Re: Byzantine editions (Was: Re: James)
- On Fri, 3 Jan 1997, "Ronald L. Minton" <rminton@...> wrote:
>Dr. Waltz, very good summary, I also add my $0.02 :)Just have to remind everyone that I am not a doctor, nor even a
seminarian. Just a person trained in Physics and Math and gifted (?)
with a bog mouth (or, in this case, keyboard).
>> TR = Textus Receptus. An edition substantially identical to that whichThe Oxford editions are the basis for most recent collations. And
>> Erasmus published in the early sixteenth century. The most widely
>> mentioned TR editions are those of Stephanus, Beza, Elzevir, and the
>> Oxford edition of 1873.
>The Oxford 1825 was used by H&F, so has become a convenient TR used by many.
it's a good thing that H&F list their readings, because they aren't
easy to find any more!
>> >Majority TextThat's the number of differences that Wallace finds between the TR and
>> The text found in the majority of manuscripts. Usually the same as
>> the TR, but there are some thousands of differences. (E.g. the
>> Majority Text does not include the Three Heavenly Witnesses in 1 John 5.)
>c. 1850 differences.
H&F. But I would note that H&F is *not* the Majority Text; it's a
preliminary edition. It's based mostly on von Soden.
At this time, with so many manuscripts uncollated, we don't actually
*know* the reading of the Majority Text at some points. There are
probably a few places where H&F (or Robinson) print a reading which
is not a majority reading. I would guess there are fewer than a hundred
such, but there are undoubtedly some.
>> >Byzantine TextI agree.
>> This is more difficult. It could mean the Majority Text. It could mean
>> the text used in Byzantium. I personally tend to use it to refer to the
>> original form of the text which eventually evolved into the Majority
>> Text. This text probably, but by no means certainly, evolved in
>> Byzantium. (BTW -- I use the term "Byzantine Text" in this way not
>> because this is necessarily the best meaning, but because we need
>> *some* name for this text.)
>I think of the Byz text as a textual family or text type, ie the
>hypothetical text behind the majority of manuscripts.
>Other names that are sometimes used for the above are: Received Text,I hereby propose, though, that we stick with "Byzantine text." It's
>Ecclesiastical Text, Syrian Text, "A" Text, Antiochan Text, Common Text,
one of the oldest names, and it's less confusing than, say, Hort's
Robert B. Waltz
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