Re: tc-list Liège diatessaron question
>My question concerns Mt 6.8 in the Li�ge Diatessaron - want u vader weetPerhaps it helps if you cut up the scriptio continua further: "eer ghi ne
>wale wis u behoeft, eer ghine anebedt (De Bruin, p. 46, l. 25). Do I miss
>something or is the English translation of the edition of De Bruin adding
>something that is not in the Dutch text when it translates 'for your
>Father knows well what ye need before ye pray TO HIM'? Apparently these
>last two words are not in the Dutch text?
>Am I right or is there some morphological peculiarity of middle dutch that
>I don't get here, because as a Belgian I know modern dutch, which usually
>is quite enough to understand these texts, but of course is sometimes
anebedet." "ghi" is translated with 'ye' and "ne" with 'to him'. In this
case the writing convention follows speech where the unstressed "ne" is
pronounced together with the preceding pronoun.
One should be aware of agglutinising pronouns (which are easily added or
omitted) in other vernacular versions as well. Cf. the same passage in the
Tuscan Diatessaron tradition:
- prima che voi adomandiate (MSS S and R)
- prima che voi l'adomandiate (MS L)
- prima che voi il adomandiate (MSS PT)
I do not think that the variation goes back to different Greek Vorlagen.
Think also of the same passage in modern French: avant que tu ne l' invoque.
Here the addition of the negative element "ne" may cause confusion with a
Finally, a caveat for TC-ers consulting the Middle Dutch versions: beware
of the double negation (which still exists in French): "en" does not always
mean 'and'. Cf. Jhn 5.23c in a MS from Brussels:
Die niet en eren den sone
Those who (do) not honour the son
die en eren oec niet den vader diene ghesent heeft
those honour also not the father who him sent has
Please note in this passage another case of "-ne".
(I send a copy or this email to a fellow-Diatessaronite who is not on the
list. August den Hollander is the specialist in Middle Dutch Bible
dr H.P.S. Bakker
University of Amsterdam
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