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  • xp3scorpion
    S..ok let me see if I ve got this, perhaps my methodology isn t simplistic enough. I design a way around the 2% fuel to engine deficiencies inherent in all
    Message 1 of 12 , Nov 27, 2002
      S..ok let me see if I've got this, perhaps my methodology isn't
      simplistic enough.

      I design a way around the 2% fuel to engine deficiencies inherent in
      all automotive designs to date without making any modifications to
      the stock test vehicle, thereby demonstrating the lack of adherence
      to the latent energies contained and accessible within the
      environment, whereby I double the energy output of said test
      vehicle. So we have a 2% fuel consumption equaling a 17 MPG
      distance the test vehicle is capable of traveling, with a negative
      displacement factor of 65% of the total fuel source being consumed
      just braking through the viscosity of the air. 17-MPG at a 2%
      efficiency that's the work the fuel/vehicle is capable of doing.

      Now attach one Ram Implosion Wing to the test vehicle and generate a
      vortex or suction-head. Voila..! You get more work (double the
      distance traveled) out of the vehicle. Over-unity in a real world
      application..

      How dose all this tie into Nikola Tesla..?

      By converting the concept into its electronic equivalencies.

      First and foremost any device that dose not allow for the scavenging
      and recycling of the imputes energy will never achieve a hybrid state
      of energy exchange, its energy enters the environment as a waste
      product and thus will remain a one sided energy exchange from your
      device's output and lost into the environment.

      By comparing an electronic device to that of a fossil fuel motor.
      Where the fossil fuel motor is made to be more efficient by attaching
      a turbo charging "amplification device" to the exhaust whereby the
      lost energy may be recycled thus the impute of energy is raised to a
      higher level of exchange. Scavenging and recycling as is built into
      a common turbo charger must be carried throughout all electronic
      designs and applications otherwise our electronic circuits will
      remain one sided devices incapable of hybrid evolution.

      Robert A. Patterson
      Reverse Engineering Specialist
      Gravitics Among The Ancients
      http://ancientgravitics.tripod.com/






      --- In teslafy@y..., "David Thomson" <dave@v...> wrote:
      > am I not then demonstrating over-unity..?
      >
      > No. You are demonstrating fuel efficiency. To get over unity you
      would
      > have to know the total energy content of the fuel and get more
      energy out of
      > it than the total energy content.
      >
      > Dave
      >
    • David Thomson
      ... You re still just improving the efficiency of the vehicle. You haven t taken 4 joules worth of fuel energy and made it do 5 joules worth of work. ...
      Message 2 of 12 , Nov 27, 2002
        >S..ok let me see if I've got this, perhaps my methodology isn't
        >simplistic enough.

        ...

        >Now attach one Ram Implosion Wing to the test vehicle and generate a
        >vortex or suction-head. Voila..! You get more work (double the
        >distance traveled) out of the vehicle. Over-unity in a real world
        >application..

        You're still just improving the efficiency of the vehicle. You haven't
        taken 4 joules worth of fuel energy and made it do 5 joules worth of work.

        >How dose all this tie into Nikola Tesla..?

        There are those who claim Tesla found a way in the 1930's to use vacuum
        tubes for harnessing energy related to the vacuum. This vacuum energy was
        added to the electrical energy moving a load. Thus the system would have
        over unity. The total energy expended is greater than the energy put into a
        circuit. This extra energy could be used in part to keep the system running
        continuously. The vacuum doesn't count as circuit energy because the vacuum
        isn't officially recognized as something pertaining to the circuit.

        In the fuel system you are referring to you are moving toward unity, not
        passed it.

        >By comparing an electronic device to that of a fossil fuel motor.
        >Where the fossil fuel motor is made to be more efficient by attaching
        >a turbo charging "amplification device" to the exhaust whereby the
        >lost energy may be recycled thus the impute of energy is raised to a
        >higher level of exchange. Scavenging and recycling as is built into
        >a common turbo charger must be carried throughout all electronic
        >designs and applications otherwise our electronic circuits will
        >remain one sided devices incapable of hybrid evolution.

        Recycling energy is energy efficiency. Recycling alone cannot give more
        energy than the energy put into the circuit. In fact, the recycling process
        itself will consume some amount of energy even if just in the form of
        friction.

        The Tesla Pierce Arrow has been theorized by some to actually draw on the
        mechanics of the vacuum for maintaining an electric current. It's like
        running a car with a 100 mph tail wind. It would seem that the car is
        getting overunity if the tail wind was not accounted for. The irony is,
        once Tesla's device is rediscovered, a new mathematics will arise to account
        for the extra mechanical action of the aether and once again overunity will
        be impossible in scientific eyes.

        Dave
      • xp3scorpion
        Great insight on Tesla and his use of the Vacuum thanks that helped to clear up some things for me..! Clearly tho:) we don t see eye to eye on the recycling of
        Message 3 of 12 , Nov 28, 2002
          Great insight on Tesla and his use of the Vacuum thanks that helped
          to clear up some things for me..!

          Clearly tho:) we don't see eye to eye on the recycling of ambient
          environmental energy...

          Robert A. Patterson
          Reverse Engineering Specialist
          Gravitics Among The Ancients
          http://ancientgravitics.tripod.com/








          --- In teslafy@y..., "David Thomson" <dave@v...> wrote:
          > >S..ok let me see if I've got this, perhaps my methodology isn't
          > >simplistic enough.
          >
          > ...
          >
          > >Now attach one Ram Implosion Wing to the test vehicle and generate
          a
          > >vortex or suction-head. Voila..! You get more work (double the
          > >distance traveled) out of the vehicle. Over-unity in a real world
          > >application..
          >
          > You're still just improving the efficiency of the vehicle. You
          haven't
          > taken 4 joules worth of fuel energy and made it do 5 joules worth
          of work.
          >
          > >How dose all this tie into Nikola Tesla..?
          >
          > There are those who claim Tesla found a way in the 1930's to use
          vacuum
          > tubes for harnessing energy related to the vacuum. This vacuum
          energy was
          > added to the electrical energy moving a load. Thus the system
          would have
          > over unity. The total energy expended is greater than the energy
          put into a
          > circuit. This extra energy could be used in part to keep the
          system running
          > continuously. The vacuum doesn't count as circuit energy because
          the vacuum
          > isn't officially recognized as something pertaining to the circuit.
          >
          > In the fuel system you are referring to you are moving toward
          unity, not
          > passed it.
          >
          > >By comparing an electronic device to that of a fossil fuel motor.
          > >Where the fossil fuel motor is made to be more efficient by
          attaching
          > >a turbo charging "amplification device" to the exhaust whereby the
          > >lost energy may be recycled thus the impute of energy is raised to
          a
          > >higher level of exchange. Scavenging and recycling as is built
          into
          > >a common turbo charger must be carried throughout all electronic
          > >designs and applications otherwise our electronic circuits will
          > >remain one sided devices incapable of hybrid evolution.
          >
          > Recycling energy is energy efficiency. Recycling alone cannot give
          more
          > energy than the energy put into the circuit. In fact, the
          recycling process
          > itself will consume some amount of energy even if just in the form
          of
          > friction.
          >
          > The Tesla Pierce Arrow has been theorized by some to actually draw
          on the
          > mechanics of the vacuum for maintaining an electric current. It's
          like
          > running a car with a 100 mph tail wind. It would seem that the car
          is
          > getting overunity if the tail wind was not accounted for. The
          irony is,
          > once Tesla's device is rediscovered, a new mathematics will arise
          to account
          > for the extra mechanical action of the aether and once again
          overunity will
          > be impossible in scientific eyes.
          >
          > Dave
        • xp3scorpion
          Hello I ve been working with a circuit that involves the extraction of ambient energy from the environment via a Cavity QED concept which inductively
          Message 4 of 12 , Nov 29, 2002
            Hello

            I've been working with a circuit that involves the extraction of
            ambient energy from the environment via a Cavity QED concept which
            inductively energizing a Tank Circuit by emitting a static charge via
            fission within the Optical Cavity thereby energizing the Tank
            Circuit. Similar to Tesla's method utilized for radiant energy
            transmission or reception i.e. X-ray tube which he operated form the
            top of his Tesla coils, thereby providing a means to charge the
            elevated condenser plate/antenna. Whenever the terminals are closed
            via rotation with armatures the stored energy would discharge.

            Cavity quantum electrodynamics (cavity QED) may be loosely described
            as the study of atom-field dynamics in the presence of boundaries
            said boundaries collectively constituting a cavity and are
            significant in that they perturb the spatial and/or spectral
            structure and distribution of electromagnetic field modes relative to
            the free-space norm, thereby opening the door to new and unique
            phenomenology.

            A wide range of physical systems fall within the scope of cavity QED.
            At one extreme, we have an isolated atom interacting with a single
            undampened field mode. More realistically, systems may consist of
            atoms and field modes, all of which experience damping due to the
            interaction with one or more reservoir. Phenomena that are
            specifically identified with cavity QED tend to appear in the regime
            of strong atom-cavity coupling i.e., when the interaction of an atom
            with a single cavity photon becomes important.

            Cavity atoms experience significant squeezing under the influence of
            strong driving fields. These squeezing effects are intrinsically
            connected to the polarization of dressed state populations by tuning
            the cavity appropriately close to the atomic transition frequency we
            may induce a non-vanishing inversion of the dressed-state's setting
            the standard for optimal conditions for atomic squeezing

            In the case of an isolated two-level atom, the most important damping
            mechanism is a spontaneous radiative decay. This mechanism is
            associated with the coupling of the atom to the "zero point
            electromagnetic fields" empty-cavity transmission resonance's are
            found to split in the presence of the atoms and under these
            conditions the cavities temporal responses are found to be
            oscillatory. These effects may be viewed as a manifestation of a
            vacuum-field Rabi splitting or as a simple consequence of the linear
            absorption and dispersion of the inter-cavity atoms.

            The problem I encountered with the Optical Waveguide and choke coil
            that I designed was poor craftsmanship due to my lack of experience
            and the lack of access to any milling equipment so I was forced to
            hack the waveguide out by hand. Needless to say I have not been able
            to get the waveguide to function enough to energize the tank circuit
            which consist of a single turn coil loop antenna with 8 strategically
            positioned capacitors and a set of spark gap electrodes.

            Meanwhile

            I have long since contemplated an experiment that would allow me to
            energize the tank circuit thereby circumventing the use of the
            waveguide at least temporally until I could rebuild the Cavity QED
            Waveguide ZPE Inverter..

            Cutting to the Chase..

            Thinking about Tesla I realized that the basic building block that is
            the High Voltage system and choke coil of the TV is Tesla's coil
            idea. We've all noted the static charge near the TV
            screen..right..? So I realized that a TV or PC monitor might make a
            suitable yet temporary replacement and thus be able to transmit a
            static charge into the Tank Circuit antenna coil. By applying
            Tesla's X-ray tube method, utilized for radiant energy transmission
            or reception which he operated form the top of his Tesla coils,
            thereby providing a means to charge the elevated condenser
            plate/antenna.

            Bear in mind that I don't want to build a Tesla Coil per-se I just
            want to use the TV or PC monitor as the static energy source to
            energize the tank circuit because its function is similar to the
            waveguide emitting a static field charge. I happened to open-up a TV
            set the other day and while reading the warring label discovered that
            any picture tube that is operated above the design maximum anode
            voltage may require special shielding precautions against X-ray
            radiation. Thus I deduced that a PC or TV monitor could be
            substituted in place of the Cavity QED Waveguide Inverter
            transmitting an energizing field into the tank circuit antenna
            similar to Tesla's idea.

            Playing around with the idea a little I moved one of my
            Electrogravitic lifters near the screen and it swung towards it. Then
            I turned the TV on and off and when the TV shut off the lifter was
            sucked up to and stuck too the screen and I got shocked with about
            25 thousand volts..! I did that a couple times then switched to
            holding the lifter with an insolated Gator-clip before it got to late
            to play.

            I'm thinking that the only thing missing from the equation of
            implementing the TV or PC monitor as the source of an ionizing field
            may be a set of spark gap electrodes either taped into the existing
            choke coil as a as a rotary gap..? Or as a separate coil wound
            around the existing choke coil with a set of spark gap electrodes or
            maybe only as safety gaps..? Thereby effectively causing the TV or
            PC monitor to act as a transmitter and thus inductively energize the
            tank circuit..

            Suggestions.. Comments?

            Robert A. Patterson
            Reverse Engineering Specialist
            Gravitics Among The Ancients
            http://ancientgravitics.tripod.com/
          • xyme3@aol.com
            In the Wardencliff project Tesla may have utilized a disruptor coil in place of a spark gap. Suggestions of this on most lists have resulted in my emails being
            Message 5 of 12 , Dec 6, 2002
              In the Wardencliff project Tesla may have utilized a disruptor coil in place
              of a spark gap.
              Suggestions of this on most lists have resulted in my emails being rejected.
              Also interesting to note is that a Chinese scientists thinks that electrical
              charge results when (dark matter particles) pass through a moveing conductor
              in the presence of a magnetic field. This would seem to explain how disk
              generators work.
              In relation to your project also, a bifilar coil could act to capture
              radiant energy. I would suggest a four foot diameter bifilar coil connected
              to a source of direct current(Solar cell) ,or maybe alternateing current.One
              of these placed at a higher elevation and one that is shielded or at a lower
              elevation should register a difference of potential. Flow between the
              bifilar coils could be shown to be in excess of the current to which they are
              connected.
              regards, paul
            • xp3scorpion <TSM@brightok.net>
              Thanks Paul, problem is I have very little hands on experience with practical Tesla coil applications i.e. tank circuits but I know exactly what I m looking
              Message 6 of 12 , Dec 6, 2002
                Thanks Paul, problem is I have very little hands on experience with
                practical Tesla coil applications i.e. tank circuits but I know
                exactly what I'm looking for because I have a 6 thousand year old
                schematic that I decoded the Cavity QED waveguide circuitry from.
                The main problem I've encountered is the ancient schematics depict
                some of the components as being energized inductively. These same
                tank/antenna circuits are wired through the antenna to ground but the
                ancient schematics shows the antenna and coil separated with a drift
                region in-between the antenna and the coil, the coil has the spark
                gap electrodes wired into it.

                One of the things I was trying to assertion is if the capacitance is
                stored in the surrounding space outside the antenna or "choke coil".
                If this is true then it could explain the lack of direct connections
                between the antenna and choke coil as well as the lack of capacitors,
                as is depicted by the ancient schematics. Plauson's converter is the
                closest diagram that I could come up with that most resembles the
                circuit depicted by the ancient schematics I decoded
                http://members.tripod.com/ancientgravitics/id22.htm Forth diagram
                down the page. The last diagram on the page is my circuit and here
                is a static model
                http://members.tripod.com/ancientgravitics/id21.htm photo of the
                unit, the circuit progress as you scroll down the page..

                Robert A. Patterson
                Reverse Engineering Specialist
                Gravitics Among The Ancients
                http://ancientgravitics.tripod.com/



                --- In teslafy@yahoogroups.com, xyme3@a... wrote:
                > In the Wardencliff project Tesla may have utilized a disruptor coil
                in place
                > of a spark gap.
                > Suggestions of this on most lists have resulted in my emails being
                rejected.
                > Also interesting to note is that a Chinese scientists thinks that
                electrical
                > charge results when (dark matter particles) pass through a moveing
                conductor
                > in the presence of a magnetic field. This would seem to explain how
                disk
                > generators work.
                > In relation to your project also, a bifilar coil could act to
                capture
                > radiant energy. I would suggest a four foot diameter bifilar coil
                connected
                > to a source of direct current(Solar cell) ,or maybe alternateing
                current.One
                > of these placed at a higher elevation and one that is shielded or
                at a lower
                > elevation should register a difference of potential. Flow between
                the
                > bifilar coils could be shown to be in excess of the current to
                which they are
                > connected.
                > regards, paul
              • xyme3@aol.com
                In a message dated 12/6/2002 11:10:37 PM, TSM@brightok.net writes:
                Message 7 of 12 , Dec 7, 2002
                  In a message dated 12/6/2002 11:10:37 PM, TSM@... writes:

                  <<
                  Thanks Paul, problem is I have very little hands on experience with
                  practical Tesla coil applications i.e. tank circuits but I know
                  exactly what I'm looking for because I have a 6 thousand year old
                  schematic that I decoded the Cavity QED waveguide circuitry from.

                  Do i have a tank circuit for you. In the book by Martain,
                  "Research, Writings and Inventions of Nikola Tesla" A tank
                  circuit is diagramed that contains spark gaps and a
                  disruptor coil.
                  The main problem I've encountered is the ancient schematics depict
                  some of the components as being energized inductively. These same
                  tank/antenna circuits are wired through the antenna to ground but the
                  ancient schematics shows the antenna and coil separated with a drift
                  region in-between the antenna and the coil, the coil has the spark
                  gap electrodes wired into it.

                  Does sound like a Tesla coil.

                  One of the things I was trying to assertion is if the capacitance is
                  stored in the surrounding space outside the antenna or "choke coil".

                  I think you to be correct, however to store large amounts
                  the upper and lower coils must have a thick dielectric. In
                  Tesla's Warden Cliff project a tower was constructed between
                  the lower coil and the 55 ton iron torrid. The upper charge
                  had no place to go so stored considerable voltage. In his project
                  Tesla connected the upper torrid to four oil filled capacitors
                  which measured about a meter cubed.

                  If this is true then it could explain the lack of direct connections
                  between the antenna and choke coil as well as the lack of capacitors,
                  as is depicted by the ancient schematics.

                  A condenser, i am told, is essentially a capacitor.
                  A bifilar coil acts a condenser the amount of capacity
                  geometrically proportional to the size.
                  (A four foot diameter coil would be a capicator capable
                  of storeing almost unbelieveable amounts of charge.)

                  Plauson's converter is the
                  closest diagram that I could come up with that most resembles the
                  circuit depicted by the ancient schematics I decoded
                  http://members.tripod.com/ancientgravitics/id22.htm Forth diagram
                  down the page. The last diagram on the page is my circuit and here
                  is a static model
                  http://members.tripod.com/ancientgravitics/id21.htm photo of the
                  unit, the circuit progress as you scroll down the page..
                  >>

                  >To get RGA-3 to resonate pulses of energy have to be fed at just the right
                  rate and frequency. A good analogy is that of a bell. To get the bell to ring
                  you need to tap it with a hammer. If you tap too hard you can crack the bell
                  and if you tap and hold the hammer on the bell too long you don't get a clean
                  pure tone out of the bell.<

                  The above is an extraction from the web page you mention. In
                  the Tesla Warden cliff project pulses of energy are fed in at
                  different rates, somewhat analagous to several persons with
                  different size hammers tapping on a bell. My opinion of what
                  happens is that multiple overlapping frequencies are produced,
                  each separate frequency being stored in the form of an oscillation.

                  > It is at this zero-point where energy is condensed into positive and
                  negative components of current.  When energy escapes from the "sink" the
                  magnetic field collapses and a strong magnetic quake is created in its wake.
                   A properly tuned system can capture and convert radiant energy in such a
                  prescribed arrangement. <
                  A bifilar coil also acts as an electromagnet.
                  If you notice, large flatspiral coils are depicted in the
                  Tesla diagrams on methods of transmitting electrical
                  energy where two coils are tuned as transmitter
                  and reciever. A bifilar coil can also be wound on
                  a parabolic surface.
                  I will try at some point to send a diagram or page
                  numbers on some of Tesla's windings and tank circuits.
                  paul
                • xp3scorpion <TSM@brightok.net>
                  Paul Actually, I have two spiral or pan-cake coils 6 inches in diameter each, which are the feeder ends to my delta antenna and tandem beat frequency radio
                  Message 8 of 12 , Dec 8, 2002
                    Paul

                    Actually, I have two spiral or pan-cake coils 6 inches in diameter
                    each, which are the feeder ends to my delta antenna and tandem beat
                    frequency radio cavities. A single turn coil inductor loop 2 feet by
                    6 inches in diameter, said single turn coil inductor/loop antenna is
                    the tank circuit and/or the spark gap transmitter. The tank circuit
                    has 8 variable capacitors strategically positioned around its
                    circumference.

                    The thing that was boggling my mind was the fact that I use an
                    antenna similar to the Plauson's converter only in my circuit I
                    employ an Resanent Optical Waveguide Antenna which is supposed to
                    resonate the ferrite bead choke coil inductor via far field
                    radiation.? Said choke coil inductor has 4 sets of spark gap
                    electrodes positioned around the circumference of the coil located at
                    12, 3, 6, & 9 o-clock positions. Plauson's converter is identical to
                    mine except that Plauson's converter is wired directly to the coil
                    with the capacitors and spark gap electrodes preceding the coil.
                    Where as my coil and antenna are separated by a drift region as per
                    the ancient schematics.

                    So I was trying to ascertain if my waveguide antenna and coil circuit
                    should be wired the same as the Plauson's converter of if in fact it
                    could be energized inductively via the far field radiation emission
                    of the resanent waveguide..? The only indication of capacitors I
                    have from the ancient schematics are some lumped element symbols
                    located on the waveguide antenna itself but other then that there
                    is "no" other indication that the waveguide and the ferrite bead
                    choke coil has hard wired connections as indicated by the gap or
                    drift region between the coil and the antenna that I translated from
                    the ancient schematics.

                    Although, it is possible that I may be looking at the circuit from
                    the wrong perspective. Believing that the waveguide antenna
                    energizes the entire circuit solely on its own is a-kin to a brute
                    force concept which would be incorrect. I keep thing that I should
                    get one set of components to work at a time but it may be that the
                    circuit only works when it is complete and the parabolic dish is
                    combined into the circuit as the dish would cause the impulse of
                    energy focused or bouncing away from the disk antenna in the form of
                    a helical or vortex thereby imploding or pulling the energy through
                    the circuit vs. being pushed solely from the waveguide antenna..?

                    Robert A. Patterson
                    Reverse Engineering Specialist
                    Gravitics Among The Ancients
                    http://ancientgravitics.tripod.com/




                    --- In teslafy@yahoogroups.com, xyme3@a... wrote:
                    >
                    > In a message dated 12/6/2002 11:10:37 PM, TSM@b... writes:
                    >
                    > <<
                    > Thanks Paul, problem is I have very little hands on experience with
                    > practical Tesla coil applications i.e. tank circuits but I know
                    > exactly what I'm looking for because I have a 6 thousand year old
                    > schematic that I decoded the Cavity QED waveguide circuitry from.
                    >
                    > Do i have a tank circuit for you. In the book by Martain,
                    > "Research, Writings and Inventions of Nikola Tesla" A tank
                    > circuit is diagramed that contains spark gaps and a
                    > disruptor coil.
                    > The main problem I've encountered is the ancient schematics depict
                    > some of the components as being energized inductively. These same
                    > tank/antenna circuits are wired through the antenna to ground but
                    the
                    > ancient schematics shows the antenna and coil separated with a
                    drift
                    > region in-between the antenna and the coil, the coil has the spark
                    > gap electrodes wired into it.
                    >
                    > Does sound like a Tesla coil.
                    >
                    > One of the things I was trying to assertion is if the capacitance
                    is
                    > stored in the surrounding space outside the antenna or "choke
                    coil".
                    >
                    > I think you to be correct, however to store large amounts
                    > the upper and lower coils must have a thick dielectric. In
                    > Tesla's Warden Cliff project a tower was constructed between
                    > the lower coil and the 55 ton iron torrid. The upper charge
                    > had no place to go so stored considerable voltage. In his project
                    > Tesla connected the upper torrid to four oil filled capacitors
                    > which measured about a meter cubed.
                    >
                    > If this is true then it could explain the lack of direct
                    connections
                    > between the antenna and choke coil as well as the lack of
                    capacitors,
                    > as is depicted by the ancient schematics.
                    >
                    > A condenser, i am told, is essentially a capacitor.
                    > A bifilar coil acts a condenser the amount of capacity
                    > geometrically proportional to the size.
                    > (A four foot diameter coil would be a capicator capable
                    > of storeing almost unbelieveable amounts of charge.)
                    >
                    > Plauson's converter is the
                    > closest diagram that I could come up with that most resembles the
                    > circuit depicted by the ancient schematics I decoded
                    > http://members.tripod.com/ancientgravitics/id22.htm Forth diagram
                    > down the page. The last diagram on the page is my circuit and here
                    > is a static model
                    > http://members.tripod.com/ancientgravitics/id21.htm photo of the
                    > unit, the circuit progress as you scroll down the page..
                    > >>
                    >
                    > >To get RGA-3 to resonate pulses of energy have to be fed at just
                    the right
                    > rate and frequency. A good analogy is that of a bell. To get the
                    bell to ring
                    > you need to tap it with a hammer. If you tap too hard you can crack
                    the bell
                    > and if you tap and hold the hammer on the bell too long you don't
                    get a clean
                    > pure tone out of the bell.<
                    >
                    > The above is an extraction from the web page you mention. In
                    > the Tesla Warden cliff project pulses of energy are fed in at
                    > different rates, somewhat analagous to several persons with
                    > different size hammers tapping on a bell. My opinion of what
                    > happens is that multiple overlapping frequencies are produced,
                    > each separate frequency being stored in the form of an oscillation.
                    >
                    > > It is at this zero-point where energy is condensed into positive
                    and
                    > negative components of current.  When energy escapes from
                    the "sink" the
                    > magnetic field collapses and a strong magnetic quake is created in
                    its wake.
                    >  A properly tuned system can capture and convert radiant energy in
                    such a
                    > prescribed arrangement. <
                    > A bifilar coil also acts as an electromagnet.
                    > If you notice, large flatspiral coils are depicted in the
                    > Tesla diagrams on methods of transmitting electrical
                    > energy where two coils are tuned as transmitter
                    > and reciever. A bifilar coil can also be wound on
                    > a parabolic surface.
                    > I will try at some point to send a diagram or page
                    > numbers on some of Tesla's windings and tank circuits.
                    > paul
                  • xyme3@aol.com
                    In a message dated 12/8/2002 6:41:19 AM, TSM@brightok.net writes:
                    Message 9 of 12 , Dec 9, 2002
                      In a message dated 12/8/2002 6:41:19 AM, TSM@... writes:

                      << Robert, replies are included below.


                      >Actually, I have two spiral or pan-cake coils 6 inches in diameter

                      each, which are the feeder ends to my delta antenna and tandem beat

                      frequency radio cavities. A single turn coil inductor loop 2 feet by

                      6 inches in diameter, said single turn coil inductor/loop antenna is

                      the tank circuit and/or the spark gap transmitter. The tank circuit

                      has 8 variable capacitors strategically positioned around its

                      circumference.


                      The thing that was boggling my mind was the fact that I use an

                      antenna similar to the Plauson's converter only in my circuit I

                      employ an Resanent Optical Waveguide Antenna which is supposed to

                      resonate the ferrite bead choke coil inductor via far field

                      radiation.? Said choke coil inductor has 4 sets of spark gap

                      electrodes positioned around the circumference of the coil located at

                      12, 3, 6, & 9 o-clock positions. Plauson's converter is identical to

                      mine except that Plauson's converter is wired directly to the coil

                      with the capacitors and spark gap electrodes preceding the coil.

                      Where as my coil and antenna are separated by a drift region as per

                      the ancient schematics.


                      So I was trying to ascertain if my waveguide antenna and coil circuit

                      should be wired the same as the Plauson's converter of if in fact it

                      could be energized inductively via the far field radiation emission

                      of the resanent waveguide..? <

                      I am not sufficiently versed in some of the material
                      you mention to comment.However i will continue to look into the
                      field. I do know bifilar coils, since they form an electromagnet,
                      can be energized inductively.


                      >The only indication of capacitors I

                      have from the ancient schematics are some lumped element symbols

                      located on the waveguide antenna itself but other then that there

                      is "no" other indication that the waveguide and the ferrite bead

                      choke coil has hard wired connections as indicated by the gap or

                      drift region between the coil and the antenna that I translated from

                      the ancient schematics.<

                      One primative form of capacitor is a brass plug capacitor. Simply
                      a brass (or is it bronze) plug suspended in oil. Another capacitor
                      which stores large amounts of either direct or alternateing
                      current is an oil filled plate capacitor.


                      >Although, it is possible that I may be looking at the circuit from

                      the wrong perspective. Believing that the waveguide antenna

                      energizes the entire circuit solely on its own is a-kin to a brute

                      force concept which would be incorrect. I keep thing that I should

                      get one set of components to work at a time but it may be that the

                      circuit only works when it is complete and the parabolic dish is

                      combined into the circuit as the dish would cause the impulse of

                      energy focused or bouncing away from the disk antenna in the form of

                      a helical or vortex thereby imploding or pulling the energy through

                      the circuit vs. being pushed solely from the waveguide antenna..?>

                      Not sure percisely how the afore mentioned device would work,
                      however i know Tesla proposed the collection of cosmic rays
                      indicateing that high speed particles moving near light speeds
                      would regularly pass through the earth. This has been confirmed
                      by recent tests where dry cleaning solvent is stored deep beneath
                      the earth, and is altered when these particles pass through.
                      The energy released if one of the particles could be stopped or
                      at least slowed by magnetic field would be tremendous.
                      Paul



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