[tatar-l] Re: Fwd: Muwahhidun-what is/was Idil-Ural
- Dear Irek,
I feel a need to respond.
>Selam, Renat,I do both, but hate to speak Russian. The reason is obvious.
>If you from Tatarstan then you should speak good Russian or Tatar.
><I felt state-level discrimination against Wahhabis even inThat your apprentices do or do not do something does not show that it is
>Of course, I agree.
><All my deeds while I was in Tatarstan (Russia) were in accordance with the
>constitution, even Russian, not only Tatarstani.>
>Then you are not a Wahhabi, because those of my former apprentices whom I
>taught some 4-5 years ago the basic knowledge of Islam and who can be
>considered now as Wahhabis do not recognize any constitution except Koran
>and Hadith. They wear long beards, their wives close their faces, they
>threw out all the photographs, all the chairs from their houses, they even
>do not bury their parents considering them kafirs, etc.
inherent to Muwahhidun. I am a Muwahhidin. However, I think that people
should not be forced into a particular conviction (what Russia does more
than Saudi Arabia). Reason? "La ikraha fiddiini." "There is no duress
(compulsion) in religion". This is a well-known verse from Qur'an, surat-ul
Baqara (forgive me not giving the number, if needed I will cite it later).
Secondly, I do not see anything wrong in wearing beards. Many non-Muslims do
it. As to throwing all photographs and chairs I have never heard it is
practiced by Muwahhidun. Why should Muwahhidun throw chairs if, say, in
Saudi Arabia, they use all modern conveniences including luxury cars? Most
importantly, there is nothing in Qur'an or Hadith that prohibits photographs
and chairs. Photographs should be covered with something only during daily
prayers. If some of them do something excessive, I can only say that I don't
understand it. As I said I am open-minded and if someone from a group that
has a bearing to me does something unreasonable it does not mean I approve
>Of course, our old Imams are not mostly Muslims. They can drink alcohol andIf you thought that this is the persecution I referred to, it is not so.
>go to mechet to pray, they collect money to their own pocket. Of course,
>they try to expel all young people who graduates from Madrasas because
>these young people point to all of their sins and they menace to the
>financial position of false Imams.
There are many ways to persecute, even when one does not scold with anybody.
In fact, Russia could find a reason to persecute even angels if they could
see and touch them.
>Sau bulogoz,Esteghfirullah, achuwom kilmi. Doroson eytkende monon' kibik fikirleshulerde
>Minem suzlereme achuogoz kilmesen,
xeqiqet yata. Peygamberibiz de "Ommetim ichindegi ixtilaflar bir nighmettir"