5758Re: [Synoptic-L] The Existence of Q
- Mar 2, 2001I wrote:
>> Suppose we come across a novel by an unknown author with no indicationStephen Carlson replied:
>>of its date of publication. In the middle of the novel we come across
>>the phrase: "to boldly go where no man has gone before".
>> As in the synoptic case, there are three main possibilities.
>>(1) Star Trek copied it from the novel.
>>(2) The novel copied it from Star Trek
>>(3) Star Trek and the novel are dependent on a common source for the
>> Which is the most likely? I would guess in this case that there is of
>>the order of 99% probability that the novel copied from Star Trek. What
>>do you think?
>It seems to me that all three options are possible. The mainStephen,
>thing going for option (2) is that Star Trek was disseminated
>very widely and the novel was not .......
>Here's where the analogy to the synoptics breaks down: we
>don't know how widely disseminated the gospels were in the
But there is other evidence that Luke knew Matthew, evidence which is
completely independent of the claimed Mattheanisms: "weeping and
gnashing of teeth" and ANQRWPOS+noun. There's Luke 1:1. There's the
naming and framing of the Sermon on the Plain which looks as if it's
based on the Sermon on the Mount. There are the double tradition
pericopae which seem to be dependent on their Matthean context, as Mark
Goodacre is rightly keen to point out. All this evidence relates to the
specific case, and is at least as strong in favour of Luke's knowledge
of Matthew, as the dissemination of Star Trek is in favour of the
novel's knowledge of Star Trek, especially bearing in mind that in our
analogy as stated we do not know whether the novel was published before
or after the first episode of Star Trek.
We have no need to consider the general dissemination of the gospels
in the first century, unless you can show that Luke's knowledge of
Matthew is distinctly unlikely from a dissemination point of view, which
I'm sure you can't. The above evidence for Luke's knowledge of Matthew
tells us everything we need to know about the dissemination of Matthew,
i.e. a copy found its way to Luke.
Thus the analogy holds, unless anyone can come up with a better
argument against it.
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