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[tc-list] Re: Is. 3:10 & the Nazarene Text

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  • James Trimm
    ... This is called conflation. ... No but in Eusebius it is quoted from Hegesippus who was a Nazarene and wh describes the position of the followers of Ya akov
    Message 1 of 1 , Feb 7, 2000
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      >Dear James Trimm
      >
      >You wrote concerning Is 3:10 that
      >> [t]his shows that the Nazarenes used a text of Isaiah which (at
      >> least here) followed the LXX more closely than the MT, but which this
      >> variant proves was actually a HEBREW text which agreed with the LXX.
      >I have a problem with the passage and your statement that you may want
      >to clarify.
      >
      >As far as I can understand your conclusion is based on the following
      >Hebrew words at the beginning of the verse 10
      >
      >> MT: say alef- mem -resh-vav
      >>
      >> LXX: bind alef-samek-vav-resh
      >>
      >> Nazarene: take away chet-samek-vav-resh
      >My problem is that the LXX has ALSO a counterpart for the verb "to say"
      >alef-mem-resh in the MT, how can you then proseed to say that the
      >Nazarene text would be close to the LXX which is longer than the MT or
      >the Naz.

      This is called conflation.

      >
      >BTW, Since I do not know too much about the Nazarene, is the content of
      >the Nazarene text based on Eusebius's History (the Greek verb
      >_arwmen_)? When the same wording is known from Justin, is he also a
      >part of the Nazarene movement?

      No but in Eusebius it is quoted from Hegesippus who was a Nazarene and wh
      describes the position of the followers of Ya'akov HaTzadik who was the
      first Nasi of the Nazarene Sanhedrin.

      >
      >Sincerely
      >
      >Seppo
      >
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      >
      >Mr Seppo Sipila
      >Department of Biblical Studies
      >University of Helsinki
      >seppo.sipila@...
      >http://www.helsinki.fi/~sesipila/
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