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3851Re: Fixed star alignments (January 6, 2008)

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  • msbhavens1
    Jan 15, 2008
      definitely subjective, but this is what those of us who dont like
      her see. adn I'm a left wing liberal so that is saying a bit,

      MissB

      --- In thefixedstars@yahoogroups.com, Shawhouse <shawhouse@...>
      wrote:
      >
      > This is subjective. I don't support her because of her Iraq vote,
      but
      > she seems beautiful and charming to me. I've never seen her do
      anything
      > that seemed obnoxious.
      > Diana S.
      >
      > msbhavens1 wrote:
      > >
      > >
      > > I beg to differ here, because they dont talk about her tone and
      > > demeanor because she is a woman, but because she is often
      offensive
      > > in tone and demeanor. This is an issue because it affects
      ability to
      > > work with others and president is often a substitute for the
      > > SEcretary State. mediating and working towards positive outcomes
      to
      > > big issues. I"m a hard core democrat and I dont want to vote for
      > > her, becaues I think she is a liability in the mediation arena,
      > > because she has an obnoxious demeanor (no better on her, than on
      W)
      > > and because franly, I"m sick of seeing only two families in the
      > > White house, smacks of imperialism. I also had an inclination to
      > > feel as though that incident was orchestrated. it came accross as
      > > very staged.
      > >
      > > MissB
      > >
      > > --- In thefixedstars@yahoogroups.com
      > > <mailto:thefixedstars%40yahoogroups.com>, "mahtezcatpoc"
      > > <mahtezcatpoc@> wrote:
      > > >
      > > > --- In thefixedstars@yahoogroups.com
      > > <mailto:thefixedstars%40yahoogroups.com>, "mahtezcatpoc"
      > > > <mahtezcatpoc@> wrote:
      > > >
      > > > >
      > > > > Maybe we've got some stellar alignments indicating sudden
      events
      > > or
      > > > > (positive?) reversals of fortune this week (I'm talking about
      > > Hillary
      > > > > Clinton, as you might have guessed).
      > > > >
      > > >
      > > >
      > > > Jupiter and Ira Furoris ("furious anger")? She was told by male
      > > > hecklers in New Hampshire to "iron their shirts," people talk
      about
      > > > her appearance and tone of voice in a way they never do with
      the
      > > male
      > > > candidates, and found herself getting remarks which seem
      > > condescending
      > > > to many (e.g., people seem concerned about whether or not she's
      > > > likable more than they are with the male candidates). And
      (again in
      > > > New Hampshire) she kind of got misty-eyed at one point, which
      > > seemed
      > > > to humanize her to many (personally, I thought she was
      planning and
      > > > managing things a little too carefully and was maybe starting
      to
      > > come
      > > > across as boring and artificial).
      > > >
      > > > She's cultivated the ground very well in New Hampshire and had
      the
      > > > resources to recover from her third-place finish in Iowa, but
      she
      > > may
      > > > have benefited (Jupiter) from anger (Ira Furoris) over all this
      > > sexist
      > > > stuff in the New Hampshire primary.
      > > >
      > > >
      > > > Mark A. Holmes
      > > >
      > >
      > >
      >
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