RE: [textualcriticism] TC general question
Homeric scholarship is in a flux--as it has been ever since Milman Parry
came up with his oral poetry theory over 70 years ago. But, that being
said, by the time you get to the Alexandrian period there is a bit more
agreement. As far as I know, the majority opinion is still that the
Alexandrian editors did not affect the vulgate text of the Iliad or
Odyssey. The Alexandrians produced their own texts for their needs; the
vulgate text was produced for sale and reading, not analysis in the way
the Alexandrians did it.
But, I'm not convinced that you can compare the case of the Homeric
epics with the biblical text. The cultural settings of the two are
different enough that I doubt the textual transmission would be the
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Subject: Re: [textualcriticism] TC general question
A tangent of the original post, but related to the subject matter, is M.
A. Robinson's claim in the appendix article to his and Pierpont's The
New Testament in the Original Greek: Byzantine Textform, "The Case for
Byzantine Priority" (p. 542-3), that there is a shorter Alexandrian form
of Homer and a longer (perhaps "Western"?) form of Homer, but that the
mainstream Vulgate text did not change much. The critically produced
shorter Alexandrian form could not change the dominant form, and the
longer forms, in the words of Homeric scholar Thomas Allen, "withered of
First, do current Homeric scholars still hold to the basic view of Allen
(and Robinson) above? Second, what do you think of Robinson's analogy
between the Alexandrian critical endeavors upon the classical texts and
those of the New Testament?
Jonathan C. Borland
On Feb 2, 2010, at 4:33 AM, Kevin W. Woodruff wrote:
Yes, P52 dates within 50 years of John's Gospel
Venetus A of Homer's Illiad is dated to about 10th century CE and so is
almost 1800 years after Homer.
The earliest papyrus fragments of the Odyssey are in the 3rd century BC
and Homer lived ca. 850 BCE.
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--- On Mon, 2/1/10, Steve Raine <sp1raine@...> wrote:
From: Steve Raine <sp1raine@...>
Subject: [textualcriticism] TC general question
Date: Monday, February 1, 2010, 2:27 PM
Would it be accurate to say that extant biblical manuscripts
(portions) are closer in date to 'autographs' than those of any