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338Re: [STERN] Any stern from Spain like me?

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  • patricia zonshain
    Jan 20, 2005
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      daniel hola
      tengo parientes de apellido stern, que originalmente era sztern de vladimir volinski, y eran (son) cohanim.
      tengo el arbol en http://www.tribalpages.com/tribes?userid=patyzon
      quien te dice y terminamos siendo parientes ;-)
      hoy la familia stern viven en canada e israel.
      chau

      Daniel Sztern <danszt@...> wrote:
      salud amigos!!!
      yo soy de la linea polaca SZTERN y mantengo la Z, anque me consta que muchos han simplificado, utilizando Stern.
      Como comentario al amigo de España, hay un libro "El Lobby judío en España" que tiene un título infeliz, porque induce a tufillo antisemita, pero es un libro interesante y trae 5000 apellidos de origen sefardi y par ami sorpresa, Stern aparece entre ellos.
      Las migraciones forzosas, incluyendo la terrible epoca Inquisicion, hizo qeu los sefardies de España y Portugal vayan a Holanda y paises "azkenazíes" y a America,
      en fin, saludos a todos desde Uruguay
      Shalom Aleijem
      Daniel Sztern
      danszt@...

      patricia zonshain <patyzon@...> wrote:
      que es lo que buscas? el significado? quiere decir 'estrella'. y fue puesto a los judios que tenian una estrella de adorno en sus casas.


      stern= muchos apellidos judios derivan de "expresiones del idioma hablado".
      la palabra alemana de "estrella", stern es documentada como apellido judio desde el siglo XVII en las ciudades
      alemanas de frankfurt, main y hamburgo, y praga (bohemia).
      tambien otros equivalentes son astrum (en latin), astruc (en provenzal) y etoile (en frances), del termino derivan
      otros nombres, como "nacido con buena estrella",corre con otras estructuras a estelle y stella, de sternlieb a
      sternau.
      indirectamente la familia stern se representaba con signo tradicional en las casas en frankfurt y otras ciudades
      alemanas, algunos representados con estrellas. la familia stern vivia en la casa denominada "stern" (estrella) en
      la ciudad en el siglo XV.
      en algunos casos stern es un nombre toponimico (derivado de lugares de origen y/o residencia), asociados con la
      villa de sternian en la rusia blanca (siberia), donde el nombre era abreviado a sternin y eventualmente a stern.
      en la tradicion judia, las estrellas son asociadas como metaforas y simbolos. fueron usados en la biblia figurativamente,
      en el sueno de jose donde sus pedres son representados como el sol y la luna, y sus once hermanos como once
      estrellas (genesis 9-10).
      la controvercial profesia de balaam, la estrella q' subira de jacob y la tribu de israel (numeros 24.17), fue simon de
      koseba de juda, quien su nombre mesianico es bar kochba (en hebreo "hijo de la estrella", trasladado al aleman
      sternsohn). bar kochba fue contra los romanos (132-135) y reconquisto jerusalem.
      la sexagonal estrella, conocida como maguen david, fundada en el siglo XVII, en sidon, es el simbolo universal
      de reconocimiento del judaismo en todo el mundo, desde el sionismo hasta el estado de israel.
      stern= many jewish family names are derived from vernacular expressions. the german word for "star", stern is documented
      as a jewish family name since the 17th century in the german cities of frankfurt am main and hamburg, and in prague (bohemia).
      together with other equivalents such as astrum (latin), astruc (provencal) and etoile (french), the term has produced votive names,
      meaning "born under a good star", ranging from bonus astrux and benestruc to estelle and stella, from sternlieb to
      sternau.
      an indirect source os stern as a family names is represented by the traditional house signs in frankfurt and other
      german cities, many of which displayed stars. a stern family living in a house called "stern" (star) is recorder in the city in the
      15th century.
      in some cases stern is a toponymic surname (i.e.derived from places of origin or residence), associated with the
      village of sterniany in white russia, whose name is said to have been abbreviated to sternin and eventually stern.
      in jewish tradition, stars are associated with metaphors and symbolical meaning. they are used in the bible in a
      figurative sense, as in joseph's dream in which his parents are represented by the sun and moon, and his eleven
      brothers by eleven stars (genesis 9-10).
      balaam's controversial prophecy that a star shall step out of jacob and a sceptre rise out of israel (numbers 24.17)
      was said to have been fulfilled by simon of koseba in judah, who was given the messianic byname bar kochba
      (the hebrew for "son of the stars" traslated into the german name sternsohn). bar kochba led the last big jewish
      rising against the romans (132-135) and re-conquered jerusalem before being defeated by hadrian's general severus.
      the hexagonal star, known as maguen david (shield od david), found on a hebrew seal from the seventh century
      b.c.e., discovered in sidon, has become the universally recognised symbol of judaism all over the world, of zionism
      and the state of israel.


      bg_stern <bg_stern@...> wrote:

      Hola a todos.
      Mi apellido es stern, pero desconozco su origen.
      Alguna ayuda?
      Gracias
      Bernardo Gómez Stern





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