific islands, but at the same
      > > time
      > > looked down upon them as childlike and
      > > unsophisticated.
      > > Research has shown that this figure does seem to
      > > relate to
      > > indigenous people and their folklore
      > >
      > > Venus on the chart of the woman in your article is
      > > at 29
      > > Capricorn, the longitude of Alpha Indi; part of my
      > > interpretation here is:
      > >
      > > O prairie mother, I am one of your boys,
      > > I have loved the prairie as a man with
      > > a heart shot full of pain over love.
      > > -Carl Sandburg (Mercury here)
      > >
      > > Those born here carry a deep longing for the
      > source:
      > > they
      > > long to see �through the looking-glass� of nature
      > > and the
      > > universe, beyond the present, outside the world of
      > > appearances and beneath the surface of every
      > > manifestation,
      > > leading some into physics, mathematics, cosmology
      > > and the
      > > occult (their �prairie� is the eternal sky, and
      > > time). Even
      > > though Indus is a �modern� sky figure formed at
      > the
      > > end of
      > > the 16th century, it serves as an example of a
      > > modern
      > > constellation �fitting� its place in the sky, for
      > > here are
      > > people in love with the land, its native people,
      > > folk tales
      > > and traditions, longing for a natural or �primal�
      > > way of
      > > life (many here seem to have an ability to tap
      > into
      > > racial
      > > and cultural consciousness). Collectors of
      > folklore
      > > and
      > > natural storytellers themselves, with wry sense of
      > > humor,
      > > they enjoy entertaining people and need to be in
      > the
      > > midst
      > > of intellectual and cultural activities of their
      > > times.
      > >
      > > Some of the people here:
      > >
      > > Carl Sandburg (Mercury here), writer and poet and
      > > collector of American folklore; this was the Sun
      > of
      > > scholar
      > > Vasily Radlov, who studied the culture,
      > linguistics
      > > and
      > > ancient texts of the Turkic peoples of S Siberia
      > and
      > > Central
      > > Asia, Sun and MC of anthropologist Carlos
      > Castaneda.
      > > Richard
      > > Hinckley Allen, author of �Star Names, Their Lore
      > > and
      > > Meaning,� had the Moon here; this was Mercury of
      > > author,
      > > essayist and folklorist S Baring-Gould, Saturn of
      > > �stern-faced, crotchety, reclusive� Jacob Grimm,
      > > historical
      > > linguist, philologist, with his brother a
      > collector
      > > of folk
      > > songs and fairy tales, which led to �the birth of
      > > the
      > > science of folklore,� and of author, translator
      > and
      > > reinterpreter of Icelandic skaldic sagas and
      > > folklore
      > > Halldor Laxness and Saturn of Roman poet and
      > > mythologist
      > > Ovid, Uranus of Hungarian poet Janos Vajda, "the
      > > lonely, sad
      > > poet of memories and forest tableaus"

      > I seem to remember that Anser (Alpha Vulpeculae) is
      > in
      > this area (the final and penultimate degrees of
      > Capricorn) as well; I think I remember also that I
      > have Anser aligned with my Midheaven within 1 00'. I
      > don't know if this woman has her Venus aligned with
      > Anser.

      She does.


      >
      > For those who don't know: Vulpecula the Fox, a small
      > modern constellation just south of Cygnus, was
      > originally Vulpecula et Anser, the Fox and Goose,
      > and
      > is still depicted on pictorial star maps as a fox
      > with
      > a goose in its mouth. Alpha Vulpeculae marks the
      > goose, hence the name Anser (Latin for goose).


      I don't know this woman and the story is not rich in
      biographical details on her, but it seems to me her
      job as an ombudsman for indigenous people entails
      being what some might see as obnoxious--that is,
      pushing for people against resistance. Right?


      Mark A. Holmes



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