Fwd: Tesla - Marconi stealing Tesla's radio patents?
- I don't know how true the following is, but it is interesting:
Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 18:11:01 -0000
From: "floyd_of_the_flies" <floyd_of_the_flies@...>
Subject: Re: - is there really free energy?
But no patent is truly safe, as Tesla's career demonstrates. In 1900,
the Marconi Wireless Telegraph Company, Ltd. began thriving in the
stock marketsdue primarily to Marconi's family connections with
English aristocracy. British Marconi stock soared from $3 to $22 per
share and the glamorous young Italian nobleman was internationally
acclaimed. Both Edison and Andrew Carnegie invested in Marconi and
Edison became a consulting engineer of American Marconi. Then, on
December 12, 1901, Marconi for the first time transmitted and received
signals across the Atlantic Ocean.
Otis Pond, an engineer then working for Tesla, said, "Looks as if
Marconi got the jump on you." Tesla replied, "Marconi is a good
fellow. Let him continue. He is using seventeen of my patents."
But Tesla's calm confidence was shattered in 1904, when the U.S.
Patent Office suddenly and surprisingly reversed its previous
decisions and gave Marconi a patent for the invention of radio. The
reasons for this have never been fully explained, but the powerful
financial backing for Marconi in the United States suggests one
On June 21, 1943 the Supreme Court of the United States held the
broad claims of Guglielmo Marconi's patent for improvements in
apparatus for wireless telegraphy to be invalid. First written for
publication by the Antique Wireless Association, this monograph shows
how the nation's high court arrived at its decision. It provides an
answer to the continuing argument regarding the popular
that Marconi invented radio.
So for 39 Years the USPO acted as if Tesla Prior inventions did not
--- In Sightings@yahoogroups.com, "Steven R. Elswick"
> Your ignorance on this topic shows in the statement that he cededfame for
> inventing the radio to Marconi. Absolutely, unequivocally false.There are
> at least four books on Tesla's testimony during the lawsuit againstMarconi.
> The US Supreme Court settled the issue six months after Tesla'sdeath ruling
> in Tesla's favor.project
> Furthermore, Tesla embarked on the wirelesss transmission of power
> when he was 44. Evidently you haven't read any of Tesla's writingson the
> matter as he definitely wasn't using Hertzian waves,THAT IS CATEGORICALLY WRONG. ANY EM WAVES are "HERZIAN" as
from Maxwells equations.
and no less an
> authority agreed with Tesla after Tesla presented the idea in person.want, it
> Finally, Tesla stated cosmic rays could provide mankind with all of its
> power needs. Hide behind mathematical mumbo jumbo all you
> you nowhere if you don't have the physical parameters correct tobegin with.
> While you want to use equations that fit electromagnetic waves tojustify
> your argument, the fact is that we aren't dealing withelectromagnetic waves
> here, so your point is nonsensical.certainly is
> I DO KNOW BETTER! Dust rag it may be, ExtraOrdinary Technology
> unsuitable for those who cannot read plain English and have tunnelvision.
> In fact I'd advise you not to get it because I don't want to beresponsible
> for the apoplectic fits you have when confronted with the truth.the
> Steve Elswick -- steve@t...
> Publisher/Editor - ExtraOrdinary Technology
> 520-463-1994 - http://www.teslatech.info
> -----Original Message-----
> From: floyd_of_the_flies [mailto:floyd_of_the_flies@y...]
> Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2003 10:09 PM
> To: Sightings@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [Sightings] Re: - is there really free energy?
> Tesla was a trained engineer, He was one of the first to really
> understand Maxwell's equations. Tesla was the inventor of most of
> semenal technology of what we call AC current. He was also the firstpower
> inventor of Radio, but he did have the time or the inclination to
> patent it, ceeding the fame to Marconi.
> In his old age he did go off the deep end and tried to broadcast
> wasting hundreds of thousands of dollars and eventually running outof
> money. Any real engineer would realize that this venture wasdoomed
> because the radio waves would escape to space waste most of thepower.
> Even for Tesla, not one of his latter hair brained scemes involve free
> energy. He was well aquinted with the laws of nature that prevent
> As an engineer you should be able to convert electron volts to joules.
> One eV = 1.602 x 10-19 joules. Using the uploaded gif
> essentiall the same picuture is in
> Lets say you had a 1 square meter device that had a 100%
> efficiency of cosmic rays to electrical power. Integrating the curveBETTER!
> gives you about 10^-6 Joules per square meter/second. That is the
> TOTAL energy! it is much less than the thermal energy and certainly
> less than the 100 watts or so you can get from one square meter of
> solar cells.
> Try an make a car go with 10-6 watts!
> "ExtraOrdinary Technology" must be a dust rag. You SHOULD KNOW
> --- In Sightings@yahoogroups.com, "Steven R. Elswick"
> <edwin.robinson@m...> wrote:
> > Yes I am a real BSEE, and Tesla would totally disagree with
> everything you
> > said in the statement. In fact, he did so IN WRITING, but then
> I doubtknown
> > you ever did read much of Tesla's writings or you would have
> that nowcosmic ray
> > wouldn't you have. Even more so to the point, in our latest issue of
> > "ExtraOrdinary Technology" there is quite an extensive article
> cosmic rays,
> > and some speculations on how to tap this energy
> > Steve Elswick -- steve@t...
> > Publisher/Editor - ExtraOrdinary Technology
> > 520-463-1994 - http://www.teslatech.info
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: floyd_of_the_flies [mailto:floyd_of_the_flies@y...]
> > Sent: Monday, October 20, 2003 1:39 PM
> > To: Sightings@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [Sightings] Re: - is there really free energy?
> > --- In Sightings@yahoogroups.com, "Steven R. Elswick"
> > <edwin.robinson@m...> wrote:
> > >I believe that Tesla used this particular phenomena in his
> > powered 1931 Pierce Arrow car.graph
> > Are you are real BSEE? Did you fail physics? I just uploaded a
> > or total cosmic ray flux to the photos section. First of all Teslareal
> > never had a "cosmic ray powered car" . Second there isn't enough
> > energy in cosmic rays to power a toy, much less a car. TheAtmosphee
> > gets rid of most of the incomming particles and the ones that getmaybe
> > through are really showers of particals generated in the upper
> > atmosphere. You can DETECT them with scintilation counters and
> > produce some output after a thosand fold amplification in a geigersomething,
> > tube or photomultiplier.
> > Floyd
> > MSEE and Curmudgeon
> > Look within to find the answers, not to someone, not to
> but tobut to
> > the inner self!
> > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
> Look within to find the answers, not to someone, not to something,
> the inner self!http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to