Re: [thefixedstars] Draco
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From: "Diana K Rosenberg" <fixed.stars@...>
Sent: Saturday, 10 February, 2007 1:39 PM
Subject: [thefixedstars] Chiron, Aquila, Sagitta; etc.
Posted by: "Mark Andrew Holmes" mahtezcatpoc@... mahtezcatpoc
Date: Fri Feb 9, 2007 3:56 pm ((PST))
> Mark sent
> > Chiron
> > *Tso Ke (Rho Aquilae)
> > Diamond Ring Nebula (Abell 70 Aquilae)
> > *Chi Cygni (fairly well-known variable)
> > *Struve 2398 (Draconis; nearby star)
> > *Epsilon Indi
> > *Lucida Microscopii (Gamma Microscopii)
> > WZ Sagittae (cataclysmic variable)
> How about the helicopters being shot down in Iraq - Aquila and Cygnus
> = flight, Sagitta = weapons
Yes, and Indus = Asia? Also, there are claims that this was an Al-Qaeda job
And, you will notice that stars from Microscopium are involved also. This
whole mess is coming under more scrutiny.
DK: About Indus, I have found it to relate to indigeonus peoples; in
this case the "native" local people as distinct from westerners as
I don't usually use the modern constellation figures, but Indus is one of
the exceptions; my problem with Microscopium is that it impinges on stars
that would be the aft end of the Southern Fish; however, in this case I
think you might have something (more scrutiny)
RW: Tsk-tsk. Why not use all? But I suppose the modern constellations
can take time to grow on one, and begin to make sense as a natural
and perhaps inevitable outgrowth of the older batch, even as their
fulfillment.. filling gaps and encompassing the whole celestial
Indus, originally drawn in Bayer's (1603) atlas as a
North American 'Indian' hunter/warrior clutching arrows,
and depicted later by others with a quiver, or as The
Persian, can relate generically to indigenes anywhere I
suppose, but maybe the main idea is projectile weaponry.
And the indigene in this case could be, quite literally,
a Persian.. or at least an Iranian inspired Shiite.
Note that the sword, club, arrow, and serpent are the
four types of celestial weaponry, corresponding with
the Four Elements - Air Earth Fire Water, respectively.
We might wonder about the serpent because it's animate,
but de-animating venom has long been the deadliest of
Indus is one of the dozen or so human figures among the
88 constellations. This in itself is well worth noting,
and might indicate that its significance, as a new member
of the Round Table, will grow. In fact, Indus is the only
And, like Aquarius, it may become much more feminine than
masculine. The key figure in the Aquarius trump in Tarot
has been depicted as a female for a century or so, and
at least one early star-mapping astronomer drew Indus as
an AmerIndian huntress.
Although not quite there yet, unless we imagine it, the
whole 88 precipitates an orderly and balanced set of
categories which begins with seven Heroes (Sky Lords)
and seven Heroines (Sky Ladies), then proceeds through
ten more categories of seven with four constellations
remaining - one for each of the Elements.
The key group of seven, however, is the one comprised
of the archetypal weapons/implements of the traditional
ritual circle: North: Scutum (Shield), South: Sagitta
(Arrow), East: Crux (Dagger), West: Crater (Cup), and
Ara (Central Altar); with Crowns above & below.
The Microscope belongs to the category of Scientific Tools
as distinct from Artistic (or Creative) Tools.
DK: One thing I've found with Draco is a sort of "overview," and "the
ability to see (or imagine) the whole picture" (Draco is at the N Pole,
the word "dragon" derives from Greek derkein, "seeing") and I found a
lot of playwrights and filmmakers under its stars...then there's the
source of the word "draconian":
RW: "Derives"? There does seem to be a phonic & meaningful
resonance with -derkein- but usually the more obvious/direct
link is to [Gk] -drakon- serpent. I guess you have a reference
that links back to maybe some Indo-European *dr-k = seeing