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Re: Epictetus' 3 Topi: Learning to be Attentive

Dave and Ed- I agree with Ed on this one.  'Moral', although used by many including Keith and Julia Annas, has that problem of bringing common use baggage
Steve Marquis
8:54 AM
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36934

Re: Epictetus' 3 Topi: Learning to be Attentive

... This is not what we have been "talking about". We have been talking about the phrase "moral character" which Epictetus does not use. Dave (before): keep
Edwin
8:48 AM
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36933

Re: Epictetus' 3 Topi: Learning to be Attentive

... Dave (before): "Moral character" is one fair translation of Epictetus' very frequent use of '_prohairesis_". Ed (before): Who says? Dave: I agree with
ptypes
5:24 AM
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36932

Re: Epictetus' 3 Topi: Learning to be Attentive

Dave (before): "Moral character" is one fair translation of Epictetus' very frequent use of '_prohairesis_". Ed (before): Who says? Dave: I agree with Keith
Edwin
3:18 AM
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36931

Re: Epictetus' 3 Topi: Learning to be Attentive

My understanding is that The Handbook is a (later) attempt to summarise key points from the Discourses. I have problems with a number of items in the Handbook
Edwin
3:17 AM
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36930

Re: Changing your fundamental beliefs is not easy

Steve: The unconscious and its impact on our conscious life has been well established for some time. I don't deny that there are unconscious processes, but for
Dave Kelly
Apr 25
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36929

Re: Epictetus' 3 Topi: Learning to be Attentive

On Sat, Apr 25, 2015 at 11:18 AM, 'Edwin' edwinjones826@... ... As far as I know it doesn't originate in the Discourses. ... Regards, Dave -- Value
Dave Kelly
Apr 25
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36928

Re: Epictetus' 3 Topi: Learning to be Attentive

On Sat, Apr 25, 2015 at 11:18 AM, 'Edwin' edwinjones826@... ... I agree with Keith Seddon: http://goo.gl/Ge48JP ... No, I can't. Translators have used
Dave Kelly
Apr 25
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36927

Re: Epictetus' 3 Topi: Learning to be Attentive

Grant: . . . this passage isn't referring to determinism, it's referring to the idea that all external events are in the control of the all-wise and all-good
Edwin
Apr 25
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36926

Re: Epictetus' 3 Topi: Learning to be Attentive

... Can you provide a reference to the Discourse where this originates? Ed From: mailto:stoics@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2015 3:13 PM To:
Edwin
Apr 25
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36925

Re: Epictetus' 3 Topi: Learning to be Attentive

... Who says? Long and Higginson don't seem to agree with this. Can you point out some places in Long/Higginson where prohairesis is translated to something
Edwin
Apr 25
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36924

Re: Changing your fundamental beliefs is not easy

On Fri, Apr 24, 2015 at 4:41 PM, Steve Marquis stevemarquis@... ... How would this theory of the unconscious affect Stoic theory, which I agree with
Dave Kelly
Apr 25
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36923

Re: Changing your fundamental beliefs is not easy

Davewrites: _________________ Stoicshold that we have these emotional commitments to things because we value thosethings as goods. Stop making the judgments
Steve Marquis
Apr 24
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36922

Re: Changing your fundamental beliefs is not easy

... Dave- What is the email equivalent of throwing up my arms? These are the same. Why do you think we have these emotional commitments? These are well
ptypes
Apr 24
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36921

Re: Changing your fundamental beliefs is not easy

Dave- What is the email equivalent of throwing up my arms?  These are the same.  Why do you think we have these emotional commitments?  These are well
Steve Marquis
Apr 24
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