in the picture, and one of these was the assumption that the windings

were .25 ohms, thus the often cited one ohm resonance value given for

these 4 layer spirals. The resistance meter actually gave those

values, but a later reading of 5 of these sets showed a value of 1.5

ohms, meaning each winding should be .15 ohms, and not .25. The

precedent here for what we can expect when three phase mutual

induction is used to enhance q factors is contained in that cited

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Here again as formerly noted by constructing a bifilar wye for

magnetic agreement, the 1/4 ohm spirals, each having a solitary

impedance of .16 millihenry, have been given 1.8 times that value

acting inductance by the mutual inductance brought on by adjacent

phases of the 3 spirals. The net result is that each spiral sytem has

their Q brought up to 4 by mutual induction, and 4 times less

conduction results then that resistance would allow for the 8.6 volts

across the stator. Thus 32 amps do not develope but only 8 amps( on 3

phases.) Now here then because the loads are in wye, we assume the

1/4 ohm resistance to be at least twice R(int) in that load

application. However the importance of specifying how far the stator

voltage drops from a no load situation, to that of a low resistance

high load situation now gives a new meaning as to specifying the

acting R(int), where it is seen that internal impedance of the source

must also be entering the picture.

What was done here was to wire the spirals in WYE, instead of the

conventional Delta. If we assume that the voltage measurement was

also made across the WYE segments, which I recall doing things that

way during these tests, then what we have here is wye segments acting

with a 1 ohm impedance. Knowing now the true resistance of the

windings themselves to be near .15 ohm, the conduction levels made

indicate that the reactance value is 6.6 times the resistive, thus

the theoretical available q factor would be 6.6. In these

arrangements the fourth wind of two pairs of cable wire are routed to

scope for observation, and this shows a very high mutual induction,

where the voltages on the coils and the scoping are identical! and

amazingly also shows that apparently 3 distinctly timed phases of

magnetic field appear. It is my belief that these phasing differences

would disappear, hence an enhanced mutual induction effect, were

these spiral windings instead resonated at the value of the reactance

found at mutual induction. Thus we can take a sort of shortcut here,

because of this past data where we know know that when the middle

winding is reversed, each of the .15 ohm windings will have a

reactance of 1 ohm. We postulate what value of X(C) will equal that

one ohm, which unfortunately is a vast quantity...

X(C) =1/[2pi*f*C]= 1

6.28*480*C=1

C=[6.28*480]^-1= 3.3 * 10^-4 F = 330 uf.

This is why a single layer approach using these spirals as source

frequency resonators is prohibitive, where I only have about 120 uf

of caps available.

A minimum of 4 spiral layers is necessary to procure enough

inductance to be paired with capacties in the 40 to 50 uf range. Let

us estimate the inductance of the present 4 layer arrangement, where

a parametric 1.59 volts enabled .19 A, this would be Z =8.37 ohms and

if X(L)~ = Z then

X(L) = 2pi*F*L

8.38= 6.28 * 480 *L

L = 2.78 mh

A check of the deviance made by estimating X(L) as Z shows that .6

ohms squared is still small to the same quantity of the 8.37 ohms

suspected as a reactance estimate squared, or only a .5% deviance,

meaning the opposing X(C) value should actually be made .5% under the

acting impedance of 8.37 ohms, which is such a miniscule correction

as to be neglible. In these tests the nameplate values of 45.2 uf

have given a X(C) value of 8.92 ohms, so more capacity can be added

to the circuit.

A calculation of the resonant frequency capacity for 2 .78 mh @

480 hz;

R(F)= 1/[2pi* sq rt {LC}]

First the LC constant is found for 480 hz.

2pi* sq rt {LC}= 1/480 ; sq rt {LC}= 1/[6.28*480]

LC =[1/3014]^2= 1.1 * 10^-7

Dividing by the value of 2.78 mh = 2.78 * 10^-3 H

C= 3.96 * 10^-5 F = 39.6 uf

where X(C) =[6.28*480*.0000396]^-1 = 8.38 ohms in agreement.

So... apparently the 45.2 uf resonance values I have used dont match

up to calculations, so this will be reviewed. To close here we need

to see the cited problems with a scalar WYE, where the windings are

then made with no middle reversed wind, so that the fields are all in

opposition.

Higher Amperage WYE spirals operation.

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When this change was made, the varaic was momentarily turned off, and

when the change made turned back on again at 36 volts. I glanced over

to see 19 amps on the amperage meter! The variac was lowered to 20

volt operation to allow the lower currents. This would normally

produce about 15 volts on the 12 ohm DSR, but here it only appears as

1 volt, enabling 9.74 amps conduction. However the one quarter ohm

loads should only enable only 4 amp conductions on the wye lines, not

over twice that value.

Comment/ since we already know that the resistance was actually .15

ohms, that 1 volt should have enabled only 1/.15 = 6.66 Amps. Here we

see the paradox of attempting to tune such a mutual inductance

arrangement. It is possible some mistake was made about where we

measured the voltages here, so this is also noted for future

reference. The problem is that the currents are in excess to Ohms

law, so a mistake is suspected. If we did try to tune such a circuit,

we realize that the mutual inductance has caused each inductance to

be decreased, thereby lowering each phases Q factor and impedance

levels. The value of Z for this example then is 1 volt enabling 9.74

amps or Z= V/I = 1/9.74 = .102 ohms. As we can see that becomes an

impossible capacity, at least some 3000 uf, where formerly when we

needed 1 ohm of X(C), this required 330 uf for matching.

Thus at least here we conclude that the spiral wye formation gave a

circumstance where the adjacent winding appeared to add current to

that phase by lenz law, and that in actuality this is favorable in

some schemes. Significant here in this experimentation is the fact

that only one spiral wind of reactive output produces the effects of

severely loading down the generator, so that operation in both

agreement, where a 14.5 volt open stator is reduced to a 8 volt/8

amp reactive draw, to the more overloaded situation of magnetic 3

Phase opposition where that 14.5 volt open stator is reduced to a 1

volt WYE impressed emf enabling 9.74 A through the windings.

Since the scalar wye has added current to the windings, one would

expect a delta scalar to do the same effect, but if I recall the

added current is less pronounced for that effect. In fact twice the

parametric short currents exist for a WYE extraction, then does a

delta, if my memory serves correct. The eventual idea for testing a

scalar WYE negative impedance component is that these are wired on

the stator delivery lines themselves, and the applied resonances then

exist in the ordinary delta configuration. thus essentially we have a

line coupled wye delta conversion, but no capacities exist in the WYE

reactance component. There are many combinations available for

reacting 12 windings, which is what is available for a 3 phase 4

layer winding arrangement, which will keep the alternator from being

in this overload regimen.

To end here the cited wind value of .16 mh, would yeild a reactance

of .48 ohms at 480 hz, but here because of three phase mutual

inductance of spirals , it appears near one ohm. The reactance

appeared doubled due to mutual inductance, thus~ half the capacity

normally used will be supected needed for use when the 4 layer spiral

groups are brought into mutual induction.

Sincerely HDN