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TIP #65: Enhanced [info args]

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  • Glenn Jackman
    TIP #65: ENHANCED [INFO ARGS] =============================== Version: $Revision: 1.1 $ Author: Glenn Jackman State:
    Message 1 of 1 , Oct 2, 2001
      Version: $Revision: 1.1 $
      Author: Glenn Jackman <glennj@...>
      State: Draft
      Type: Project
      Tcl-Version: 8.4
      Vote: Pending
      Created: Tuesday, 18 September 2001
      URL: http://purl.org/tcl/tip/65.html
      WebEdit: http://purl.org/tcl/tip/edit/65



      This TIP proposes a new subcommand to the [info] command be added that
      would return the list of arguments, together with any default values in
      the same format as the _args_ parameter to the [proc] command.


      The [proc] man page defines _args_ as:

      ... the formal arguments to the procedure. It consists of a list,
      possibly empty, each of whose elements specifies one argument.
      Each argument specifier is also a list with either one or two
      fields. If there is only a single field in the specifier then it
      is the name of the argument; if there are two fields, then the
      first is the argument name and the second is its default value.

      Suppose we define a procedure like this:

      proc test {one {two 2} {three {3 4 5}} args} {return}

      We want to determine the formal arguments for this procedure. We want
      some method to return the list:

      one {two 2} {three {3 4 5}} args

      [info args] fails us because it does not return default values, only
      the list of argument names {one two three args}.

      The [info default] command exists, and does partially what we want.
      However [info default] only operates on a single argument. To determine
      the complete list of arguments with default values, we must iterate
      over the arguments returned by [info args]. We would define a procedure

      proc info_args_with_defaults {procname} {
      set argspec [list]
      # [info args] throws an error if $procname is not a procedure.
      foreach arg [info args $procname] {
      if {[info default $procname $arg value]} {
      lappend argspec [list $arg $value]
      } else {
      lappend argspec $arg
      return $argspec
      info_args_with_defaults test ;# ==> returns {one {two 2} {three {3 4 5}} args}

      A more sophisticated scripted solution is to overload the [info]
      command itself, as described in the Wiki at

      It would be much more convenient to be able to rely on the [info]
      command itself to return the desired information, particularly since it
      _almost_ does what we want already.

      _This topic was originally raised in the <URL:news:comp.lang.tcl>
      newsgroup in the thread


      With the goal of maintaining backwards compatibility in mind, two
      possibilities arise: adding a new switch to the existing [info args]
      command, and adding a completely new subcommand to [info].

      Adding a switch to [info args] may break backwards compatibility. If we
      use the syntax [info args _?-withdefaults? procname_], there may be
      trouble with existing scripts containing a procedure named
      "-withdefaults". The syntax [info args _procname ?-withdefaults?_] is
      completely backwards compatible. However, among Tcl commands that take
      subcommands, there is currently some inconsistency as to where switches
      should appear. [clock] subcommands place these options after required
      parameters. [namespace] and [package] subcommands place these options
      before required parameters. Some [file] subcommands put them before,
      some after. Currently, no [info] subcommands take switches.

      Rather than compound to this inconsistency, creating a new [info]
      subcommand feels cleaner. Possible names include:

      argspec, arglist, args_with_defaults:
      These all collide with the "arg", "ar", "a" shorthands for [info
      args _procname_]. And _args_with_defaults_ is just *way* too

      formalargs, fullargs:
      Either of these could be used. There are no [info] subcommands
      beginning with "f".

      parameters: This collides with the "pa" shorthand for [info patchlevel]

      prototype: This collides with the "pro" and "pr" shorthands for [info
      procs _?pattern?_]

      signature: This could be used, as it does not collide with any
      shorthand for either [info script] or [info sharedlibextension].

      The term "signature" has meaning in the Java and C++ worlds: the
      function name and its arguments together comprise the signature. The
      purpose of this TIP is to return only the arguments with any defaults,
      so to avoid any potential confusion I will rule out "signature".

      Of the remaining possibilities, my choice would be "formalargs". The
      term "formal arguments" is used in the [proc] man page. "formalargs"
      also incorporates the word "args", indicating a relationship to [info


      Refer to the submitted patch, which implements an subcommand named
      [info fullargs], at:


      This document has been placed in the public domain.


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