Fwd: Re: tc-list UBS4 & NRSV on Jn 1:18
>From: "Bruce Prior" <n7rr@...>Sorry, I inadvertently sent the following to a sub-group rather than to the
whole tc list.
>Jeff Cate and the group --
>The Revised Standard Version of John 1:18 reads: "No one has ever seen God;
>the only Son, who is in the bosom of the Father, he has made him known."
>The footnote for Son reads: "Other ancient authorities read God." The New
>Testament RSV committee members included Luther A. Weigle, Henry J.
>Cadbury, Edgar J. Goodspeed, James Moffatt (who died in 1944), Walter
>Russell Bowie, Frederick C. Grant, Millar Burrows, Clarence T. Craig, and
>Abdel R. Wentz. The RSV New Testament was published in 1946, before Bruce
>M. Metzger joined the committee.
>J. Bruce Prior in Blaine, WA
>>From: Jeff Cate <jeffcate@...>
>>Subject: Re: tc-list UBS4 & NRSV on Jn 1:18
>>Date: Wed, 3 Nov 1999 09:10:54 -0800
>>Thank you, Bruce. This was the kind of info I was curious about. Knowing
>>that Metzger was the common denominator on both committees, it somewhat
>>surprised me that the UBS and NRSV chose differently on what they
>>rendered as the most original reading.
>>Jeff Cate, Ph.D.
>>Associate Professor of Christian Studies
>>California Baptist University
>>Riverside, California 92504
>>On Tue, 02 Nov 1999 22:04:44 PST "Bruce Prior" <n7rr@...> writes:
>> >The discussion of this matter is the same in the first and second
>> >of Metzger's A Textual Commentary on the Greek New Testament. The B
>> >for the chosen text in the 3rd Corrected Edition was retained in the
>> >Revised Edition. The dissenting voice belongs to Allen Wikgren, who
>> >was no
>> >longer on the Greek New Testament committee for the 4th revised
>> >Metzger makes clear in his memoir that the GNT committee was entirely
>> >recruited by him, whereas Metzger worked on the committee which
>> >produced the
>> >NRSV as a relatively junior scholar for a number of years before he
>> >the gavel once wielded by Luther A. Weigle. The GNT committee, in
>> >was more closely knit and more firmly in Metzger's control than was
>> >the NRSV
>> >I realize that this is not a satisfactory answer to your query. John
>> >merely highlights some of the give-and-take which characterized the
>> >decisions of the two committees. The committees were very different.
>> >simply had in common one strong force: Bruce M. Metzger.
>> >J. Bruce Prior in Blaine, WA
>> >>From: Jeff Cate <jeffcate@...>
>> >>Reply-To: tc-list@...
>> >>To: tc-list@...
>> >>Subject: tc-list UBS4 & NRSV on Jn 1:18
>> >>Date: Tue, 2 Nov 1999 16:02:23 -0800
>> >>Does anyone know why the NRSV committee chose to include "son" in Jn
>> >>instead of going with the UBS4 decision (rated B) to omit "son"?
>> >>The preface to the NRSV does state, "Only in very rare instances have
>> >>[i.e., the NRSV committee] replaced the text or the punctuation of
>> >>Bible Societies' edition by an alternative that seemed to us to be
>> >>It seems somewhat odd to me that the NRSV would make a change to a
>> >>B-rated reading in UBS4. Yes, I am familiar with the difficulties of
>> >>translating 1:18 without "son" but that doesn't justify overturning
>> >>textual evidence.
>> >>Jeff Cate, Ph.D.
>> >>Associate Professor of Christian Studies
>> >>California Baptist University
>> >>Riverside, California 92504
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