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  • Bruce Prior
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      >From: "Bruce Prior" <n7rr@...>
      Sorry, I inadvertently sent the following to a sub-group rather than to the
      whole tc list.
      >
      >Jeff Cate and the group --
      >
      >The Revised Standard Version of John 1:18 reads: "No one has ever seen God;
      >the only Son, who is in the bosom of the Father, he has made him known."
      >The footnote for Son reads: "Other ancient authorities read God." The New
      >Testament RSV committee members included Luther A. Weigle, Henry J.
      >Cadbury, Edgar J. Goodspeed, James Moffatt (who died in 1944), Walter
      >Russell Bowie, Frederick C. Grant, Millar Burrows, Clarence T. Craig, and
      >Abdel R. Wentz. The RSV New Testament was published in 1946, before Bruce
      >M. Metzger joined the committee.
      >
      >J. Bruce Prior in Blaine, WA
      >
      >
      >>From: Jeff Cate <jeffcate@...>
      >>To: n7rr@...
      >>Subject: Re: tc-list UBS4 & NRSV on Jn 1:18
      >>Date: Wed, 3 Nov 1999 09:10:54 -0800
      >>
      >>Thank you, Bruce. This was the kind of info I was curious about. Knowing
      >>that Metzger was the common denominator on both committees, it somewhat
      >>surprised me that the UBS and NRSV chose differently on what they
      >>rendered as the most original reading.
      >>
      >>Jeff Cate, Ph.D.
      >>Associate Professor of Christian Studies
      >>California Baptist University
      >>Riverside, California 92504
      >>
      >>On Tue, 02 Nov 1999 22:04:44 PST "Bruce Prior" <n7rr@...> writes:
      >> >The discussion of this matter is the same in the first and second
      >> >editions
      >> >of Metzger's A Textual Commentary on the Greek New Testament. The B
      >> >rating
      >> >for the chosen text in the 3rd Corrected Edition was retained in the
      >> >4th
      >> >Revised Edition. The dissenting voice belongs to Allen Wikgren, who
      >> >was no
      >> >longer on the Greek New Testament committee for the 4th revised
      >> >edition.
      >> >
      >> >Metzger makes clear in his memoir that the GNT committee was entirely
      >> >recruited by him, whereas Metzger worked on the committee which
      >> >produced the
      >> >NRSV as a relatively junior scholar for a number of years before he
      >> >acquired
      >> >the gavel once wielded by Luther A. Weigle. The GNT committee, in
      >> >short,
      >> >was more closely knit and more firmly in Metzger's control than was
      >> >the NRSV
      >> >committee.
      >> >
      >> >I realize that this is not a satisfactory answer to your query. John
      >> >1:8
      >> >merely highlights some of the give-and-take which characterized the
      >> >decisions of the two committees. The committees were very different.
      >> >They
      >> >simply had in common one strong force: Bruce M. Metzger.
      >> >
      >> >J. Bruce Prior in Blaine, WA
      >> >
      >> >
      >> >>From: Jeff Cate <jeffcate@...>
      >> >>Reply-To: tc-list@...
      >> >>To: tc-list@...
      >> >>Subject: tc-list UBS4 & NRSV on Jn 1:18
      >> >>Date: Tue, 2 Nov 1999 16:02:23 -0800
      >> >>
      >> >>Does anyone know why the NRSV committee chose to include "son" in Jn
      >> >1:18
      >> >>instead of going with the UBS4 decision (rated B) to omit "son"?
      >> >>
      >> >>The preface to the NRSV does state, "Only in very rare instances have
      >> >we
      >> >>[i.e., the NRSV committee] replaced the text or the punctuation of
      >> >the
      >> >>Bible Societies' edition by an alternative that seemed to us to be
      >> >>superior."
      >> >>
      >> >>It seems somewhat odd to me that the NRSV would make a change to a
      >> >>B-rated reading in UBS4. Yes, I am familiar with the difficulties of
      >> >>translating 1:18 without "son" but that doesn't justify overturning
      >> >>textual evidence.
      >> >>
      >> >>Jeff Cate, Ph.D.
      >> >>Associate Professor of Christian Studies
      >> >>California Baptist University
      >> >>Riverside, California 92504
      >> >>
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