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Re: The Key to Clutter-Free: making a choice

Dave- I understand using the phrase 'making a choice' to mean in this case actually carrying through with what has already been intellectually determined as
Steve Marquis
2:22 PM
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36995

The Key to Clutter-Free: making a choice

I have had a long-standing problem with accumulating clutter, with messiness, and so forth. I can see (clearly) now that the key to being clutter-free is
ptypes
1:37 PM
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36994

Re: The Moral life

Ed(and Grant and Dave)- Sincewe articulate what is best for ourselves yet fail to do those things (commonlyall the time) this definition of choice doesn’t
Steve Marquis
7:59 AM
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36993

Re: The Moral life

Steve: does anyone have some insight into what fills the gap between passive choice and active will? Grant: Given what I said in my last post, I don't think
Edwin
3:55 AM
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36992

Re: The Moral life

... How do you conclude these two options are conflicting "goods"? It looks like a "good" and a "bad" to me? I'd like to 'tweak' this example a little.
Edwin
3:55 AM
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36991

Re: The Moral life

... ***** Given what I said in my last post, I don't think there is any gap in the first place. But even if I believed in the gap, I couldn't accept any of
Grant Sterling
May 21
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36990

Re: The Moral life

... All: As usual, let me start by making some distinctions.... I try to avoid talking about the "unconscious", partly because the term has Freudian
Grant Sterling
May 21
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36989

Re: The Moral life

... Upbringing! Strength of (proper) character! Strength of mind! An appropriate disposition of the will! Ed [in haste] From: mailto:stoics@yahoogroups.com
Edwin
May 21
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36988

Re: The Moral life

We're talking about Epictetus' Stoicism I think? ... Consider: "Nothing need be added to Mrs Carter's sketch of the Stoic philosophy and its most interesting
Edwin
May 21
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36987

Re: The Moral life

On Wed, May 20, 2015 at 4:43 PM, Steve Marquis stevemarquis@... ... As choosing to assent to a judgment that something anticipated is good is a desire
Dave Kelly
May 20
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36986

Re: The Moral life

You mean end of discussion - we all go home? Dave - you can define choice and act of will to be equal if you want - just like Ed can use will instead of choice
Steve Marquis
May 20
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36985

Re: The Moral life

... Dave- ‘Moral good’ in this context refers back to what is best for the organism starting with self-preservation. This of course will follow through to
ptypes
May 20
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36984

Re: The Moral life

Dave- ‘Moralgood’ in this context refers back to what is best for the organism startingwith self-preservation.  This of coursewill follow through to what
Steve Marquis
May 20
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36983

Re: The Moral life

I grabbed these quotes of Pierre Hadot from Reddit Stoicism. They are relevant to this thread because in them Hadot links the moral life and choice. What I
ptypes
May 20
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36982

Re: The Moral life

Dave (before): "Choice" implies alternatives to pick from, but "will" does not. Ed (before): Look at my table: . . . At point (*) the agent "picks from" the
Edwin
May 19
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