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  • ginjit2002
    Hello - I have a question: exactly how rare is Super Roots 5? While 6 and 7 often turn up on ebay, I have never seen No.5. Does it come in the same type of
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      Hello - I have a question: exactly how rare is Super Roots 5? While 6
      and 7 often turn up on ebay, I have never seen No.5. Does it come in
      the same type of cardboard sleeve as No.7? I wait and wait with a
      ridiculous sum of money set aside to bid on it, but I never see it!
      The hole in my collection is causing me to lose sleep :-( !!!
      Thanks for any info.
      Jim
    • wingsoftoast
      more of another question than an answer - i m trying to get super roots 7 myself - is it out of print? i ve tried the lovely people at forcedexposure and
      Message 2 of 22 , Aug 1, 2002
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        more of another question than an answer - i'm trying to get super
        roots 7 myself - is it out of print? i've tried the lovely people at
        forcedexposure and aquarius + they say that they're waiting for stock-

        by the way in case you hadn't already looked : http://www.ottawa-
        anime.org/~eyevocal/boredoms/boredisc.htm (updated popkiss
        discography) has super roots 5 as being available
        but god knows where
        peter


        -- In theboredoms@y..., "ginjit2002" <ginjit@f...> wrote:
        > Hello - I have a question: exactly how rare is Super Roots 5? While
        6
        > and 7 often turn up on ebay, I have never seen No.5. Does it come
        in
        > the same type of cardboard sleeve as No.7? I wait and wait with a
        > ridiculous sum of money set aside to bid on it, but I never see it!
        > The hole in my collection is causing me to lose sleep :-( !!!
        > Thanks for any info.
        > Jim
      • panicstepper
        ... 6 ... in ... It comes in a standard plastic case and is, I think, pretty rare. SR 6 and 7 are still in print in Japan, but I think 5 has been deleted a
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          --- In theboredoms@y..., "ginjit2002" <ginjit@f...> wrote:
          > Hello - I have a question: exactly how rare is Super Roots 5? While
          6
          > and 7 often turn up on ebay, I have never seen No.5. Does it come
          in
          > the same type of cardboard sleeve as No.7? I wait and wait with a
          > ridiculous sum of money set aside to bid on it, but I never see it!
          > The hole in my collection is causing me to lose sleep :-( !!!
          > Thanks for any info.
          > Jim


          It comes in a standard plastic case and is, I think, pretty rare. SR
          6 and 7 are still in print in Japan, but I think 5 has been deleted a
          while, so it is difficult to get hold of. It is worth tracking
          though- 65 mins. of cymbal mayhem!

          Nat
        • Mr Theela Hun-Ginjit
          I got SR 7 on ebay a while back for about $35 I think. It s possibly my favourite Boredoms piece. And what art work! It was on Forced Exposure a couple of
          Message 4 of 22 , Aug 1, 2002
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            I got SR 7 on ebay a while back for about $35 I think. It's possibly my
            favourite Boredoms piece. And what art work! It was on Forced Exposure
            a couple of weeks ago which suprised me.

            But number 5! I'll be old and grey before that one comes my way. There
            must be someone out there in the world that bought it and would be
            willing to sell it! But where is that person?? My $ are ready! :-)

            --
          • 1-0
            ... 6 ... in ... I have it on mp3, but have never seen the CD listed for sale. While we re on the topic, what would any of you consider the worst Boredoms CD?
            Message 5 of 22 , Aug 1, 2002
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              --- In theboredoms@y..., "ginjit2002" <ginjit@f...> wrote:
              > Hello - I have a question: exactly how rare is Super Roots 5? While
              6
              > and 7 often turn up on ebay, I have never seen No.5. Does it come
              in
              > the same type of cardboard sleeve as No.7? I wait and wait with a
              > ridiculous sum of money set aside to bid on it, but I never see it!
              > The hole in my collection is causing me to lose sleep :-( !!!
              > Thanks for any info.
              > Jim

              I have it on mp3, but have never seen the CD listed for sale. While
              we're on the topic, what would any of you consider the worst Boredoms
              CD? I think it would be SR5, just for sheer lack of motivation to
              play it often. I know there is something of a mystical noise-trance
              aspect of it, but it's not nearly as interesting to me as what they
              did with the same vibe on the albums after that.

              Dominique
            • chiketee
              WHAT?? I think Super Roots 5 is excellant - not sure i understood what i had got when i first listened to it - but its grown on me soo much - I love SR5 - Its
              Message 6 of 22 , Aug 1, 2002
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                WHAT?? I think Super Roots 5 is excellant - not sure i understood what
                i had got when i first listened to it - but its grown on me soo much -
                I love SR5 - Its better than SR7 inspired by the Mekons - and both are
                better than SR8 a tribute to Osamu Tezuka - So 5 is much more into
                their own world -
                I usually listen to it while im working - loud - and time flies by -
                and when you get hypnotised into the groove you really notice the
                chord changes - and its 64 minutes of rock out - I love it lots!

                Personally the worst CD is wow2 because the recorded quality wasnt so
                great, maybe because it wasnt official..

                Also, have you heard Super Roots 2 - now that is a rare item that
                costs waaay too much for very little - thats where the gripes should be -

                I think, although hard to find, you can still buy SR 7, theres a few
                SR 5 about, and lots of SR8.. keep checking all the bookmarked cd
                stores and jump on them when you get a chance.

                Cya
                J
                >
                > I have it on mp3, but have never seen the CD listed for sale. While
                > we're on the topic, what would any of you consider the worst Boredoms
                > CD? I think it would be SR5, just for sheer lack of motivation to
                > play it often. I know there is something of a mystical noise-trance
                > aspect of it, but it's not nearly as interesting to me as what they
                > did with the same vibe on the albums after that.
                >
                > Dominique
              • fastyouth81
                i think their worst is definitely not WOW2 (possibly my favorite). i love the sound on that CD! their weakest material for my money is on Chocolate Synthesizer
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                  i think their worst is definitely not WOW2 (possibly my favorite). i
                  love the sound on that CD! their weakest material for my money is on
                  Chocolate Synthesizer (coincedently one of the few albums recorded
                  for an American major label). and i love SR5. my least favorite
                  super roots is actually the first, although i haven't heard
                  everything on SR2, which is way more rare than SR3 and SR5. Gemm.com
                  has those two listed, but through a 1-star vendor. i dunno...
                  ryan

                  --- In theboredoms@y..., chiketee <no_reply@y...> wrote:
                  > WHAT?? I think Super Roots 5 is excellant - not sure i understood
                  what
                  > i had got when i first listened to it - but its grown on me soo
                  much -
                  > I love SR5 - Its better than SR7 inspired by the Mekons - and both
                  are
                  > better than SR8 a tribute to Osamu Tezuka - So 5 is much more into
                  > their own world -
                  > I usually listen to it while im working - loud - and time flies by -
                  > and when you get hypnotised into the groove you really notice the
                  > chord changes - and its 64 minutes of rock out - I love it lots!
                  >
                  > Personally the worst CD is wow2 because the recorded quality wasnt
                  so
                  > great, maybe because it wasnt official..
                  >
                  > Also, have you heard Super Roots 2 - now that is a rare item that
                  > costs waaay too much for very little - thats where the gripes
                  should be -
                  >
                  > I think, although hard to find, you can still buy SR 7, theres a few
                  > SR 5 about, and lots of SR8.. keep checking all the bookmarked cd
                  > stores and jump on them when you get a chance.
                  >
                  > Cya
                  > J
                  > >
                  > > I have it on mp3, but have never seen the CD listed for sale.
                  While
                  > > we're on the topic, what would any of you consider the worst
                  Boredoms
                  > > CD? I think it would be SR5, just for sheer lack of motivation
                  to
                  > > play it often. I know there is something of a mystical noise-
                  trance
                  > > aspect of it, but it's not nearly as interesting to me as what
                  they
                  > > did with the same vibe on the albums after that.
                  > >
                  > > Dominique
                • exfedex2000
                  Super Roots 5 is TREMENDOUS! It s the beginning of their transformation into something other than difficult to follow noise fests! When you hit play on
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                    Super Roots 5 is TREMENDOUS! It's the beginning of their
                    transformation into something other than difficult to follow noise
                    fests! When you hit "play" on Super Roots 5, it's like somebody
                    pulled the pin on a hand grenade. If you haven't heard it yet, I'll
                    burn it for you!
                  • ginjit2002
                    ... I ll ... Thanks very much! That would be great, until I can find the real thing someday. If you want, I can trade you a Vooredoms live show for it
                    Message 9 of 22 , Aug 2, 2002
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                      --- In theboredoms@y..., exfedex2000 <no_reply@y...> wrote:
                      > Super Roots 5 is TREMENDOUS! It's the beginning of their
                      > transformation into something other than difficult to follow noise
                      > fests! When you hit "play" on Super Roots 5, it's like somebody
                      > pulled the pin on a hand grenade. If you haven't heard it yet,
                      I'll
                      > burn it for you!

                      Thanks very much! That would be great, until I can find the real
                      thing someday. If you want, I can trade you a Vooredoms live show for
                      it (Brighton or London.) Other live Boredoms stuff if you prefer...
                      Send me an email at supershineon@... and we can sort
                      something out.
                      Cheers,
                      Jim
                      PS Anyone else wanting to trade live stuff, please send me a mail as
                      well. I have quite a lot of live stuff by Boredoms, Acid Mothers etc.
                      Thanks.
                    • sooooo spicy
                      hey jim, i d be interested in hearing the vooredoms shows. how are the acid mothers performances you have? i should be recording cotton casino, makato
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                        hey jim,

                        i'd be interested in hearing the vooredoms shows. how
                        are the acid mothers performances you have? i should
                        be recording cotton casino, makato kawabata, and some
                        other guy playing later this month... not sure what
                        it'll sound like, but i'm very excited!

                        these are the things i have to trade. my list is
                        humble and the *s are ones i did myself!

                        miles davis: 10/27/69 rome italy (2 discs)
                        john coltrane: 11/4/63 stuttgart (2 discs)
                        *pharoah sanders: 6/12/2 @ yoshi's oakland CA (2
                        discs)
                        *rova saxaphone quartet: 6/3/2 san francisco (2 discs)
                        the beatles: "turn me on dead man" the john barrett
                        tapes(2 cds)

                        peace,
                        kim


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                      • sooooo spicy
                        blah! sorry for posting that to the whole list! well... if anyone else is interested in trading, e-mail me. __________________________________________________
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                          blah! sorry for posting that to the whole list!
                          well... if anyone else is interested in trading,
                          e-mail me.

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                        • souljacker68
                          Dominique wrote: While we re on the topic, what would any of you consider the worst Boredoms CD? That s a hard question. I have to say that although I love The
                          Message 12 of 22 , Aug 4, 2002
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                            Dominique wrote:

                            While we're on the topic, what would any of you consider the worst
                            Boredoms CD?

                            That's a hard question. I have to say that although I love The
                            Boredoms they've released some crap. At their best they are
                            phenomenal at their worst they can be awful.

                            That should get a discussion going.
                          • surrealeye_2001
                            Me-personally-myself-I think the Super Roots series are hit and miss sometimes,of course it s basically just screwing around so maybe that doesn t count as a
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                              Me-personally-myself-I think the Super Roots series are hit and miss
                              sometimes,of course it's basically just screwing around so maybe that
                              doesn't count as a full album.I downloaded a few of the Super Roots 2
                              or 4 the ones with MagicMilk,Sexy Boredoms,I didn't care for that at
                              all.My favorite is still number 6,and Eye's 4 year-old-on-a-drum-
                              machine remix of Jungle Taitei was pointless IMO.

                              Let's see,the one that doesn't grab me all the time is Chocolate
                              Synthesizer.I have to pick and choose what I play on that,it's so
                              noisy and abrasive and the sound quality just buzzing.I wish the
                              Boredoms had more bottom end in their recordings in general.On some
                              of the songs from Melt Banana's At Light Velocity,there is very nice
                              production where the bass is up front and the drums are crisp,much
                              better than what Zorn did with Bore on Wow2.

                              On the other side,Pop Tatari is a classic of What the F**k? art.
                            • trigger_goldberg
                              I m never one to blindly worship. Yet somehow, in some way, I manage to find an extreme amount of enjoyment in almost every single Boredoms release I ve
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                                I'm never one to blindly worship. Yet somehow, in some way, I
                                manage to find an extreme amount of enjoyment in almost every
                                single Boredoms release I've encountered. The only Boredoms
                                records I don'r care for are the REBORE series and, funnily
                                enough, SUPER ROOTS 5. In the case of REBORE, I just don't
                                like dance mixes and all four editions (including eYe's) seem to
                                tread too closely to that territory for my pleasure. And as for
                                SUPER ROOTS 5-- it's not that I don't love the idea, it's just that
                                aesthetically I do not enjoy the sounds created within it.
                                Regarding the rest of the Bore catalog, though, I can find
                                something to love-- literally, love-- about everything else. I even
                                love SUPER ROOTS 2 if only because it's probably their most
                                irreverent release (it's not even 6 minutes long!). I didn't like
                                CHOCOLATE SYNTHESIZER a lot at first, but I just listened to it
                                again yesterday and I don't know why I didn't. I think it's top form,
                                but then again they're rarely not top form. I simply don't judge the
                                Boredoms the same way I judge other bands, and yet I don't
                                think that qualifies as a bias, especially when I can honestly say I
                                love it all and why.

                                I do have favorites, though. Top three would have to be 3) VISION
                                CREATION NEWSUN (blissful stuff), 2) POP TATARI (the art of
                                screaming has never been so marvelously perfected), and not
                                just 1) in the Bore catalog but an all time 1)-- SUPER AE. Nothing
                                less than the instantaneous creation of a 27-dimensional
                                parallel universe every time I put the goddamn thing on. This is
                                what the Boredoms are.

                                --- In theboredoms@y..., surrealeye_2001 <no_reply@y...> wrote:
                                > Me-personally-myself-I think the Super Roots series are hit
                                and miss
                                > sometimes,of course it's basically just screwing around so
                                maybe that
                                > doesn't count as a full album.I downloaded a few of the Super
                                Roots 2
                                > or 4 the ones with MagicMilk,Sexy Boredoms,I didn't care for
                                that at
                                > all.My favorite is still number 6,and Eye's 4 year-old-on-a-drum-
                                > machine remix of Jungle Taitei was pointless IMO.
                                >
                                > Let's see,the one that doesn't grab me all the time is
                                Chocolate
                                > Synthesizer.I have to pick and choose what I play on that,it's so
                                > noisy and abrasive and the sound quality just buzzing.I wish
                                the
                                > Boredoms had more bottom end in their recordings in
                                general.On some
                                > of the songs from Melt Banana's At Light Velocity,there is very
                                nice
                                > production where the bass is up front and the drums are
                                crisp,much
                                > better than what Zorn did with Bore on Wow2.
                                >
                                > On the other side,Pop Tatari is a classic of What the F**k? art.
                              • Michael Calore
                                ... hell Yes! [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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                                  > >SUPER AE. Nothing less than the instantaneous
                                  >creation of a 27-dimensional
                                  >parallel universe every time I put the goddamn thing
                                  >on. This is what the Boredoms are.

                                  hell Yes!




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                                • fastyouth81
                                  i m sorry, but i m going to have to speak up on behalf of the glorious cacaphony that is WOW2. there are moments on this record in which an impulse jostles my
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                                    i'm sorry, but i'm going to have to speak up on behalf of the
                                    glorious cacaphony that is WOW2. there are moments on this record in
                                    which an impulse jostles my body into blind frenzy of dance (2:00
                                    minutes into DOMSBORE or 1:20 minutes into MOGO?). and on that note,
                                    i think this record showcases certain qualities not captured on other
                                    records. A) yoshimi as a drummer/trumpeter and a vocalist is in top
                                    form on this record. this is definitely my favorite yoshimi record.
                                    B)the absence of cut-paste allows us to witness the boredoms in their
                                    most primal state. they are completely unhinged from eye's
                                    production techniques and i'm not slamming eye's production, but it's
                                    just here we see boredoms as a true live unit. in that sense this is
                                    their most down-to-earth production to date. C) JUST LISTEN TO THIS
                                    RECORD FOR GOD-SAKES! How could we live with out JET NET or HEPS or
                                    DOMSDOMS or ON (the first song i ever heard by the boredoms). i
                                    dunno, if this doesn't convince you listen to the cd as many times as
                                    possible. it's just that WOW2 (along with Soul Discharge and Super
                                    AE) are records that personally take me back to some of the best
                                    times in my life, so i always defend them.
                                    -ryan
                                    ps note that WOW2 was produced by boredoms and John Zorn.

                                    --- In theboredoms@y..., surrealeye_2001 <no_reply@y...> wrote:
                                    > Me-personally-myself-I think the Super Roots series are hit and
                                    miss
                                    > sometimes,of course it's basically just screwing around so maybe
                                    that
                                    > doesn't count as a full album.I downloaded a few of the Super Roots
                                    2
                                    > or 4 the ones with MagicMilk,Sexy Boredoms,I didn't care for that
                                    at
                                    > all.My favorite is still number 6,and Eye's 4 year-old-on-a-drum-
                                    > machine remix of Jungle Taitei was pointless IMO.
                                    >
                                    > Let's see,the one that doesn't grab me all the time is Chocolate
                                    > Synthesizer.I have to pick and choose what I play on that,it's so
                                    > noisy and abrasive and the sound quality just buzzing.I wish the
                                    > Boredoms had more bottom end in their recordings in general.On some
                                    > of the songs from Melt Banana's At Light Velocity,there is very
                                    nice
                                    > production where the bass is up front and the drums are crisp,much
                                    > better than what Zorn did with Bore on Wow2.
                                    >
                                    > On the other side,Pop Tatari is a classic of What the F**k? art.
                                  • alterego100usa
                                    wow2 isn t my favorite--it s too few-and-far-between in interest, and the mumbling and rambling stuff leaves me cold, although there s a bit of jamming that
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                                      wow2 isn't my favorite--it's too few-and-far-between in interest, and
                                      the mumbling and rambling stuff leaves me cold, although there's a
                                      bit of jamming that grabs my jones briefly; still, would prefer
                                      spending time with super ae or chocolate synthesizer. choco synth is
                                      nefarious here for the day i bought it, played it at full volume, and
                                      during "acid police" the earthquakelike vibrations blew a bunch of
                                      hardcover books off the shelves! :-- In theboredoms@y..., fastyouth81
                                      <no_reply@y...> wrote:
                                      > i'm sorry, but i'm going to have to speak up on behalf of the
                                      > glorious cacaphony that is WOW2. there are moments on this record
                                      in
                                      > which an impulse jostles my body into blind frenzy of dance (2:00
                                      > minutes into DOMSBORE or 1:20 minutes into MOGO?). and on that
                                      note,
                                      > i think this record showcases certain qualities not captured on
                                      other
                                      > records. A) yoshimi as a drummer/trumpeter and a vocalist is in top
                                      > form on this record. this is definitely my favorite yoshimi record.
                                      > B)the absence of cut-paste allows us to witness the boredoms in
                                      their
                                      > most primal state. they are completely unhinged from eye's
                                      > production techniques and i'm not slamming eye's production, but
                                      it's
                                      > just here we see boredoms as a true live unit. in that sense this
                                      is
                                      > their most down-to-earth production to date. C) JUST LISTEN TO THIS
                                      > RECORD FOR GOD-SAKES! How could we live with out JET NET or HEPS
                                      or
                                      > DOMSDOMS or ON (the first song i ever heard by the boredoms). i
                                      > dunno, if this doesn't convince you listen to the cd as many times
                                      as
                                      > possible. it's just that WOW2 (along with Soul Discharge and Super
                                      > AE) are records that personally take me back to some of the best
                                      > times in my life, so i always defend them.
                                      > -ryan
                                      > ps note that WOW2 was produced by boredoms and John Zorn.
                                      >
                                      > --- In theboredoms@y..., surrealeye_2001 <no_reply@y...> wrote:
                                      > > Me-personally-myself-I think the Super Roots series are hit and
                                      > miss
                                      > > sometimes,of course it's basically just screwing around so maybe
                                      > that
                                      > > doesn't count as a full album.I downloaded a few of the Super
                                      Roots
                                      > 2
                                      > > or 4 the ones with MagicMilk,Sexy Boredoms,I didn't care for that
                                      > at
                                      > > all.My favorite is still number 6,and Eye's 4 year-old-on-a-drum-
                                      > > machine remix of Jungle Taitei was pointless IMO.
                                      > >
                                      > > Let's see,the one that doesn't grab me all the time is Chocolate
                                      > > Synthesizer.I have to pick and choose what I play on that,it's so
                                      > > noisy and abrasive and the sound quality just buzzing.I wish the
                                      > > Boredoms had more bottom end in their recordings in general.On
                                      some
                                      > > of the songs from Melt Banana's At Light Velocity,there is very
                                      > nice
                                      > > production where the bass is up front and the drums are
                                      crisp,much
                                      > > better than what Zorn did with Bore on Wow2.
                                      > >
                                      > > On the other side,Pop Tatari is a classic of What the F**k? art.
                                    • Arthur Gadney
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                                        What's the difference between Super Roots 3 & 5?

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                                      • Arthur Gadney
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                                          The thing about WOW2 is that it has to be played LOUD.


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                                        • 1-0
                                          ... should be - Yeah, forgot about that one. Not really much to recommend (or more accurately, not much that stands out from SR1, which in itself seemed kind
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                                            --- In theboredoms@y..., chiketee <no_reply@y...> wrote:
                                            > Also, have you heard Super Roots 2 - now that is a rare item that
                                            > costs waaay too much for very little - thats where the gripes
                                            should be -

                                            Yeah, forgot about that one. Not really much to recommend (or more
                                            accurately, not much that stands out from SR1, which in itself seemed
                                            kind of like Pop Tatari "Unplugged" to me).

                                            Also, I agree SR8 was disappointing, but their first version of
                                            Jungle Taitei was fun (even if the remixes were pretty, er,
                                            pointless). However, I absolutely love SR7.

                                            The problem with Boredoms is that sometimes they make music that
                                            seems more important in the context of their evolution than it is to
                                            me, as a listener. Albums like SR3 and SR5 seem very necessary when
                                            you consider how far they had to come to bridge their early style
                                            with their current one, but how fun are they to listen to? That
                                            said, I probably need to sit down in front of SR5 again soon. :)

                                            Dominique
                                          • Bohr, Alexander
                                            I placed an order within a half an hour of that original post and I just got a note saying they had already sold the One copy they had (but to check back). So
                                            Message 21 of 22 , Apr 17, 2003
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                                              I placed an order within a half an hour of that original post and I just got
                                              a note saying they had already sold the One copy they had (but to check
                                              back).
                                              So don't start kicking yourself for shelling out $50 yet, the search
                                              continues.
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