Re: [the boredoms] sort of off-subject
- thanks! as you realize, labeling styles/formats/genres can be all too
easily unbalanced when so many influences enter the mix; labels are
often used lazily by radio programmers and many writers, but they can
help in giving would-be listeners a sense of what might be expected.
as with the boredoms, several friends who once thought the group was
only responsible for loud, sometimes dissonant dada rock--as they
have been, and which i fully enjoy--were nonplussed seeing the group
perform an amazing live set of melodic (and loud) music that drew
peripherally upon references to can, the mc5, and disparate others...-
the stockhausen (folkways label?) lp i heard years ago was stunning;
i'm guessing it was from late '50s/early '60s, and had some wildly
collagist work that anyone in this group should enjoy. it's
not "difficult" music (another unfortunate writer-applied label), but
struck me as more advanced than anything i'd heard, for its amazingly
blended textures.-- In theboredoms@y..., steve matis
> i am not sure if stockhausen had that much to do with
> 'musique concrete,' although i know very little about
> him aside from his contribution to synthesizers and
> such. pierre schaeffer (sp?) is genreally considered
> the father of 'musique concrete' as i know it. he
> made the fisrt 'concrete' recording in the late 40s of
> some trains and spliced them together. there is a 4 cd
> boxset available through www.forcedexposure.com. luc
> ferrari and pierre henry are also both wonderful
> composers of 'musique concrete' and they both have a
> ton of music out thats available through forced
> exposure as well. tzadik put out a luc ferrari cd
> called 'cellule 75' a long time ago and that has some
> great music on it, although i really don't know if i
> would classify it underneath 'musique concrete.' luc
> ferrari has put out tons of interesting music over the
> last few years. 'presque rien' is probably his most
> famous album and that has recordings he made of a
> village and some great tape collage stuff that sounds
> EXACTLY like your description of the stockhausen lp.
> all sorts of crazy sounds. 'cellule 75' is 2 songs,
> one really monotonous with a piano, some percussion
> and tape stuff, while the other is a incredible mix of
> various sounds looped in and out of each other that
> totally zones me out everytime. 'cycles des souvenirs'
> is his newest one and that was mae with 6 cd players
> all playing 6 cds at random. the cds contained
> silence, found sounds, harmonics, voices, and
> anything else that ferrari had happened to record and
> put on a cd. its great as well. in any case, just do
> a search for 'musique concrete' on the forced exposure
> website and they will help you out. good luck.
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> > was there ever a 4?A contributor to the discographies who pops up in my mailbox every
> I heard they never released a 4, because it's a # of bad luck in
> japan, much like #13 in the west.
> If you only have 1/2 of 7, get the rest, it's my favorite super
> roots. I really like 8 too, & 6 then 3 and 1. I don't have 2&5.
now and again told me that the issue wasn't actually 4 being an
unlucky number in Japan, but copyright. I asked, but didn't get any
more details than that.
The discography updates are coming along slowly, but surely. When
everything's ready, I'll announce it here.