- The measured 1 nf ferrite capacitor being tested is rectangular

dominoe stacked arrangement of 9 inch length, with 1 7/8 inch

separation between aluminum foil plates, wrapped with saran wrap for

adhesion of plates to ferrite, with 7/8 inch width of plates, for

future Area of plates and dielectric constant calculations derived

from this A/d ratio.. There is small variance between horiz and

vertical configuration, due to pressure against plates ect, so here

this is only average values posted as data, as we can say the ferrite

cap is ~ 1 nf, where this is tested horiz for convenience.

Previously the 1 nf ferrite was placed as a sample in series with a

60 henry coil for resonance, and none was observed, indicating that

the ferrite is only acting as resistance, with no component of

capacitive reactance that should resonate with that coil.

3 coil set up of these high induction coils on a heavy table is set

to original arrangement of two 60.1 henry coils , where this one was

used for a test, and also one at 57.9 henry. Mutual inductance is

neglected for now. The smaller henry coil in the past has shown a

disproportional better reactance consumption, which is duely noted

again for future comparisons. But here the 60 henry coils reactance

at 355,000 ohms given the 480 hz input means that 1 nf is the CORRECT

capacity to be using in this arragement, where the same capacity more

finely tuned at 1.08 nf plexiglass capacity would deliver an 8 fold Q

voltage rise and concommitant higher 8 fold amperage conduction. It

is the actual measurements of amperage conduction in higher voltage

cases that then serves as a indicator for the actual voltage rise

when it cannot be conveniently be measured. So here the 60 henries

coil conduction of 1.8 ma @ 640 volt input again verifies that its

impedance appears to be the higher value of 355,000 ohms, and again

experiments have also verified that this equal reactance made

capacitively is the correct one to resonate to. But the ferrite here

appears impossible to resonate given the proper standards, where in

fact a resonance of the material has already been done to some

degree, or that WAS the consensus of fact.

Resorting to cussing words goes into momentary delerium with the

typical Irish expresssion of rage when theories dont match results,

so that goes into the account also. But here it is realized that if

this high reactance is not capacitive, now judged in relation to be

only resitive, it should be shown then be compared to a known

inductive reactance in series. For this, a value of one of the 14

gauge of the DSR coils is chosen which typically exhibits 10-11 mh

and ~ 1.2 ohms.

LCR Meter not handy in post corroboration, so estimations of coil

given. 14 gauge coil placed across solitary DSR midpoints(@12 volts

stator) yeilds 2.43 volts yeiding a 27.7 ma conduction across coil.

This is the coil that gets placed in series with the ferrite cap

under identical stator voltage. Now the coil itself seems to show a

little variance as to what might be suspected. The resistive

quantity Z establishes ~ 87.7 ohms as a conduction estimated to be

primarily due to inductive reactance, where the low resistance has

little effect on that conduction primarily limited by the coils

inductive reactance.

In comparison the ferrite part was also tested again, soltary to DSR

input.. A 10 minute test was made with turn on showing 240 volts

across part making a 19 ma conduction on turn on, and midpoint

voltage reduced to 208 volts making a 23.5 ma conduction at end of

test, with 13 to 14 volt stator rise of voltage by increased

conductivity of interphasal pathway, also higher impedance seen by

stator source,( ect a category of wide stator voltage over time made

by improper cap filter value, and 120 pulse/sec interaction) Now the

stator voltage was turned up to the higher 40 volt levels again to

show the non- linear ferrite conduction which became 83 ma at

impressed 226 volts after some running time. This gives the first

resistive figure to be attained for in comparison tests where that

impedance would be 226/.083= 2627 ohms. The the voltage was turned

back to former levels, where then the currents were reduced to 21.6

ma, but only with 156 volts appearing across the midpoints.(Ferrite

conductivity also returns to former levels slowly) That would be an

acting impedance of over 7000 ohms, used for a better than actual

conduction for comparison at the standard voltage conduction levels

noted as 12 volts. The standard voltage given identical rectified

variac voltage input varies with impedance loads to a semi wide

degree, but large variances dont cotton to small ones.

Heating was now observed on the opposite ends of ferrite piece

lengthwise, from where formerly this was nearest to the wire

connections with the cylindrical part formerly tested. A standing

wave exibiting conduction is localized on the part, similar to a

tesla coil secondary.

Now when the 11 mh inductive reactance, but very low resistance near

1.2 ohms, is placed across the solitary DSR midpoint, there is a

CERTAIN THEORY OF COMMON SENSE that should be in evidence.

The "theory of Common Sense" states that an interior branchway must

be "current limited by impedance" by the branches that serve it.

Unfortunately in my case, some great errors must have been made,

since the ways and means of manufacturing the heretical principle

seem possible. But here the volume of a "solitary delta short

current" is about 35 MA, where formerly this was noted about 6 ma

when all three of them were delta shorted, with equal stator voltage

input.

Whether, one, two or three are shorted also means possible variances

of action: like a puzzle the start is from the beginning. The

illogical procurement of current in a branch by adding reactance or

resistance to that branch, where it then delivers more amperage on

that branch than would exist if a short were there; generally might

be attributed to errors in measurement, or some other disclaimer, as

such a thing does not readily seem possible, and the deceptions of

using two of three phases, or total perpective being lost would seem

to be possible.

The ferrite 1 nf (supposed by past definitions!) part placed in

series with the 11 mh coil on turn on conducts 13 ma. time tested

later rise to 18.5 ma with 220 volts across L/ferrite. Compared to

the former solitary 27.7 ma conduction made at equal stator voltages,

we have concluded the majority of that current was due to inductive

reactance, and not resistance, due to registered impedance as the

only real world observation to be observed as real acting components,

versus ideal.

The definition of a reactive component displaying a 45 degree phase

angle is often considerate to those who made the definition. That is

the case when X(L)=R. While not appearing as an obvious statement, it

should be. It means that practically all assumed statements where it

is made that the current is 90 degrees out of phase with the voltage

in a reactive circuit are rendered as a decision made relatively to a

lower court, NOT brought to a higher court by reasoning. The higher

court is like the outer DSR, that limits the current across its

interphasal branches by impedance of the reactive components in that

tank sharing line.

So here it is shown alone that a inductive reactance of 78 ohms will

allow 27.7 ma conduction with 2.45 volts appearing as its load by

higher court. Alone the ferrite will be allowed a similar conduction

with 23.5 ma conduction at 208 volts,roughly a Q fold higher voltage

vs conduction. Together in series they exibit 18.5 ma @ 220 volts,

thus~ the conduction ratio18.5/27.7= ~.666

Thus 1/3 more impedance has been added to the load, if one third less

conduction results. But I am also looking into these mathematical

practices of malfeasance! In any case by that reasoning the

conclusion becomes the fact that the ferrite only acts as 78/3= 26

ohms when placed in series with the coil. But when it is by itself it

can be 7000 to 2000, depending how hard the issue is pressed. Talk

about a grid current?

Thus we are hard pressed to present a possible new reactance

coordinate in three dimensions to explain these actions, if need be

so.

Sincerely HDN - --- In teslafy@yahoogroups.com, "harvich" <harvich@y...> wrote:
> The measured 1 nf ferrite capacitor being tested is rectangular

of plates,

> dominoe stacked arrangement of 9 inch length,, with 7/8 inch width

(SNIPPICH)

But here it is realized that if> this high reactance is not capacitive, now judged in relation to be

DSR

> only resitive, it should be shown then be compared to a known

> inductive reactance in series. For this, a value of one of the 14

> gauge of the DSR coils is chosen which typically exhibits 10-11 mh

> and ~ 1.2 ohms.

>

> LCR Meter not handy in post corroboration, so estimations of coil

> given. 14 gauge coil placed across solitary DSR midpoints(@12 volts

> stator) yeilds 2.43 volts yeiding a 27.7 ma conduction across coil.

> This is the coil that gets placed in series with the ferrite cap

> under identical stator voltage. Now the coil itself seems to show a

> little variance as to what might be suspected. The resistive

> quantity Z establishes ~ 87.7 ohms as a conduction estimated to be

> primarily due to inductive reactance, where the low resistance has

> little effect on that conduction primarily limited by the coils

> inductive reactance.

>

> In comparison the ferrite part was also tested again, soltary to

> input.. A 10 minute test was made with turn on showing 240 volts

made

> across part making a 19 ma conduction on turn on, and midpoint

> voltage reduced to 208 volts making a 23.5 ma conduction at end of

> test, with 13 to 14 volt stator rise of voltage by increased

> conductivity of interphasal pathway, also higher impedance seen by

> stator source,( ect a category of wide stator voltage over time

> by improper cap filter value, and 120 pulse/sec interaction) Now

the

> stator voltage was turned up to the higher 40 volt levels again to

near

> show the non- linear ferrite conduction which became 83 ma at

> impressed 226 volts after some running time. This gives the first

> resistive figure to be attained for in comparison tests where that

> impedance would be 226/.083= 2627 ohms. The the voltage was turned

> back to former levels, where then the currents were reduced to 21.6

> ma, but only with 156 volts appearing across the midpoints.(Ferrite

> conductivity also returns to former levels slowly) That would be an

> acting impedance of over 7000 ohms, used for a better than actual

> conduction for comparison at the standard voltage conduction levels

> noted as 12 volts. The standard voltage given identical rectified

> variac voltage input varies with impedance loads to a semi wide

> degree, but large variances dont cotton to small ones.

>

> Heating was now observed on the opposite ends of ferrite piece

> lengthwise, from where formerly this was nearest to the wire

> connections with the cylindrical part formerly tested. A standing

> wave exibiting conduction is localized on the part, similar to a

> tesla coil secondary.

>

> Now when the 11 mh inductive reactance, but very low resistance

> 1.2 ohms, is placed across the solitary DSR midpoint, there is a

Note; specifying a short current without specifying the stator

> CERTAIN THEORY OF COMMON SENSE that should be in evidence.

> The "theory of Common Sense" states that an interior branchway must

> be "current limited by impedance" by the branches that serve it.

> Unfortunately in my case, some great errors must have been made,

> since the ways and means of manufacturing the heretical principle

> seem possible. But here the volume of a "solitary delta short

> current" is about 35 MA,

voltage is useless, but from context here I think the operating

voltage here may have been near 12 volts, where the former estimate

at 20 volts was 88 ma obtainable by short, so this figure seems near

correct from projections...

where formerly this was noted about 6 ma> when all three of them were delta shorted, with equal stator

voltage

> input.

variances

>

> Whether, one, two or three are shorted also means possible

> of action: like a puzzle the start is from the beginning. The

or

> illogical procurement of current in a branch by adding reactance

> resistance to that branch, where it then delivers more amperage on

as

> that branch than would exist if a short were there; generally might

> be attributed to errors in measurement, or some other disclaimer,

> such a thing does not readily seem possible, and the deceptions of

seem

> using two of three phases, or total perpective being lost would

> to be possible.

voltages,

>

> The ferrite 1 nf (supposed by past definitions!) part placed in

> series with the 11 mh coil on turn on conducts 13 ma. time tested

> later rise to 18.5 ma with 220 volts across L/ferrite. Compared to

> the former solitary 27.7 ma conduction made at equal stator

> we have concluded the majority of that current was due to inductive

components,

> reactance, and not resistance, due to registered impedance as the

> only real world observation to be observed as real acting

> versus ideal.

is

>

> The definition of a reactive component displaying a 45 degree phase

> angle is often considerate to those who made the definition. That

> the case when X(L)=R. While not appearing as an obvious statement,

it

> should be. It means that practically all assumed statements where

it

> is made that the current is 90 degrees out of phase with the

voltage

> in a reactive circuit are rendered as a decision made relatively to

a

> lower court, NOT brought to a higher court by reasoning. The higher

that

> court is like the outer DSR, that limits the current across its

> interphasal branches by impedance of the reactive components in

> tank sharing line.

will

>

> So here it is shown alone that a inductive reactance of 78 ohms

> allow 27.7 ma conduction with 2.45 volts appearing as its load by

conduction

> higher court. Alone the ferrite will be allowed a similar

> with 23.5 ma conduction at 208 volts,roughly a Q fold higher

voltage

> vs conduction. Together in series they exibit 18.5 ma @ 220 volts,

less

> thus~ the conduction ratio18.5/27.7= ~.666

>

> Thus 1/3 more impedance has been added to the load, if one third

> conduction results. But I am also looking into these mathematical

it

> practices of malfeasance! In any case by that reasoning the

> conclusion becomes the fact that the ferrite only acts as 78/3= 26

> ohms when placed in series with the coil. But when it is by itself

> can be 7000 to 2000, depending how hard the issue is pressed. Talk

> about a grid current?

>

> Thus we are hard pressed to present a possible new reactance

> coordinate in three dimensions to explain these actions, if need be

> so.

>

> Sincerely HDN