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Re: [textualcriticism] "claims" of Milne and Skeat

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  • Jan Krans
    ... In his NTG Wettstein actually describes how the solution referred to by Woide (and Peter) was found by him and an old friend of his (see his NTG, part I,
    Message 1 of 20 , Mar 15, 2005
      Peter Head wrote:

      > I'm not so sure that Wettstein should be taken as supporting the QS
      > reading for
      > Alexandrinus. Certainly Woide (1786) was undecided and printed it as
      > undecided, not as a clear nomen sacrum; and there was no unanimity among
      > readers of the manuscript in his day. In Woide's preface he refers
      > sympathetically to the solution that the line in the OMICRON is a
      > bleed-through from ESEBIAN on the other side, since the upper line of the
      > NS is clearly not the normal A line for NS.

      In his NTG Wettstein actually describes how the solution referred to by
      Woide (and Peter) was found by him and an 'old friend' of his (see his
      NTG, part I, Prolegomena, pp. 19-22, esp. p. 22; cf. NTG II ad 1 Tim
      3:16). A fascinating story and a good read. I can post it here or put it
      on my site if someone is interested.

      In conclusion: Wettstein's (real or imaginary) friend found the
      aforementioned solution; thus the theta in A is both real and imaginary.
      According to Wettstein, without any doubt, A* read(s) OS.

      BTW, Wettstein himself preferred the reading ὅ (hO) (see NTG II a.h.l.),
      following D*, the Vulgate etc., and also Erasmus - who suspected some kind
      of "orthodox corruption of scripture" here -, Grotius and Newton (nice
      company). Followed by more than five pages of apparatus in which he
      discusses the history of the reading θεός (QEOS). Again a fascinating
      story.

      Greetings,
      Jan Krans
      Vrije Universiteit, Amsterdam
    • Countach
      ... Unless those faded lines is a letter showing through from the other side as Tichendorf strongly claimed. I would have thought examination with a microscope
      Message 2 of 20 , Mar 15, 2005
        AndysDad wrote:

        > Therefore, any modern collator is going to assign these
        > codices to the column supporting the OS reading. And rightfully so,
        > were it not a matter of historical record that collators of past
        > centuries were still able to read these faded lines, and even
        > predicted that they would soon become altogether invisible.


        Unless those faded lines is a letter showing through from the other side
        as Tichendorf strongly claimed.

        I would have thought examination with a microscope or something might
        shed light on whether the type of scratches made by the original hand
        exist here.
      • WFWarren@aol.com
        We are not too far from Alabama here in New Orleans. Otherwise, I would think the best settings would be in North Carolina either with Bart Ehrman at UNC
        Message 3 of 20 , Mar 15, 2005
          We are not too far from Alabama here in New Orleans.  Otherwise, I would think the best settings would be in North Carolina either with Bart Ehrman at UNC Chapel Hill or at Southeastern Baptist Theological Seminary with Maurice Robinson.  While some other settings may be available, for NT studies these are perhaps the best options near Alabama. 

          paz,

          Bill Warren
          Center for New Testament Textual Studies, Director
          Landrum P. Leavell, II, Professor of NT and Greek
          New Orleans Baptist Theological Seminary
          WWarren@...

          In a message dated 3/15/05 12:21:57 PM, p.j.williams@... writes:




          What institutions are there within the state of Alabama or its surrounding
          states where there are faculty who specialise in textual criticism?

          Thanks,

          P.J. Williams

          ------------
          Dr P.J. Williams
          Lecturer in New Testament
          School of Divinity, History and Philosophy
          University of Aberdeen, AB24 3UB
          p.j.williams@...

          noli esse incredulus sed fidelis IOH. XX xxvii






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        • P.J. Williams
          Thanks to all those who replied re Alabama - roughly confirming my guesses. Still it s good to have confirmation from that side of the pond. I ll advise my
          Message 4 of 20 , Mar 16, 2005
            Thanks to all those who replied re Alabama - roughly confirming my guesses.
            Still it's good to have confirmation from that side of the pond. I'll
            advise my enquirer accordingly.

            Best wishes,

            P.J. Williams

            ------------
            Dr P.J. Williams
            Lecturer in New Testament
            School of Divinity, History and Philosophy
            University of Aberdeen, AB24 3UB
            p.j.williams@...

            noli esse incredulus sed fidelis IOH. XX xxvii
          • P.J. Williams
            Where is the cheapest place to buy the new Vaticanus facsimile? Does anyone know of possibilities below 4500 USD? Best wishes, Pete Williams ... Dr P.J.
            Message 5 of 20 , Jun 3, 2005
              Where is the cheapest place to buy the new Vaticanus facsimile? Does anyone
              know of possibilities below 4500 USD?

              Best wishes,

              Pete Williams

              ------------
              Dr P.J. Williams
              Lecturer in New Testament
              School of Divinity, History and Philosophy
              University of Aberdeen, AB24 3UB
              p.j.williams@...

              noli esse incredulus sed fidelis IOH. XX xxvii
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