Re: [textualcriticism] Re: The Gospel Hoax - my opinion
- At 12:37 PM 10/23/2005 +0200, Wieland Willker wrote:
>I am quite busy, so don't have the time to go into details now, but I thinkOn which page did I say that the handwriting was "painted"? I don't believe
>it quite easy to refute most, if not all of Carlson's mini-arguments. Just
>starting at the beginning: To say that the handwriting is "painted" cannot
>be maintained. Compare for example with fig 2b. Is this "painted", too? To
>me the writing of the letter looks quite fluent. I agree that the first two
>TOU look a bit scribbled, this could be something, but it could also be
>caused by something else.
that I used the term that is put into direct quotes above.
It is fair, however, to wonder whether my analysis of the handwriting is
competent. I wondered that too, so I had a professional forensic document
examiner, Julie C. Edison, review my work. Here's what she wrote to me:
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Mr. Carlson asked me a questioned document examiner to help verify his
methods for uncovering the truth.
A professional forensic document examiner since November 1998, I have given
testimony both in the courtroom and in depositions in Maryland,
Virginia, District of Columbia, Connecticut, and Australia. Currently, I am
a member of the Independent Association of Questioned Document Examiners
(IAQDE), and the American College of Forensic Examiners International (ACFEI).
. . .
However, Mr. Carlson has carefully studied the bible of the questioned
document field, Questioned Documents, authored by Albert S. Osborn in 1910
and revised in 1929. The text consists of 36 chapters and with its index
included more than 1,000 pages.
On pages 129 and 365 of Questioned Documents, Mr. Osborn discusses
patching or the creation of letters using more than one stroke. Here, the
writer uses more than one stroke to construct a letter or letter portion.
When patching is present, the writing often appears halting and stilted
rather than natural. And although such strokes would be acceptable for
elderly or ill writers, Osborn writes, patching is a telltale sign of a
Mr. Carlson as well as this examiner found numerous examples of patching
throughout the manuscript in question. He accurately illustrates a few in
Figures 4A, 4B, and 4C of his text.
Mr. Carlson and this examiner also found numerous examples where what
appeared to be connecting letters upon close examination were individual
letters carefully constructed together. In this examiners own case
experience, this trait is prominent in documents where fraudulent signatures
appeared genuine. This examiner has discovered fraudulent signatures that
were carefully constructed using tiny, overlapping pen strokes.
. . .
In my opinion, Mr. Carlsons research into the questioned document field has
been exemplary. My advice to him was to use Albert S. Osborn as a guide in
his quest to disprove the authenticity of this document.
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>The joke was basically that the words I put into your mouth, could also haveThanks for the clarification that it's just a joke. I had connected the
>been spoken by M. Smith.
lawyer's joke playing on the stereotype that lawyers are liars with the
previous comment that the whole book was written as a lawyer would.
>Of the arguments you presented, which one do you consider the strongest?The case is comprehensive, with multiple, diverse strands of evidence
all pointing to the same solution. It does not depend on any particular
argument. The most satisfying part of the case was that I was able to
account for the anomalies of the script with Smith's own handwriting--
in Smith's personal copy of Stählin's edition of Clement of Alexandria
no less. Prosecutors are rarely so fortunate to find a forger's imitation
lapsing into his own hand because professional forgers are usually more
practiced than that. However, it is not strictly necessary to the case
because forgers routinely go to prison without such evidence.
Stephen C. Carlson mailto:scarlson@...
Author of: The Gospel Hoax, http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/1932792481