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0187--Uncial or Papyrus?

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  • Daniel
    In reading Wieland s commentary s description of 0187, I see that it is a 6th-century papyrus fragment of Mark 6:30-42 discovered in Egypt. But in fact,
    Message 1 of 2 , May 21, 2009
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      In reading Wieland's commentary's description of 0187, I see that it is a 6th-century papyrus fragment of Mark 6:30-42 discovered in Egypt.

      But in fact, although catalogued as a papyrus (Pap 1354), it is clearly written on parchment:
      http://www.rzuser.uni-heidelberg.de/~gv0/Papyri/VHP_I/003/VHP_I_3_Rekto_(72).html

      Quite a few of the uncials numbered above 0165 seem to have the same problem of being catalogued as a papyrus.

      Daniel Buck
    • Robert Relyea
      ... Even though it s cataloged as papyrus, it s clearly described as parchment: http://www.rzuser.uni-heidelberg.de/~gv0/Papyri/VHP_I/003/VHP_I_3.html
      Message 2 of 2 , May 22, 2009
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        Daniel wrote:
        In reading Wieland's commentary's description of 0187, I see that it is a 6th-century papyrus fragment of Mark 6:30-42 discovered in Egypt.
        
        But in fact, although catalogued as a papyrus (Pap 1354), it is clearly written on parchment:
        http://www.rzuser.uni-heidelberg.de/~gv0/Papyri/VHP_I/003/VHP_I_3_Rekto_(72).html
        
        Quite a few of the uncials numbered above 0165 seem to have the same problem of being catalogued as a papyrus.
          
        Even though it's cataloged as papyrus, it's clearly described as parchment:

        http://www.rzuser.uni-heidelberg.de/~gv0/Papyri/VHP_I/003/VHP_I_3.html

        Pergament Ev Marc 6
        P.Heid. Inv. G 1354    11,5 x 16,7 cm    VII n.Chr.
        Herkunft: Unbekannt
        Abbildung: VHP I Taf. 58a u. 59a
        Berichtigungen:
        Literatur: G. Cavallo, Ricerche sulla maiuscola biblica, Florenz 1967, 82 mit Anm. 3f.; Nestle-Aland 187; Van Haelst, Catalogue 391; van Haelst, Catalogue, Nr. 391; Nestle-Aland 0187; LDAB 1998.2918.

            * Abbildung des Rekto (72 DPI)
            * Abbildung des Rekto (150 DPI)
            * Abbildung des Verso (72 DPI)
            * Abbildung des Verso (150 DPI)

        Zur Übersicht
        Zum Inhalt von VHP I
        Dieter Hagedorn, Thomas Kruse.

        (and google translation for three of us that haven't yet learned German )

        Parchment Marc Ev 6
        P. Heid. Inv. G 1354 11.5 x 16.7 cm VII AD.
        Origin: Unknown
        Figure: VHP I Taf 58a and 59a
        Corrections:
        Literature: G. Cavallo, Ricerche sulla maiuscola Biblica, Florence 1967, 82 with note 3f.; Nestle-Aland 187; Van Haelen, Catalog 391; van Haelen, Catalog No. 391, Nestle-Aland 0187; LDAB 1998.2918.

             * Image of the recto (72 DPI)
             * Image of the recto (150 DPI)
             * Image of verso (72 DPI)
             * Image of verso (150 DPI)

        For an overview
        Contents of VHP I
        Dieter Hagedorn, Thomas Kruse.

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        University catalogs don't always distinguish between the actual material a fragment has been written on in their catalogs. Parchment fragments are occasionally dug up along with  papyrus finds and cataloged with those finds (such as the 8 uncial texts which were dug up from the Oxyrhynchus site and carry P. Oxy numbers - 069, 071, 0162, 0163, 0169, 0170, 0206, and 0308).
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