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  • steltenpower
    http://svgopen.org/2008
    Message 1 of 13 , Oct 4, 2007
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      http://svgopen.org/2008


      --- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, David Dailey <david.dailey@...>
      wrote:
      >
      > Does anyone yet know when or where this is likely to happen?
      >
      > The cycle of funding here makes it easier to start planning early.
      >
      > regards,
      > David
      >
    • Doug Schepers
      Hi, David- ... We recognize that late announcement makes it difficult for attendance (for presenters and audience alike). We are planning SVG Open 2008 right
      Message 2 of 13 , Oct 4, 2007
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        Hi, David-

        David Dailey wrote (on 10/3/2007 10:41 AM):
        > Does anyone yet know when or where this is likely to happen?
        >
        > The cycle of funding here makes it easier to start planning early.

        We recognize that late announcement makes it difficult for attendance
        (for presenters and audience alike).

        We are planning SVG Open 2008 right now, and we will be making a Call
        for Participation before the end of the year, and will give notification
        of acceptance soon after.

        The conference will be in Europe, in the Autumn.

        Regards-
        -Doug
      • mark_alsisto
        hi david, do you have the simpler example that you mention. i really need your help. i just need a simple example of how to show and hide a text in svg using
        Message 3 of 13 , Oct 5, 2007
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          hi david,
          do you have the simpler example that you mention. i really need your help.
          i just need a simple example of how to show and hide a text in svg using
          html radiobutton control...
          from there...i will try to understand the coding and implement it with my
          work...

          thanx...for your reply


          ddailey wrote:
          >
          > In http://srufaculty.sru.edu/david.dailey/svg/waves.html
          > (which should run in Opera and IE/ASV) little waves that distort an image
          > are created from parameters given by
          > HTML form elements and then are embedded into the DOM and animated with
          > SMIL.
          >
          > It also takes advantage of the file upload (input type-file) in HTML that
          > is rather hard to duplicate in SVG alone.
          >
          > I have some simpler examples laying about somewhere. If such would prove
          > useful, please holler.
          >
          > David Dailey
          > ----- Original Message -----
          > From: mark_alsisto
          > To: svg-developers@yahoogroups.com
          > Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2007 11:40 PM
          > Subject: [svg-developers] SVG with html control
          >
          >
          > hi,
          > can anyone give me a simple example on how i can control svg with the
          > use of html control. for example, there are checkboxes that controls
          > whether to display text in svg.
          >
          > thanx...
          >
          >
          >
          >
          >
          > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
          >
          >
          >

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        • ddailey
          Sure Mark, Take a look at the first example at http://srufaculty.sru.edu/david.dailey/svg/intro/PartF_C.html It works in IE/ASV, Opera 9.23, and FF (except for
          Message 4 of 13 , Oct 6, 2007
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            Sure Mark,

            Take a look at the first example at http://srufaculty.sru.edu/david.dailey/svg/intro/PartF_C.html

            It works in IE/ASV, Opera 9.23, and FF (except for the SMIL). The color of the SVG oval is varied through values chosen in an HTML <select>.

            The second example uses turbulence filters as controlled by radio buttons in HTML, so it also won't work in FF, though it is working for me in IT and Opera.

            The third example -- well let's just not talk about that one (there is an error of some sort in my very old code that prevents the keystroke event from being detected in Opera.)

            A slightly more adventurous example is given here.

            http://srufaculty.sru.edu/david.dailey/svg/intro/checkerembed.html

            It embeds clipPaths into an SVG from HTML and seems to be working in FF, IE and Opera.

            hope this helps,
            David
            ----- Original Message -----
            From: mark_alsisto
            To: svg-developers@yahoogroups.com
            Sent: Saturday, October 06, 2007 2:39 AM
            Subject: Re: [svg-developers] SVG with html control



            hi david,
            do you have the simpler example that you mention. i really need your help.
            i just need a simple example of how to show and hide a text in svg using
            html radiobutton control...
            from there...i will try to understand the coding and implement it with my
            work...

            thanx...for your reply

            ddailey wrote:
            >
            > In http://srufaculty.sru.edu/david.dailey/svg/waves.html
            > (which should run in Opera and IE/ASV) little waves that distort an image
            > are created from parameters given by
            > HTML form elements and then are embedded into the DOM and animated with
            > SMIL.
            >
            > It also takes advantage of the file upload (input type-file) in HTML that
            > is rather hard to duplicate in SVG alone.
            >
            > I have some simpler examples laying about somewhere. If such would prove
            > useful, please holler.
            >
            > David Dailey
            > ----- Original Message -----
            > From: mark_alsisto
            > To: svg-developers@yahoogroups.com
            > Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2007 11:40 PM
            > Subject: [svg-developers] SVG with html control
            >
            >
            > hi,
            > can anyone give me a simple example on how i can control svg with the
            > use of html control. for example, there are checkboxes that controls
            > whether to display text in svg.
            >
            > thanx...
            >
            >
            >
            >
            >
            > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
            >
            >
            >

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          • mark_alsisto
            hi, can you help me see what s wrong with this...i cant seem to get it right(slow learner).
            Message 5 of 13 , Oct 7, 2007
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              hi,
              can you help me see what's wrong with this...i cant seem to get it
              right(slow learner).

              <!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN"
              "http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd">
              <html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml" >
              <head>
              <title>Untitled Page</title>
              <script type="text/javascript">
              var svgdoc, textmap,showHide
              function prepare()
              {
              svgdoc=document.sv.getSVGDocument();
              textmap=svgdoc.getElementById('names');

              }

              function visibleText(showhide)
              {
              textmap.setAttribute("visibility", showHide);
              }


              </script>
              </head>

              <body onload="prepare()">
              //then here is where i embed my svg file.
              <form name="form">
              show<input id="show" type="radio" name="visible" checked="checked"
              onclick="visibleText(visible)"/><br />
              hide<input id="hide" type="radio" name="visible"
              onclick="visibleText(hidden)"/>

              </form>
              </body>
              </html>
              i'm using IE7 and the svg file displayed properly.
              but whenever i clicked the radio button nothing changes. Instead, the msg
              "error on page" were shown at the brower's status bar...please guide me.




              ddailey wrote:
              >
              > Sure Mark,
              >
              > Take a look at the first example at
              > http://srufaculty.sru.edu/david.dailey/svg/intro/PartF_C.html
              >
              > It works in IE/ASV, Opera 9.23, and FF (except for the SMIL). The color of
              > the SVG oval is varied through values chosen in an HTML <select>.
              >
              > The second example uses turbulence filters as controlled by radio buttons
              > in HTML, so it also won't work in FF, though it is working for me in IT
              > and Opera.
              >
              > The third example -- well let's just not talk about that one (there is an
              > error of some sort in my very old code that prevents the keystroke event
              > from being detected in Opera.)
              >
              > A slightly more adventurous example is given here.
              >
              > http://srufaculty.sru.edu/david.dailey/svg/intro/checkerembed.html
              >
              > It embeds clipPaths into an SVG from HTML and seems to be working in FF,
              > IE and Opera.
              >
              > hope this helps,
              > David
              > ----- Original Message -----
              > From: mark_alsisto
              > To: svg-developers@yahoogroups.com
              > Sent: Saturday, October 06, 2007 2:39 AM
              > Subject: Re: [svg-developers] SVG with html control
              >
              >
              >
              > hi david,
              > do you have the simpler example that you mention. i really need your
              > help.
              > i just need a simple example of how to show and hide a text in svg using
              > html radiobutton control...
              > from there...i will try to understand the coding and implement it with
              > my
              > work...
              >
              > thanx...for your reply
              >
              > ddailey wrote:
              > >
              > > In http://srufaculty.sru.edu/david.dailey/svg/waves.html
              > > (which should run in Opera and IE/ASV) little waves that distort an
              > image
              > > are created from parameters given by
              > > HTML form elements and then are embedded into the DOM and animated
              > with
              > > SMIL.
              > >
              > > It also takes advantage of the file upload (input type-file) in HTML
              > that
              > > is rather hard to duplicate in SVG alone.
              > >
              > > I have some simpler examples laying about somewhere. If such would
              > prove
              > > useful, please holler.
              > >
              > > David Dailey
              > > ----- Original Message -----
              > > From: mark_alsisto
              > > To: svg-developers@yahoogroups.com
              > > Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2007 11:40 PM
              > > Subject: [svg-developers] SVG with html control
              > >
              > >
              > > hi,
              > > can anyone give me a simple example on how i can control svg with the
              > > use of html control. for example, there are checkboxes that controls
              > > whether to display text in svg.
              > >
              > > thanx...
              > >
              > >
              > >
              > >
              > >
              > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
              > >
              > >
              > >
              >
              > --
              > View this message in context:
              > http://www.nabble.com/SVG-with-html-control-tf4550488.html#a13071161
              > Sent from the Gnome - librsvg - Dev mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
              >
              >
              >
              >
              >
              > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
              >
              >
              >
              :drunk::drunk:
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            • ddailey
              Hi Mark, Give this a try -- comments included (simple SVG file follows):
              Message 6 of 13 , Oct 8, 2007
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                Hi Mark,

                Give this a try -- comments included (simple SVG file follows):

                <!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN"
                "http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd">

                <html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml" >
                <head>
                <title>Untitled Page</title>
                <script type="text/javascript">
                var svgdoc, textmap,showHide
                xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml"
                function prepare()
                {
                // svgdoc=document.sv.getSVGDocument();
                svgdoc=document.getElementById("sv").getSVGDocument();

                //(I think retrieving an embed by id is probably a bit more robust than doing it by DOM1 methods)
                textmap=svgdoc.getElementById('names')
                }

                function visibleText(showhide)
                {
                alert(showhide+textmap.nodeName)
                //this is just to make sure the textmap object was properly identified
                textmap.setAttributeNS(null,"x", 200);
                textmap.setAttributeNS(null,"visibility", showhide);

                //using setAttributeNS rather than setAttribute is consistent with the SVG spec.
                //neither IE/ASV, Opera, nor FF requires it, but some browser somewhere sometime might

                }


                </script>
                </head>

                <body onload="prepare()">
                <embed id="sv" src="testing.svg" width=400 height=200>
                <!--
                <object> doesn't allow scripting in IE/ASV
                <iframe> would be another way, but there are some oddities
                <embed> is not how the spec says to do it, but it works in IE/FF/OP/Safari
                -->

                </embed>
                <form name="form">
                show<input id="show" type="radio" name="visible" checked="checked"
                onclick="visibleText('visible')"/><br />
                hide<input id="hide" type="radio" name="visible"
                onclick="visibleText('hidden')"/>

                </form>
                </body>
                </html>

                -----------------------svg---------
                <svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="100%"
                xmlns:xlink="http://www.w3.org/1999/xlink" >
                <script><![CDATA[
                sampleVar="unnecessary";
                //]]>
                </script>
                <text font-size="12" x="5" y="20" id="names">sample text</text>
                </svg>

                ----------------

                Hope this helps and sorry if any of my old code has sent you barking up wrong DOM trees,

                David






                ----- Original Message -----
                From: mark_alsisto
                To: svg-developers@yahoogroups.com
                Sent: Monday, October 08, 2007 2:47 AM
                Subject: Re: [svg-developers] SVG with html control



                hi,
                can you help me see what's wrong with this...i cant seem to get it
                right(slow learner).

                <!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN"
                "http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd">
                <html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml" >
                <head>
                <title>Untitled Page</title>
                <script type="text/javascript">
                var svgdoc, textmap,showHide
                function prepare()
                {
                svgdoc=document.sv.getSVGDocument();
                textmap=svgdoc.getElementById('names');

                }

                function visibleText(showhide)
                {
                textmap.setAttribute("visibility", showHide);
                }

                </script>
                </head>

                <body onload="prepare()">
                //then here is where i embed my svg file.
                <form name="form">
                show<input id="show" type="radio" name="visible" checked="checked"
                onclick="visibleText(visible)"/><br />
                hide<input id="hide" type="radio" name="visible"
                onclick="visibleText(hidden)"/>

                </form>
                </body>
                </html>
                i'm using IE7 and the svg file displayed properly.
                but whenever i clicked the radio button nothing changes. Instead, the msg
                "error on page" were shown at the brower's status bar...please guide me.

                ddailey wrote:
                >
                > Sure Mark,
                >
                > Take a look at the first example at
                > http://srufaculty.sru.edu/david.dailey/svg/intro/PartF_C.html
                >
                > It works in IE/ASV, Opera 9.23, and FF (except for the SMIL). The color of
                > the SVG oval is varied through values chosen in an HTML <select>.
                >
                > The second example uses turbulence filters as controlled by radio buttons
                > in HTML, so it also won't work in FF, though it is working for me in IT
                > and Opera.
                >
                > The third example -- well let's just not talk about that one (there is an
                > error of some sort in my very old code that prevents the keystroke event
                > from being detected in Opera.)
                >
                > A slightly more adventurous example is given here.
                >
                > http://srufaculty.sru.edu/david.dailey/svg/intro/checkerembed.html
                >
                > It embeds clipPaths into an SVG from HTML and seems to be working in FF,
                > IE and Opera.
                >
                > hope this helps,
                > David
                > ----- Original Message -----
                > From: mark_alsisto
                > To: svg-developers@yahoogroups.com
                > Sent: Saturday, October 06, 2007 2:39 AM
                > Subject: Re: [svg-developers] SVG with html control
                >
                >
                >
                > hi david,
                > do you have the simpler example that you mention. i really need your
                > help.
                > i just need a simple example of how to show and hide a text in svg using
                > html radiobutton control...
                > from there...i will try to understand the coding and implement it with
                > my
                > work...
                >
                > thanx...for your reply
                >
                > ddailey wrote:
                > >
                > > In http://srufaculty.sru.edu/david.dailey/svg/waves.html
                > > (which should run in Opera and IE/ASV) little waves that distort an
                > image
                > > are created from parameters given by
                > > HTML form elements and then are embedded into the DOM and animated
                > with
                > > SMIL.
                > >
                > > It also takes advantage of the file upload (input type-file) in HTML
                > that
                > > is rather hard to duplicate in SVG alone.
                > >
                > > I have some simpler examples laying about somewhere. If such would
                > prove
                > > useful, please holler.
                > >
                > > David Dailey
                > > ----- Original Message -----
                > > From: mark_alsisto
                > > To: svg-developers@yahoogroups.com
                > > Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2007 11:40 PM
                > > Subject: [svg-developers] SVG with html control
                > >
                > >
                > > hi,
                > > can anyone give me a simple example on how i can control svg with the
                > > use of html control. for example, there are checkboxes that controls
                > > whether to display text in svg.
                > >
                > > thanx...
                > >
                > >
                > >
                > >
                > >
                > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
                > >
                > >
                > >
                >
                > --
                > View this message in context:
                > http://www.nabble.com/SVG-with-html-control-tf4550488.html#a13071161
                > Sent from the Gnome - librsvg - Dev mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
                >
                >
                >
                >
                >
                > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
                >
                >
                >
                :drunk::drunk:
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              • ddailey
                Hi Mark, Give this a try -- comments included (simple SVG file follows):
                Message 7 of 13 , Oct 8, 2007
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                  Hi Mark,

                  Give this a try -- comments included (simple SVG file follows):

                  <!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN"
                  "http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd">

                  <html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml" >
                  <head>
                  <title>Untitled Page</title>
                  <script type="text/javascript">
                  var svgdoc, textmap,showHide
                  xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml"
                  function prepare()
                  {
                  // svgdoc=document.sv.getSVGDocument();
                  svgdoc=document.getElementById("sv").getSVGDocument();

                  //(I think retrieving an embed by id is probably a bit more robust than doing it by DOM1 methods)
                  textmap=svgdoc.getElementById('names')
                  }

                  function visibleText(showhide)
                  {
                  alert(showhide+textmap.nodeName)
                  //this is just to make sure the textmap object was properly identified
                  textmap.setAttributeNS(null,"x", 200);
                  textmap.setAttributeNS(null,"visibility", showhide);

                  //using setAttributeNS rather than setAttribute is consistent with the SVG spec.
                  //neither IE/ASV, Opera, nor FF requires it, but some browser somewhere sometime might

                  }


                  </script>
                  </head>

                  <body onload="prepare()">
                  <embed id="sv" src="testing.svg" width=400 height=200>
                  <!--
                  <object> doesn't allow scripting in IE/ASV
                  <iframe> would be another way, but there are some oddities
                  <embed> is not how the spec says to do it, but it works in IE/FF/OP/Safari
                  -->

                  </embed>
                  <form name="form">
                  show<input id="show" type="radio" name="visible" checked="checked"
                  onclick="visibleText('visible')"/><br />
                  hide<input id="hide" type="radio" name="visible"
                  onclick="visibleText('hidden')"/>

                  </form>
                  </body>
                  </html>

                  -----------------------svg---------
                  <svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="100%"
                  xmlns:xlink="http://www.w3.org/1999/xlink" >
                  <script><![CDATA[
                  sampleVar="unnecessary";
                  //]]>
                  </script>
                  <text font-size="12" x="5" y="20" id="names">sample text</text>
                  </svg>

                  ----------------

                  Hope this helps and sorry if any of my old code has sent you barking up wrong DOM trees,

                  David






                  ----- Original Message -----
                  From: mark_alsisto
                  To: svg-developers@yahoogroups.com
                  Sent: Monday, October 08, 2007 2:47 AM
                  Subject: Re: [svg-developers] SVG with html control



                  hi,
                  can you help me see what's wrong with this...i cant seem to get it
                  right(slow learner).



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