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Re: Acts 1:9, Josephus, and the Departure of Moses

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  • TeunisV
    See also the parallels in the transfiguration stories. Compare Christ s ascencion with the departure of Eliah and Josephus account of the end of Moses. See
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      See also the parallels in the transfiguration stories.
      Compare Christ's ascencion with the departure of Eliah and Josephus' account of the end of Moses. See the role of the cloud and the accompanying disciples/followers, going eastward with Christ, Moses, Elijah.
      The issue is indicated in several commentaries ad loc. N.T.
      A western revisor influenced by Josephus? Or even the gospel writers copied old stories?

      Teunis van Lopik.

      --- In textualcriticism@yahoogroups.com, "james_snapp_jr" <voxverax@...> wrote:
      > Commenting on Acts 1:9, Metzger mentions that Augustine and the Sahidic version feature a variant in which "a cloud enveloped Jesus on earth before his ascension, and then he was lifted up (nothing is said of the disciples' watching his ascension). The only Greek witness to this form of text is codex Bezae, with KAUTA WIPONTOS AUTOU NEFELH hUPELABEN AUTON, KAI APHRQH, but it goes on, by conflation from the ordinary text, with the incongruous APO OFQALMWN AUTWN."
      > Sound slightly familiar? It does if you've read Josephus' "Antiquities of the Jews," Book 4, Chapter 8, part 48. Here's Whiston's translation of the similar passage:
      > "(325) Now as soon as they were come to the mountain called Abarim (which is a very high mountain, situated over against Jericho and one that affords, to such that are upon it, a prospect of the greatest part of the excellent land of Canaan), he dismissed the senate; (326) and as he was going to embrace Eleazar and Joshua, and was still discoursing with them, a cloud stood over him on the sudden, and he disappeared in a certain valley, although he wrote in the holy book that he died, which was done out of fear, lest they should venture to say that, because of his extraordinary virtue, he went to God."
      > Could this be evidence that the "Western revisor" was aware of the text of Josephus? Or of a similar oral tradition?
      > Yours in Christ,
      > James Snapp, Jr.
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