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Re: [thefixedstars] Brazil plane crash

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  • Mark Andrew Holmes
    down at the bottom ... Go ahead, and if you see any fixed star alignments that you think are relevant in this situation, let me know. Everybody: I m sorry I
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      down at the bottom

      --- Diana K Rosenberg <fixed.stars@...> wrote:

      > These are e-mails from the Political Astrology list
      > that I thought
      > others might like to see.
      >
      > Antonio sent:
      >
      > Re: Brazilian crash data
      > Posted by: "Antonio Harres"
      > kauborealis@... kauborealis
      > Date: Sat Sep 30, 2006 5:32 pm (PDT)
      >
      > 09/29
      > 03:35 hs PM Manaus - Take Off
      > 04:48 hs PM Off Radar Screen - Sao Felix - Mato
      > Grosso
      > The crashed airplane entered in service 09/12
      >
      > Gol Airlines
      > Incorporated 08/01/2000
      > First fight 01/15/2001 from Brasilia to Sao
      > Paulo
      >
      > First GOL flight from Manaus to Rio
      > 10/01/2002 - 01:50 AM Take Off
      >
      > There is no data available about the Legacy Jet take
      > off from Sao Jose dos
      > Campos, Sao Paulo state.
      >
      > Antonio Harres
      > ==========================
      > Thank you Antonio!
      >
      > I always try to get the scheduled take-off times of
      > crashes because that is
      > where
      > the fate of the aircraft usually shows.
      >
      > Here there is the actual take-off time but not the
      > scheduled time.
      >
      > At first I did not see the problem - yes, there's
      > the Moon square Venus
      > (ruler 8th) and
      > Pluto square the Nodes, but is this enough to
      > predict disaster?
      >
      > I tried earlier times, guessing what the scheduled
      > take-off time might have
      > been - anywhere
      > from 3 to 3:30, perhaps; there you would have had
      > the IC at Algol, then the
      > Pleiades, both
      > harbingers of disaster; (the IC is the 1st thing I
      > look at, because that
      > rules "the final physical
      > outcome of the matter")
      >
      > But even if we stick strictly to the actual
      > take-off, 4 Gemini is on the IC
      > - that's the Hyades
      > cluster which can be quite brutal (and, by the way,
      > it's the highest-scoring
      > fixed star area for blindness!) And anything at 4
      > degrees of the mutable
      > signs hits the heliocentric Nodes of Neptune, and
      > the Moon-Pluto conjunction
      > is on this same axis, The take-off Asc was 0 Pisces
      > 43, which means that
      > Transpluto at 28 Leo 06 was cnj the Desc, which
      > according to Barbara
      > Watters, rules "encounters along the way" - in this
      > case a collision. While
      > working on the chart, I realized that right now we
      > have Hades-Kronos =
      > Aries! Charles Emerson used to say that
      > Hades-Kronos = elevators, because
      > Hades was "down below" and Kronos was "height" or
      > "above"-- obviously we can
      > relate this to airplanes as well.
      >
      > But I still did not see a clear-and-obvious danger
      > here, so I went ahead and
      > ran a chart for the "off the radar"
      > time and place, and Oh Boy, does that tell the tale!
      > All 4 angles were at
      > 29 - 58 of the mutables: 29 Pisces 58 rising (star
      > Scheat, "extreme
      > misfortune"), the 29 Sag 20 Moon culminating, the 29
      > Virgo 19 Venus cnj the
      > Desc, cnj the Vertex ("things out of control in the
      > environment") at 0 Libra
      > 02 - so there's your collision - see Barbara
      > Watters, above. And the IC?
      > Bracketed by Hades and Kronos - the IC was 29 Gemini
      > 58 - the exact Hades -
      > Kronos midpoint was 0 Libra 07. At both the
      > take-off and the crash, Mercury
      > ruled the IC; Mercury was 135 Uranus, co-ruler of
      > the take-off 12th (the
      > other 12th ruler, Saturn, was semi-square the Sun,
      > and both were on the axis
      > of the nodes of Uranus). And Jupiter, co-chart
      > ruler at both take-off and
      > crash was 18 Scorpio 16, on the heliocentric SNode
      > of Mercury, square
      > Neptune, the other ruler.
      >
      > Those late degrees of signs (last 3-5 degrees,
      > usually) are in the terms of
      > either Mars or Saturn, in the Table of Dignities
      > given by Lilly: in this
      > case it was Gemini, Virgo and Sag crash angles in
      > the terms of Mars, Pisces
      > Asc in the terms of Saturn. So at the take-off,
      > both Venus (ruler 8th) and
      > the Moon were in the dangerous terms of Mars.
      >
      > So sad.
      >
      > Again, many thanks, Antonio. May I send this to
      > Astrolife and the Uranian
      > list?
      >
      > Love, Diana
      > =======================
      > Antonio sent:
      >
      > Re: Brazilian crash
      > Posted by: "Antonio Harres"
      > kauborealis@... kauborealis
      > Date: Sun Oct 1, 2006 6:07 am (PDT)
      >
      > Hi Diana,
      >
      > The flight was scheduled for 03:30 PM.
      > =======================
      > Thank you!
      >
      > The one major change was the Asc-Desc axis, which
      > were
      > 29 Aquar 26 - 29 Leo 26 (both in the terms of Mars);
      >
      > this means that the rulers were Saturn (w/Uranus)
      > and the Sun.
      >
      > Both were (are) in poor cosmic state, were
      > semi-square each other,
      > and on the axis of the nodes of Uranus (please note
      > that Saturn is now
      > opposite 9/11's Uranus - just realized that!) If
      > you prefer Uranus as
      > the only ruler of Aquarius, it was, as I mentioned,
      > 135 Mercury, ruler
      > IC-of-final-outcome.
      >
      > The solstice point of the Sun was 23 Pisces 29, cnj
      > /opposing Nodes and
      > square Pluto;
      >
      > By the way, that position of Mercury is aligned with
      > an obsolete
      > constellation
      > "Robur Carolinum" - "Charles' Oak" which was made
      > out of dim stars of Argo
      > Navis.
      > I always keep it in mind because it's the only tree
      > in the sky. Here it is
      > interesting because Mercury rules the final outcome,
      > and they landed in the
      > jungle!
      >
      > I just remembered that Ivy Goldstein-Jacobson wrote
      > that anything in the
      > last degree of a sign denoted someone "at the end of
      > his rope"
      > or something "on the way out," and one example of
      > this that I remember
      > was the lunation that preceded JFK's assassination -
      > Mercury ruled the
      > MC at Washington, and Mercury was in the 3rd at 29
      > Scorpio.
      >
      > Love, Diana
      >
      > PS: Antonio has also sent data on the airlines and
      > the pilots - if anyone
      > wants
      > it, let me know.
      >
      >
      >

      Go ahead, and if you see any fixed star alignments
      that you think are relevant in this situation, let me
      know.


      Everybody: I'm sorry I don't have the weekly alignment
      list posted yet, but there was some kind of problem
      with my ISP yesterday; I couldn't get online. I'll try
      to have it posted today.


      Mark A. Holmes

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