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  • harvich
    As mentioned the water arc gap in fast duration form, means that every time the arc hits the water, it will be recorded as a rf burst by the reciever inductor.
    Message 1 of 1 , Jan 25, 2002
      As mentioned the water arc gap in fast duration form, means that
      every time the arc hits the water, it will be recorded as a rf burst
      by the reciever inductor. Because it is thought that since the
      windings lightning 4 inch neons in one ended manner, the voltage is
      too high to directly scope monitor. Instead a square coil of 20 by 30
      spiral bifilar winds is used as a monitor of the EM around the bulbs.
      These coils will ring at ~31,250 hz, a reduction of its quarter
      wavelenth value made by interwinding capacitance.
      Dual single ended discharge with 4 inch bulbs
      shows the square coil around the bulbs as a scope sensor.

      The volume of EM from the bulbs is actually greatest near the neon
      voltage firing point and become reduced with further intensity of the
      neon disharge. At full 440 volt application the rf bursts are
      excessive, this is when the magnet will crackle, and prodigious ozone
      is created, by the 30 fold voltage difference of that 440 input made
      with each coils 15 q factor being made in opposite polarities at 60
      hz resonance.

      Now the violet arcing on TRG homepage is not made the same way, at a
      high arcing rate, but a comparatively much lower rate, where the
      energy build up can suddenly release itself when a short path is made
      across the surface of the water. There was also a magnet under the
      glass when these arcing pictures were made. The presence of the
      opposite electrode in the water creates a short path possibility,
      which does not occur in the simple surface water arcing shown here as
      the strikes per 60 hz cycle,because the opposite electrode is then
      the plate connection, not contained in the water as a pathway, (and
      as the sensor records it through space from the neon/magnet winding)
      Surface Water Arc Gap
      Note that strikes are more effective in one polarity, presumably when
      the electrons are leaving the needle in that polarity of the cycle.
      Note also that the shape of the 60 hz cycle is not prominant.
      Arcless metal/water/glass contact between potentials
      Shows the signal obtained with needle immersion into water, thus an
      arcless method of interposing differing dielectrics, and getting high
      vibrations without arc. Note the more cohered nature of the rf bursts
      Arcless/ 12 rf bursts/ 60 hz sweep
      shows that the polarity issue is better resolved as each polarities
      vibration is much more in resemblance.

      Excessive Ringdowns per 60 hz sweeping
      Shows how the EM is reduced in voltage, and we do not get a
      corresponding higher voltage signal from the sensor when the voltage
      to the device is increased, even though the illumination of the neon
      is increased by this practice. The signal does take on more of a 60
      hz shape at the higher voltage levels

      At the lower voltage levels by variac operation the ringdowns can
      appear as a very low succession of added signal traces as we turn the
      variac up. The can become stable, or frozen on the scope form. This
      is also the damping action added by the magnet, where the magnet
      unboubtably does amplify the voltage that would exist on windings on
      the space. Now it is known that the magnet does only increase the
      inductance of thsoe windings 50%, but it might also reduce the
      resonant frequency of those windings, much more then 50%, where this
      combined with the second return wire method appears to deliver good
      results in these cases. The magnet windings themselves were not well
      acting with alternator inputs, until I accidentally touched the wire
      in operation, which lit both of us up quite well!
      Solid rf patterns at lower voltage application

      When I say that a magnet acts like a neon, it is because it takes a
      certain voltage threshold, before the one ended spring action of the
      magnet takes place. You do not get magnet vibration in this 60 hz
      case by using both opposite polarity connections to both opposite
      pole faces, but only one polarity side in magnet contact. As you
      slowly increase the vibration, the number of traces do not get added
      incrementally, but several at a time. It more appears like the action
      of quanta of energy packets.
      It is the higher than 2 rf bursts per cycle that cause these varying
      ringdowns to appear at the actual higher frequency sweeps used to
      view the ringdowns.

      Multitracing in excessive ringdowns at 5us/div

      This also shows a pardoxical effect that takes place in how the
      sensor/scope interpretes the information differently than we might
      expect it to. If we turn the voltage selection down to display a
      waveform that should go off screen,(with these rf signals) instead of
      the voltage deflection producing that effect, twice as many rf traces
      appear, as if a certain amount of energy was instead showing a
      discrete effect, where instead of more operationally commanded higher
      voltage deflection taking place, instead we get more electron beams
      to deflect!
      The same effect is also seen with changing the sweep rate, where
      reducing it to see more of the total ringdown, will reduce the number
      of traces that appear. A mutitraced ringdown can also sum to, or
      appear as a single hf ringdown trace at much higher voltage selection
      levels.(if your higher voltage selection beam isnt disabled, as in
      present conditions)

      In other current work with the spirals there appears to have been a
      mistake with reporting a low 30,000 hz range for the 200 ft length,
      where some pretty problematic things are being shown. Scope tracings
      at higher voltage selection levels have completely vanished, and
      problems with making measurements will be noted. The frequencies that
      appear cannot be given with a low BPS rate, since the input
      frequency is already 480 hz. Try to make a posting on this later. HDN
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