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  • msbhavens1
    okay born 4/4/79 I know of anther person 4/4/51 who died of an overdose and heart condition in 97, ledger also was havinng a saturn return, BUT here is my
    Message 1 of 18 , Jan 23, 2008
      okay born 4/4/79 I know of anther person 4/4/51 who died of an
      overdose and heart condition in 97, ledger also was havinng a saturn
      return, BUT here is my question, is there something about sun
      alignment on 4/4 births that gives a suseptibility to drug overdose? I
      know one other person with this Birthday who is an anti-drug person,
      she refuses to take most any drug and few vitamins. which I'm thinking
      for a 4/4person might just be why shes' still alive at 71!

      thoughts?

      MissB
    • Outi
      MissB, I cannot answer that, but The New York times writes about in detail: http://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/01/22/actor-heath-ledger-is-found-dead/
      Message 2 of 18 , Jan 23, 2008
        MissB,

        I cannot answer that, but The New York times writes about in detail:

        http://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/01/22/actor-heath-ledger-is-found-dead/

        http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/23/movies/23ledger.html?_r=1&hp&oref=slogin

        Outi

        --- In thefixedstars@yahoogroups.com, "msbhavens1" <msbhavens1@...> wrote:
        >
        > okay born 4/4/79 I know of anther person 4/4/51 who died of an
        > overdose and heart condition in 97, ledger also was havinng a saturn
        > return, BUT here is my question, is there something about sun
        > alignment on 4/4 births that gives a suseptibility to drug overdose? I
        > know one other person with this Birthday who is an anti-drug person,
        > she refuses to take most any drug and few vitamins. which I'm thinking
        > for a 4/4person might just be why shes' still alive at 71!
        >
        > thoughts?
        >
        > MissB
        >
      • msbhavens1
        while they are indeed writing a lot about that One individual, they do NOT appear to be writing anything about what I have asked, but thanks, MissB ...
        Message 3 of 18 , Jan 23, 2008
          while they are indeed writing a lot about that One individual, they
          do NOT appear to be writing anything about what I have asked, but
          thanks,

          MissB

          --- In thefixedstars@yahoogroups.com, "Outi" <scoppias@...> wrote:
          >
          > MissB,
          >
          > I cannot answer that, but The New York times writes about in
          detail:
          >
          > http://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/01/22/actor-heath-ledger-is-
          found-dead/
          >
          > http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/23/movies/23ledger.html?
          _r=1&hp&oref=slogin
          >
          > Outi
          >
          > --- In thefixedstars@yahoogroups.com, "msbhavens1" <msbhavens1@>
          wrote:
          > >
          > > okay born 4/4/79 I know of anther person 4/4/51 who died of an
          > > overdose and heart condition in 97, ledger also was havinng a
          saturn
          > > return, BUT here is my question, is there something about sun
          > > alignment on 4/4 births that gives a suseptibility to drug
          overdose? I
          > > know one other person with this Birthday who is an anti-drug
          person,
          > > she refuses to take most any drug and few vitamins. which I'm
          thinking
          > > for a 4/4person might just be why shes' still alive at 71!
          > >
          > > thoughts?
          > >
          > > MissB
          > >
          >
        • Mark Andrew Holmes
          I ll have his star alignments in a while. Mark A. Holmes ... http://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/01/22/actor-heath-ledger-is-found-dead/ ...
          Message 4 of 18 , Jan 23, 2008
            I'll have his star alignments in a while.


            Mark A. Holmes


            --- Outi <scoppias@...> wrote:

            > MissB,
            >
            > I cannot answer that, but The New York times writes
            > about in detail:
            >
            >
            http://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/01/22/actor-heath-ledger-is-found-dead/
            >
            >
            http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/23/movies/23ledger.html?_r=1&hp&oref=slogin
            >
            > Outi
            >
            > --- In thefixedstars@yahoogroups.com, "msbhavens1"
            > <msbhavens1@...> wrote:
            > >
            > > okay born 4/4/79 I know of anther person 4/4/51
            > who died of an
            > > overdose and heart condition in 97, ledger also
            > was havinng a saturn
            > > return, BUT here is my question, is there
            > something about sun
            > > alignment on 4/4 births that gives a suseptibility
            > to drug overdose? I
            > > know one other person with this Birthday who is an
            > anti-drug person,
            > > she refuses to take most any drug and few
            > vitamins. which I'm thinking
            > > for a 4/4person might just be why shes' still
            > alive at 71!
            > >
            > > thoughts?
            > >
            > > MissB
            > >
            >
            >
            >



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          • GM
            Hello group, Here is a great site, one can find any birthdays of any famous people http://www.famousbirthdays.com Does anybody have the hour of his birth ??
            Message 5 of 18 , Jan 23, 2008
              Hello group,
              Here is a great site, one can find any birthdays of any famous people

              http://www.famousbirthdays.com

              Does anybody have the hour of his birth ??

              Casting a solar map, he had more than a Saturn return!
              Tr.Mars squared Natal Mercury, and Mars;
              Tr. Saturn opposition to Natanl Venus
              Tr. Venus and Pluto sqaring Natal Mars and Mercury
              Tr.Neptune and Mercury squaring Radical Uranus.

              Poor guy !





              --- In thefixedstars@yahoogroups.com, Mark Andrew Holmes
              <mahtezcatpoc@...> wrote:
              >
              > I'll have his star alignments in a while.
              >
              >
              > Mark A. Holmes
              >
              >
              > --- Outi <scoppias@...> wrote:
              >
              > > MissB,
              > >
              > > I cannot answer that, but The New York times writes
              > > about in detail:
              > >
              > >
              > http://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/01/22/actor-heath-ledger-is-
              found-dead/
              > >
              > >
              > http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/23/movies/23ledger.html?
              _r=1&hp&oref=slogin
              > >
              > > Outi
              > >
              > > --- In thefixedstars@yahoogroups.com, "msbhavens1"
              > > <msbhavens1@> wrote:
              > > >
              > > > okay born 4/4/79 I know of anther person 4/4/51
              > > who died of an
              > > > overdose and heart condition in 97, ledger also
              > > was havinng a saturn
              > > > return, BUT here is my question, is there
              > > something about sun
              > > > alignment on 4/4 births that gives a suseptibility
              > > to drug overdose? I
              > > > know one other person with this Birthday who is an
              > > anti-drug person,
              > > > she refuses to take most any drug and few
              > > vitamins. which I'm thinking
              > > > for a 4/4person might just be why shes' still
              > > alive at 71!
              > > >
              > > > thoughts?
              > > >
              > > > MissB
              > > >
              > >
              > >
              > >
              >
              >
              >
              >
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            • msbhavens1
              thanks! - In thefixedstars@yahoogroups.com, Mark Andrew Holmes ... found-dead/ ... _r=1&hp&oref=slogin ...
              Message 6 of 18 , Jan 23, 2008
                thanks!

                - In thefixedstars@yahoogroups.com, Mark Andrew Holmes
                <mahtezcatpoc@...> wrote:
                >
                > I'll have his star alignments in a while.
                >
                >
                > Mark A. Holmes
                >
                >
                > --- Outi <scoppias@...> wrote:
                >
                > > MissB,
                > >
                > > I cannot answer that, but The New York times writes
                > > about in detail:
                > >
                > >
                > http://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/01/22/actor-heath-ledger-is-
                found-dead/
                > >
                > >
                > http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/23/movies/23ledger.html?
                _r=1&hp&oref=slogin
                > >
                > > Outi
                > >
                > > --- In thefixedstars@yahoogroups.com, "msbhavens1"
                > > <msbhavens1@> wrote:
                > > >
                > > > okay born 4/4/79 I know of anther person 4/4/51
                > > who died of an
                > > > overdose and heart condition in 97, ledger also
                > > was havinng a saturn
                > > > return, BUT here is my question, is there
                > > something about sun
                > > > alignment on 4/4 births that gives a suseptibility
                > > to drug overdose? I
                > > > know one other person with this Birthday who is an
                > > anti-drug person,
                > > > she refuses to take most any drug and few
                > > vitamins. which I'm thinking
                > > > for a 4/4person might just be why shes' still
                > > alive at 71!
                > > >
                > > > thoughts?
                > > >
                > > > MissB
                > > >
                > >
                > >
                > >
                >
                >
                >
                >
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              • Mark Andrew Holmes
                ... Heath Ledger April 4, 1979 Perth, Western Australia, Australia using noon AWST Sun, Eris (Ledger s natal Eris is at 14 Aries 16) Alpheratz (Alpha
                Message 7 of 18 , Jan 23, 2008
                  --- msbhavens1 <msbhavens1@...> wrote:

                  >
                  > thanks!
                  >
                  > - In thefixedstars@yahoogroups.com, Mark Andrew
                  > Holmes
                  > <mahtezcatpoc@...> wrote:
                  > >
                  > > I'll have his star alignments in a while.


                  Heath Ledger
                  April 4, 1979
                  Perth, Western Australia, Australia


                  using noon AWST


                  Sun, Eris
                  (Ledger's natal Eris is at 14 Aries 16)


                  Alpheratz (Alpha Andromedae)




                  Saturn



                  Thuban (Alpha Draconis)
                  Alioth (Epsilon Ursae Majoris)



                  Pluto


                  Seginus (Gamma Bootis)




                  Pallas


                  Nashira (Gamma Capricorni)
                  Castra (Epsilon Capricorni)



                  Juno



                  Algenib (Gamma Pegasi)



                  Chiron



                  Hamal (Alpha Arietis)
                  Schedir (Alpha Cassiopeiae)



                  Mark A. Holmes


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                • msbhavens1
                  the Saturn return was the thing that struck me the most I must say. but with a trine to TJupiter? hmmm well? should be interesting to see results, MissB ...
                  Message 8 of 18 , Jan 24, 2008
                    the Saturn return was the thing that struck me the most I must say.
                    but with a trine to TJupiter? hmmm well? should be interesting to
                    see results, MissB

                    --- In thefixedstars@yahoogroups.com, Mark Andrew Holmes
                    <mahtezcatpoc@...> wrote:
                    >
                    >
                    > --- msbhavens1 <msbhavens1@...> wrote:
                    >
                    > >
                    > > thanks!
                    > >
                    > > - In thefixedstars@yahoogroups.com, Mark Andrew
                    > > Holmes
                    > > <mahtezcatpoc@> wrote:
                    > > >
                    > > > I'll have his star alignments in a while.
                    >
                    >
                    > Heath Ledger
                    > April 4, 1979
                    > Perth, Western Australia, Australia
                    >
                    >
                    > using noon AWST
                    >
                    >
                    > Sun, Eris
                    > (Ledger's natal Eris is at 14 Aries 16)
                    >
                    >
                    > Alpheratz (Alpha Andromedae)
                    >
                    >
                    >
                    >
                    > Saturn
                    >
                    >
                    >
                    > Thuban (Alpha Draconis)
                    > Alioth (Epsilon Ursae Majoris)
                    >
                    >
                    >
                    > Pluto
                    >
                    >
                    > Seginus (Gamma Bootis)
                    >
                    >
                    >
                    >
                    > Pallas
                    >
                    >
                    > Nashira (Gamma Capricorni)
                    > Castra (Epsilon Capricorni)
                    >
                    >
                    >
                    > Juno
                    >
                    >
                    >
                    > Algenib (Gamma Pegasi)
                    >
                    >
                    >
                    > Chiron
                    >
                    >
                    >
                    > Hamal (Alpha Arietis)
                    > Schedir (Alpha Cassiopeiae)
                    >
                    >
                    >
                    > Mark A. Holmes
                    >
                    >
                    >
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                  • Mark Andrew Holmes
                    ... What do you think about the *star alignments*? Mark A. Holmes ... http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ ...
                    Message 9 of 18 , Jan 24, 2008
                      --- msbhavens1 <msbhavens1@...> wrote:

                      >
                      > the Saturn return was the thing that struck me the
                      > most I must say.
                      > but with a trine to TJupiter? hmmm well? should be
                      > interesting to
                      > see results, MissB


                      What do you think about the *star alignments*?

                      Mark A. Holmes



                      >
                      > --- In thefixedstars@yahoogroups.com, Mark Andrew
                      > Holmes
                      > <mahtezcatpoc@...> wrote:
                      > >
                      > >
                      > > --- msbhavens1 <msbhavens1@...> wrote:
                      > >
                      > > >
                      > > > thanks!
                      > > >
                      > > > - In thefixedstars@yahoogroups.com, Mark Andrew
                      > > > Holmes
                      > > > <mahtezcatpoc@> wrote:
                      > > > >
                      > > > > I'll have his star alignments in a while.
                      > >
                      > >
                      > > Heath Ledger
                      > > April 4, 1979
                      > > Perth, Western Australia, Australia
                      > >
                      > >
                      > > using noon AWST
                      > >
                      > >
                      > > Sun, Eris
                      > > (Ledger's natal Eris is at 14 Aries 16)
                      > >
                      > >
                      > > Alpheratz (Alpha Andromedae)
                      > >
                      > >
                      > >
                      > >
                      > > Saturn
                      > >
                      > >
                      > >
                      > > Thuban (Alpha Draconis)
                      > > Alioth (Epsilon Ursae Majoris)
                      > >
                      > >
                      > >
                      > > Pluto
                      > >
                      > >
                      > > Seginus (Gamma Bootis)
                      > >
                      > >
                      > >
                      > >
                      > > Pallas
                      > >
                      > >
                      > > Nashira (Gamma Capricorni)
                      > > Castra (Epsilon Capricorni)
                      > >
                      > >
                      > >
                      > > Juno
                      > >
                      > >
                      > >
                      > > Algenib (Gamma Pegasi)
                      > >
                      > >
                      > >
                      > > Chiron
                      > >
                      > >
                      > >
                      > > Hamal (Alpha Arietis)
                      > > Schedir (Alpha Cassiopeiae)
                      > >
                      > >
                      > >
                      > > Mark A. Holmes
                      > >
                      > >
                      > >
                      >
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                    • msbhavens1
                      my knowledge of Thuban says its a treasure star, so thought it an odd alignment with SAturn unless possibly means he hordes? and I thought CAstra and odd one
                      Message 10 of 18 , Jan 24, 2008
                        my knowledge of Thuban says its a treasure star, so thought it an
                        odd alignment with SAturn unless possibly means he hordes? and I
                        thought CAstra and odd one to come up in his chart,

                        MissB

                        --- In thefixedstars@yahoogroups.com, Mark Andrew Holmes
                        <mahtezcatpoc@...> wrote:
                        >
                        >
                        > --- msbhavens1 <msbhavens1@...> wrote:
                        >
                        > >
                        > > the Saturn return was the thing that struck me the
                        > > most I must say.
                        > > but with a trine to TJupiter? hmmm well? should be
                        > > interesting to
                        > > see results, MissB
                        >
                        >
                        > What do you think about the *star alignments*?
                        >
                        > Mark A. Holmes
                        >
                        >
                        >
                        > >
                        > > --- In thefixedstars@yahoogroups.com, Mark Andrew
                        > > Holmes
                        > > <mahtezcatpoc@> wrote:
                        > > >
                        > > >
                        > > > --- msbhavens1 <msbhavens1@> wrote:
                        > > >
                        > > > >
                        > > > > thanks!
                        > > > >
                        > > > > - In thefixedstars@yahoogroups.com, Mark Andrew
                        > > > > Holmes
                        > > > > <mahtezcatpoc@> wrote:
                        > > > > >
                        > > > > > I'll have his star alignments in a while.
                        > > >
                        > > >
                        > > > Heath Ledger
                        > > > April 4, 1979
                        > > > Perth, Western Australia, Australia
                        > > >
                        > > >
                        > > > using noon AWST
                        > > >
                        > > >
                        > > > Sun, Eris
                        > > > (Ledger's natal Eris is at 14 Aries 16)
                        > > >
                        > > >
                        > > > Alpheratz (Alpha Andromedae)
                        > > >
                        > > >
                        > > >
                        > > >
                        > > > Saturn
                        > > >
                        > > >
                        > > >
                        > > > Thuban (Alpha Draconis)
                        > > > Alioth (Epsilon Ursae Majoris)
                        > > >
                        > > >
                        > > >
                        > > > Pluto
                        > > >
                        > > >
                        > > > Seginus (Gamma Bootis)
                        > > >
                        > > >
                        > > >
                        > > >
                        > > > Pallas
                        > > >
                        > > >
                        > > > Nashira (Gamma Capricorni)
                        > > > Castra (Epsilon Capricorni)
                        > > >
                        > > >
                        > > >
                        > > > Juno
                        > > >
                        > > >
                        > > >
                        > > > Algenib (Gamma Pegasi)
                        > > >
                        > > >
                        > > >
                        > > > Chiron
                        > > >
                        > > >
                        > > >
                        > > > Hamal (Alpha Arietis)
                        > > > Schedir (Alpha Cassiopeiae)
                        > > >
                        > > >
                        > > >
                        > > > Mark A. Holmes
                        > > >
                        > > >
                        > > >
                        > >
                        >
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                      • Mark Andrew Holmes
                        ... It s also aligned with Alioth. He built up a treasure (Thuban) and then boom, he was gone (Alioth). and I ... Malevolence, destructiveness and an
                        Message 11 of 18 , Jan 24, 2008
                          --- msbhavens1 <msbhavens1@...> wrote:

                          >
                          > my knowledge of Thuban says its a treasure star, so
                          > thought it an
                          > odd alignment with SAturn unless possibly means he
                          > hordes?


                          It's also aligned with Alioth. He built up a treasure
                          (Thuban) and then boom, he was gone (Alioth).


                          and I
                          > thought CAstra and odd one to come up in his chart,
                          >
                          > MissB


                          "Malevolence, destructiveness and an uncontrollable
                          temper," according to Robson. I haven't followed his
                          life closely, but I haven't heard of him getting into
                          any fights. Unless this anger turned inward and took
                          the form of depression. Or he was with some sort of
                          bad company: Pallas is also aligned with Nashira, Juno
                          with Algenib and Pluto with Seginus.


                          Mark A. Holmes



                          >
                          > --- In thefixedstars@yahoogroups.com, Mark Andrew
                          > Holmes
                          > <mahtezcatpoc@...> wrote:
                          > >
                          > >
                          > > --- msbhavens1 <msbhavens1@...> wrote:
                          > >
                          > > >
                          > > > the Saturn return was the thing that struck me
                          > the
                          > > > most I must say.
                          > > > but with a trine to TJupiter? hmmm well? should
                          > be
                          > > > interesting to
                          > > > see results, MissB
                          > >
                          > >
                          > > What do you think about the *star alignments*?
                          > >
                          > > Mark A. Holmes
                          > >
                          > >
                          > >
                          > > >
                          > > > --- In thefixedstars@yahoogroups.com, Mark
                          > Andrew
                          > > > Holmes
                          > > > <mahtezcatpoc@> wrote:
                          > > > >
                          > > > >
                          > > > > --- msbhavens1 <msbhavens1@> wrote:
                          > > > >
                          > > > > >
                          > > > > > thanks!
                          > > > > >
                          > > > > > - In thefixedstars@yahoogroups.com, Mark
                          > Andrew
                          > > > > > Holmes
                          > > > > > <mahtezcatpoc@> wrote:
                          > > > > > >
                          > > > > > > I'll have his star alignments in a while.
                          > > > >
                          > > > >
                          > > > > Heath Ledger
                          > > > > April 4, 1979
                          > > > > Perth, Western Australia, Australia
                          > > > >
                          > > > >
                          > > > > using noon AWST
                          > > > >
                          > > > >
                          > > > > Sun, Eris
                          > > > > (Ledger's natal Eris is at 14 Aries 16)
                          > > > >
                          > > > >
                          > > > > Alpheratz (Alpha Andromedae)
                          > > > >
                          > > > >
                          > > > >
                          > > > >
                          > > > > Saturn
                          > > > >
                          > > > >
                          > > > >
                          > > > > Thuban (Alpha Draconis)
                          > > > > Alioth (Epsilon Ursae Majoris)
                          > > > >
                          > > > >
                          > > > >
                          > > > > Pluto
                          > > > >
                          > > > >
                          > > > > Seginus (Gamma Bootis)
                          > > > >
                          > > > >
                          > > > >
                          > > > >
                          > > > > Pallas
                          > > > >
                          > > > >
                          > > > > Nashira (Gamma Capricorni)
                          > > > > Castra (Epsilon Capricorni)
                          > > > >
                          > > > >
                          > > > >
                          > > > > Juno
                          > > > >
                          > > > >
                          > > > >
                          > > > > Algenib (Gamma Pegasi)
                          > > > >
                          > > > >
                          > > > >
                          > > > > Chiron
                          > > > >
                          > > > >
                          > > > >
                          > > > > Hamal (Alpha Arietis)
                          > > > > Schedir (Alpha Cassiopeiae)
                          > > > >
                          > > > >
                          > > > >
                          > > > > Mark A. Holmes
                          > > > >
                          > > > >
                          > > > >
                          > > >
                          > >
                          >
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                        • msbhavens1
                          considering my PLuto is there, .... sheesh! MissB ... _____________________________________________________________________ ...
                          Message 12 of 18 , Jan 25, 2008
                            considering my PLuto is there, .... sheesh! MissB


                            --- In thefixedstars@yahoogroups.com, Mark Andrew Holmes
                            <mahtezcatpoc@...> wrote:
                            >
                            >
                            > --- msbhavens1 <msbhavens1@...> wrote:
                            >
                            > >
                            > > my knowledge of Thuban says its a treasure star, so
                            > > thought it an
                            > > odd alignment with SAturn unless possibly means he
                            > > hordes?
                            >
                            >
                            > It's also aligned with Alioth. He built up a treasure
                            > (Thuban) and then boom, he was gone (Alioth).
                            >
                            >
                            > and I
                            > > thought CAstra and odd one to come up in his chart,
                            > >
                            > > MissB
                            >
                            >
                            > "Malevolence, destructiveness and an uncontrollable
                            > temper," according to Robson. I haven't followed his
                            > life closely, but I haven't heard of him getting into
                            > any fights. Unless this anger turned inward and took
                            > the form of depression. Or he was with some sort of
                            > bad company: Pallas is also aligned with Nashira, Juno
                            > with Algenib and Pluto with Seginus.
                            >
                            >
                            > Mark A. Holmes
                            >
                            >
                            >
                            > >
                            > > --- In thefixedstars@yahoogroups.com, Mark Andrew
                            > > Holmes
                            > > <mahtezcatpoc@> wrote:
                            > > >
                            > > >
                            > > > --- msbhavens1 <msbhavens1@> wrote:
                            > > >
                            > > > >
                            > > > > the Saturn return was the thing that struck me
                            > > the
                            > > > > most I must say.
                            > > > > but with a trine to TJupiter? hmmm well? should
                            > > be
                            > > > > interesting to
                            > > > > see results, MissB
                            > > >
                            > > >
                            > > > What do you think about the *star alignments*?
                            > > >
                            > > > Mark A. Holmes
                            > > >
                            > > >
                            > > >
                            > > > >
                            > > > > --- In thefixedstars@yahoogroups.com, Mark
                            > > Andrew
                            > > > > Holmes
                            > > > > <mahtezcatpoc@> wrote:
                            > > > > >
                            > > > > >
                            > > > > > --- msbhavens1 <msbhavens1@> wrote:
                            > > > > >
                            > > > > > >
                            > > > > > > thanks!
                            > > > > > >
                            > > > > > > - In thefixedstars@yahoogroups.com, Mark
                            > > Andrew
                            > > > > > > Holmes
                            > > > > > > <mahtezcatpoc@> wrote:
                            > > > > > > >
                            > > > > > > > I'll have his star alignments in a while.
                            > > > > >
                            > > > > >
                            > > > > > Heath Ledger
                            > > > > > April 4, 1979
                            > > > > > Perth, Western Australia, Australia
                            > > > > >
                            > > > > >
                            > > > > > using noon AWST
                            > > > > >
                            > > > > >
                            > > > > > Sun, Eris
                            > > > > > (Ledger's natal Eris is at 14 Aries 16)
                            > > > > >
                            > > > > >
                            > > > > > Alpheratz (Alpha Andromedae)
                            > > > > >
                            > > > > >
                            > > > > >
                            > > > > >
                            > > > > > Saturn
                            > > > > >
                            > > > > >
                            > > > > >
                            > > > > > Thuban (Alpha Draconis)
                            > > > > > Alioth (Epsilon Ursae Majoris)
                            > > > > >
                            > > > > >
                            > > > > >
                            > > > > > Pluto
                            > > > > >
                            > > > > >
                            > > > > > Seginus (Gamma Bootis)
                            > > > > >
                            > > > > >
                            > > > > >
                            > > > > >
                            > > > > > Pallas
                            > > > > >
                            > > > > >
                            > > > > > Nashira (Gamma Capricorni)
                            > > > > > Castra (Epsilon Capricorni)
                            > > > > >
                            > > > > >
                            > > > > >
                            > > > > > Juno
                            > > > > >
                            > > > > >
                            > > > > >
                            > > > > > Algenib (Gamma Pegasi)
                            > > > > >
                            > > > > >
                            > > > > >
                            > > > > > Chiron
                            > > > > >
                            > > > > >
                            > > > > >
                            > > > > > Hamal (Alpha Arietis)
                            > > > > > Schedir (Alpha Cassiopeiae)
                            > > > > >
                            > > > > >
                            > > > > >
                            > > > > > Mark A. Holmes
                            > > > > >
                            > > > > >
                            > > > > >
                            > > > >
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                          • mahtezcatpoc
                            ... Aligned with both Thuban and Alioth... Mark A. Holmes
                            Message 13 of 18 , Jan 26, 2008
                              --- In thefixedstars@yahoogroups.com, "msbhavens1" <msbhavens1@...> wrote:
                              >
                              > considering my PLuto is there, .... sheesh! MissB


                              Aligned with both Thuban and Alioth...


                              Mark A. Holmes

                              >
                              >
                              > --- In thefixedstars@yahoogroups.com, Mark Andrew Holmes
                              > <mahtezcatpoc@> wrote:
                              > >
                              > >
                              > > --- msbhavens1 <msbhavens1@> wrote:
                              > >
                              > > >
                              > > > my knowledge of Thuban says its a treasure star, so
                              > > > thought it an
                              > > > odd alignment with SAturn unless possibly means he
                              > > > hordes?
                              > >
                              > >
                              > > It's also aligned with Alioth. He built up a treasure
                              > > (Thuban) and then boom, he was gone (Alioth).


                              > > > > > >
                              > > > > > >
                              > > > > > > Heath Ledger
                              > > > > > > April 4, 1979
                              > > > > > > Perth, Western Australia, Australia
                              > > > > > >
                              > > > > > >
                              > > > > > > using noon AWST

                              > > > > > >
                              > > > > > >
                              > > > > > >
                              > > > > > > Saturn
                              > > > > > >
                              > > > > > >
                              > > > > > >
                              > > > > > > Thuban (Alpha Draconis)
                              > > > > > > Alioth (Epsilon Ursae Majoris)
                            • GM
                              Hi MArk, Regarding Heath Ledger,I read in another forum that he was born at 6.30 am. Another interesting thing, I read the map of a man, who has Deneb conjunct
                              Message 14 of 18 , Jan 30, 2008
                                Hi MArk,

                                Regarding Heath Ledger,I read in another forum that he was born at
                                6.30 am.

                                Another interesting thing, I read the map of a man, who has Deneb
                                conjunct his Jupiter, and Chiron in the second house.
                                I asked him if he had been bitten by dogs in his childhood.
                                Well well he was so shocked ! how did you know ? he asked ?
                                He was bitten, and today at the age of 46 he has a " dog issue "and
                                trauma, would not go close to dogs, or let his children have one at
                                home !!
                                Imazing !

                                Gaby


                                --- In thefixedstars@yahoogroups.com, Mark Andrew Holmes
                                <mahtezcatpoc@...> wrote:
                                >
                                >
                                > --- msbhavens1 <msbhavens1@...> wrote:
                                >
                                > >
                                > > thanks!
                                > >
                                > > - In thefixedstars@yahoogroups.com, Mark Andrew
                                > > Holmes
                                > > <mahtezcatpoc@> wrote:
                                > > >
                                > > > I'll have his star alignments in a while.
                                >
                                >
                                > Heath Ledger
                                > April 4, 1979
                                > Perth, Western Australia, Australia
                                >
                                >
                                > using noon AWST
                                >
                                >
                                > Sun, Eris
                                > (Ledger's natal Eris is at 14 Aries 16)
                                >
                                >
                                > Alpheratz (Alpha Andromedae)
                                >
                                >
                                >
                                >
                                > Saturn
                                >
                                >
                                >
                                > Thuban (Alpha Draconis)
                                > Alioth (Epsilon Ursae Majoris)
                                >
                                >
                                >
                                > Pluto
                                >
                                >
                                > Seginus (Gamma Bootis)
                                >
                                >
                                >
                                >
                                > Pallas
                                >
                                >
                                > Nashira (Gamma Capricorni)
                                > Castra (Epsilon Capricorni)
                                >
                                >
                                >
                                > Juno
                                >
                                >
                                >
                                > Algenib (Gamma Pegasi)
                                >
                                >
                                >
                                > Chiron
                                >
                                >
                                >
                                > Hamal (Alpha Arietis)
                                > Schedir (Alpha Cassiopeiae)
                                >
                                >
                                >
                                > Mark A. Holmes
                                >
                                >
                                >
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                              • GM
                                Putin has his Jupiter in the 7th close to Menkar.. what is the orb of effect ??
                                Message 15 of 18 , Jan 30, 2008
                                  Putin has his Jupiter in the 7th close to Menkar.. what is the orb of
                                  effect ??

                                  --- In thefixedstars@yahoogroups.com, "GM" <gabymitt@...> wrote:
                                  >
                                  > Hi MArk,
                                  >
                                  > Regarding Heath Ledger,I read in another forum that he was born at
                                  > 6.30 am.
                                  >
                                  > Another interesting thing, I read the map of a man, who has Deneb
                                  > conjunct his Jupiter, and Chiron in the second house.
                                  > I asked him if he had been bitten by dogs in his childhood.
                                  > Well well he was so shocked ! how did you know ? he asked ?
                                  > He was bitten, and today at the age of 46 he has a " dog issue "and
                                  > trauma, would not go close to dogs, or let his children have one at
                                  > home !!
                                  > Imazing !
                                  >
                                  > Gaby
                                  >
                                  >
                                  > --- In thefixedstars@yahoogroups.com, Mark Andrew Holmes
                                  > <mahtezcatpoc@> wrote:
                                  > >
                                  > >
                                  > > --- msbhavens1 <msbhavens1@> wrote:
                                  > >
                                  > > >
                                  > > > thanks!
                                  > > >
                                  > > > - In thefixedstars@yahoogroups.com, Mark Andrew
                                  > > > Holmes
                                  > > > <mahtezcatpoc@> wrote:
                                  > > > >
                                  > > > > I'll have his star alignments in a while.
                                  > >
                                  > >
                                  > > Heath Ledger
                                  > > April 4, 1979
                                  > > Perth, Western Australia, Australia
                                  > >
                                  > >
                                  > > using noon AWST
                                  > >
                                  > >
                                  > > Sun, Eris
                                  > > (Ledger's natal Eris is at 14 Aries 16)
                                  > >
                                  > >
                                  > > Alpheratz (Alpha Andromedae)
                                  > >
                                  > >
                                  > >
                                  > >
                                  > > Saturn
                                  > >
                                  > >
                                  > >
                                  > > Thuban (Alpha Draconis)
                                  > > Alioth (Epsilon Ursae Majoris)
                                  > >
                                  > >
                                  > >
                                  > > Pluto
                                  > >
                                  > >
                                  > > Seginus (Gamma Bootis)
                                  > >
                                  > >
                                  > >
                                  > >
                                  > > Pallas
                                  > >
                                  > >
                                  > > Nashira (Gamma Capricorni)
                                  > > Castra (Epsilon Capricorni)
                                  > >
                                  > >
                                  > >
                                  > > Juno
                                  > >
                                  > >
                                  > >
                                  > > Algenib (Gamma Pegasi)
                                  > >
                                  > >
                                  > >
                                  > > Chiron
                                  > >
                                  > >
                                  > >
                                  > > Hamal (Alpha Arietis)
                                  > > Schedir (Alpha Cassiopeiae)
                                  > >
                                  > >
                                  > >
                                  > > Mark A. Holmes
                                  > >
                                  > >
                                  > >
                                  >
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                                • Mark Andrew Holmes
                                  ... I always use 1 00 . Mark A. Holmes ____________________________________________________________________________________ Looking for last minute shopping
                                  Message 16 of 18 , Jan 30, 2008
                                    --- GM <gabymitt@...> wrote:

                                    > Putin has his Jupiter in the 7th close to Menkar..
                                    > what is the orb of
                                    > effect ??


                                    I always use 1 00'.


                                    Mark A. Holmes


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                                  • GM
                                    In that case, Putin is not a candidate, but Tony Blair, and Shimon Peres are... ... ______________________________________________________________________ ...
                                    Message 17 of 18 , Jan 30, 2008
                                      In that case, Putin is not a candidate, but Tony Blair, and Shimon
                                      Peres are...

                                      --- In thefixedstars@yahoogroups.com, Mark Andrew Holmes
                                      <mahtezcatpoc@...> wrote:
                                      >
                                      >
                                      > --- GM <gabymitt@...> wrote:
                                      >
                                      > > Putin has his Jupiter in the 7th close to Menkar..
                                      > > what is the orb of
                                      > > effect ??
                                      >
                                      >
                                      > I always use 1 00'.
                                      >
                                      >
                                      > Mark A. Holmes
                                      >
                                      >
                                      >
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                                    • Trishmare7@aol.com
                                      In a message dated 1/30/2008 7:15:04 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, ... I always use 1 00 . Mark A. Holmes I also use 1 00 but will allow a little bit more if
                                      Message 18 of 18 , Jan 31, 2008
                                        In a message dated 1/30/2008 7:15:04 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, mahtezcatpoc@... writes:
                                        --- GM <gabymitt@zahav. net.il> wrote:

                                        > Putin has his Jupiter in the 7th close to Menkar..
                                        > what is the orb of
                                        > effect ??

                                        I always use 1 00'.

                                        Mark A. Holmes
                                        I also use 1 00' but will allow a little bit more if the circumstances seem to warrant it.
                                         
                                        Trish Marie




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