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  • Erik Dahlström
    ... Nice work, that s a neat way of associating content. ... External raster images is supported in both FF and Opera AFAIK, e.g.
    Message 1 of 7 , Feb 18, 2008
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      On Sat, 16 Feb 2008 05:20:27 +0100, DamianZ <damez77@...> wrote:

      > I invite you to visit my proyect and see the power of SVG.
      >
      > View this example
      > http://www.wikidraw.com.ar/Vinculo?uri=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SVG
      > WikiDraw is a mind map or mental map of the content of wikipedia (or
      > any wiki create with MediaWiki).

      Nice work, that's a neat way of associating content.

      > The result is a SVG (embbed in XTHML), the entitys (or links of
      > wikipedia) are preload and referenced by the tag <USE> (thanks Frank).
      > I can't create a external file with these svg images (is not
      > implemented yet in FF or Opera).

      External raster images is supported in both FF and Opera AFAIK, e.g.
      <image xlink:href="http://example.org/some.jpg"/>.
      External references is supported in Opera 9.5 (on <use>, <image>,
      <foreignObject> and <animation> as well as property values that accept
      url:s).

      You can find some svg examples on my blog which show the ways of accessing
      external content in svg:s, for example:
      http://files.myopera.com/MacDev_ed/sarpsborg2007/slides.html
      http://files.myopera.com/MacDev_ed/svgopen2007/wowslides%2Bdemos.zip

      > Stop their views!

      Ehm...not sure what you mean by that :)

      Cheers
      /Erik

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      Co-Chair, W3C SVG Working Group
      Personal blog: http://my.opera.com/macdev_ed
    • "~:'' ありがとうございました
      external Erik, amazing, what a pity that we re waiting on Safari and Mozilla. (filed parity Opera comments) perhaps you already read Dan Brickley s
      Message 2 of 7 , Feb 18, 2008
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        external <use>

        Erik,

        amazing, what a pity that we're waiting on Safari and Mozilla.
        (filed parity Opera comments)

        perhaps you already read Dan Brickley's article:
        http://danbri.org/words/2007/09/14/199

        The mozilla bug has a rather wider gamut,
        Allow <svg:use> to reference elements in other documents
        https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=269482

        is support for this imminent?

        for instance I saved your example locally and edited the star link to:
        http://files.myopera.com/MacDev_ed/sarpsborg2007/star2.svg#root which
        works fine, but
        http://files.myopera.com/MacDev_ed/sarpsborg2007/star2.svg#star does
        not :-(
        is the syntax correct?

        regards

        Jonathan Chetwynd
        Accessibility Consultant on Media Literacy and the Internet



        On 18 Feb 2008, at 08:31, Erik Dahlström wrote:

        On Sat, 16 Feb 2008 05:20:27 +0100, DamianZ <damez77@...>
        wrote:

        > I invite you to visit my proyect and see the power of SVG.
        >
        > View this example
        > http://www.wikidraw.com.ar/Vinculo?uri=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/
        > SVG
        > WikiDraw is a mind map or mental map of the content of wikipedia (or
        > any wiki create with MediaWiki).

        Nice work, that's a neat way of associating content.

        > The result is a SVG (embbed in XTHML), the entitys (or links of
        > wikipedia) are preload and referenced by the tag <USE> (thanks Frank).
        > I can't create a external file with these svg images (is not
        > implemented yet in FF or Opera).

        External raster images is supported in both FF and Opera AFAIK, e.g.
        <image xlink:href="http://example.org/some.jpg"/>.
        External references is supported in Opera 9.5 (on <use>, <image>,
        <foreignObject> and <animation> as well as property values that accept
        url:s).

        You can find some svg examples on my blog which show the ways of
        accessing
        external content in svg:s, for example:
        http://files.myopera.com/MacDev_ed/sarpsborg2007/slides.html
        http://files.myopera.com/MacDev_ed/svgopen2007/wowslides%2Bdemos.zip

        > Stop their views!

        Ehm...not sure what you mean by that :)

        Cheers
        /Erik

        --
        Erik Dahlstrom, Core Technology Developer, Opera Software
        Co-Chair, W3C SVG Working Group
        Personal blog: http://my.opera.com/macdev_ed


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      • Erik Dahlström
        On Mon, 18 Feb 2008 10:38:13 +0100, ~: ありがとうございました。 ... Thanks, no I had not seen that before. ... Yes, the syntax is correct. Note
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          On Mon, 18 Feb 2008 10:38:13 +0100, ~:'' ありがとうございました。
          <j.chetwynd@...> wrote:

          > external <use>
          >
          > Erik,
          >
          > amazing, what a pity that we're waiting on Safari and Mozilla.
          > (filed parity Opera comments)
          >
          > perhaps you already read Dan Brickley's article:
          > http://danbri.org/words/2007/09/14/199

          Thanks, no I had not seen that before.

          > The mozilla bug has a rather wider gamut,
          > Allow <svg:use> to reference elements in other documents
          > https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=269482
          >
          > is support for this imminent?
          >
          > for instance I saved your example locally and edited the star link to:
          > http://files.myopera.com/MacDev_ed/sarpsborg2007/star2.svg#root which
          > works fine, but
          > http://files.myopera.com/MacDev_ed/sarpsborg2007/star2.svg#star does not
          > :-(
          > is the syntax correct?

          Yes, the syntax is correct. Note that if you reference an <svg> or
          <symbol> element it has special behaviour though[1].
          The thing is that if you use the path then you'll have to be sure that the
          coordinate system is compatible, otherwise your path may fall outside the
          canvas.
          Also, since the path didn't have any fill specified and the background is
          black you wouldn't see anything. I got something on screen by doing this:
          <use xlink:href="star2.svg#star" fill="green" y="-200" width="400"
          height="400"/>

          If you want a whole document included I would suggest using the <image> or
          <animation> element instead of <use>.

          Cheers
          /Erik

          [1] http://www.w3.org/TR/SVG11/struct.html#UseElement

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          Erik Dahlstrom, Core Technology Developer, Opera Software
          Co-Chair, W3C SVG Working Group
          Personal blog: http://my.opera.com/macdev_ed
        • Damian
          I will change to use in external file. But in FF3 beta 3 your example not working. In other email you recomended replace for . Is that correct?
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            I will change to use in external file. But in FF3 beta 3 your example not
            working.

            In other email you recomended replace <USE> for <IMAGE>. Is that correct?

            Saludos,
            Damian from Argentina

            ----- Original Message -----
            From: "Erik Dahlström" <ed@...>
            To: <svg-developers@yahoogroups.com>
            Sent: Monday, February 18, 2008 5:31 AM
            Subject: Re: [svg-developers] my academic project & SVG


            > On Sat, 16 Feb 2008 05:20:27 +0100, DamianZ <damez77@...> wrote:
            >
            >> I invite you to visit my proyect and see the power of SVG.
            >>
            >> View this example
            >> http://www.wikidraw.com.ar/Vinculo?uri=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SVG
            >> WikiDraw is a mind map or mental map of the content of wikipedia (or
            >> any wiki create with MediaWiki).
            >
            > Nice work, that's a neat way of associating content.
            >
            >> The result is a SVG (embbed in XTHML), the entitys (or links of
            >> wikipedia) are preload and referenced by the tag <USE> (thanks Frank).
            >> I can't create a external file with these svg images (is not
            >> implemented yet in FF or Opera).
            >
            > External raster images is supported in both FF and Opera AFAIK, e.g.
            > <image xlink:href="http://example.org/some.jpg"/>.
            > External references is supported in Opera 9.5 (on <use>, <image>,
            > <foreignObject> and <animation> as well as property values that accept
            > url:s).
            >
            > You can find some svg examples on my blog which show the ways of accessing
            > external content in svg:s, for example:
            > http://files.myopera.com/MacDev_ed/sarpsborg2007/slides.html
            > http://files.myopera.com/MacDev_ed/svgopen2007/wowslides%2Bdemos.zip
            >
            >> Stop their views!
            >
            > Ehm...not sure what you mean by that :)
            >
            > Cheers
            > /Erik
            >
            > --
            > Erik Dahlstrom, Core Technology Developer, Opera Software
            > Co-Chair, W3C SVG Working Group
            > Personal blog: http://my.opera.com/macdev_ed
            >
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          • Charles McCathieNevile
            ... Si estas incluyendo una imagen completa, como lo entendi yo. Si quieres usar un simbolo de verdad, vale con ... salodos Chaals from all over the place
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              On Mon, 18 Feb 2008 23:23:09 +0100, Damian <damez77@...> wrote:

              > I will change to use in external file. But in FF3 beta 3 your example not
              > working.
              >
              > In other email you recomended replace <USE> for <IMAGE>. Is that correct?

              Si estas incluyendo una imagen completa, como lo entendi yo. Si quieres
              usar un simbolo de verdad, vale con <use>...

              salodos

              Chaals from all over the place

              > Saludos,
              > Damian from Argentina
              >
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              > From: "Erik Dahlström" <ed@...>
              > To: <svg-developers@yahoogroups.com>
              > Sent: Monday, February 18, 2008 5:31 AM
              > Subject: Re: [svg-developers] my academic project & SVG
              >
              >
              >> On Sat, 16 Feb 2008 05:20:27 +0100, DamianZ <damez77@...>
              >> wrote:
              >>
              >>> I invite you to visit my proyect and see the power of SVG.
              >>>
              >>> View this example
              >>> http://www.wikidraw.com.ar/Vinculo?uri=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SVG
              >>> WikiDraw is a mind map or mental map of the content of wikipedia (or
              >>> any wiki create with MediaWiki).
              >>
              >> Nice work, that's a neat way of associating content.
              >>
              >>> The result is a SVG (embbed in XTHML), the entitys (or links of
              >>> wikipedia) are preload and referenced by the tag <USE> (thanks Frank).
              >>> I can't create a external file with these svg images (is not
              >>> implemented yet in FF or Opera).
              >>
              >> External raster images is supported in both FF and Opera AFAIK, e.g.
              >> <image xlink:href="http://example.org/some.jpg"/>.
              >> External references is supported in Opera 9.5 (on <use>, <image>,
              >> <foreignObject> and <animation> as well as property values that accept
              >> url:s).
              >>
              >> You can find some svg examples on my blog which show the ways of
              >> accessing
              >> external content in svg:s, for example:
              >> http://files.myopera.com/MacDev_ed/sarpsborg2007/slides.html
              >> http://files.myopera.com/MacDev_ed/svgopen2007/wowslides%2Bdemos.zip
              >>
              >>> Stop their views!
              >>
              >> Ehm...not sure what you mean by that :)
              >>
              >> Cheers
              >> /Erik
              >>
              >> --
              >> Erik Dahlstrom, Core Technology Developer, Opera Software
              >> Co-Chair, W3C SVG Working Group
              >> Personal blog: http://my.opera.com/macdev_ed
              >>
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