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RE: [stereohunter] Re: Comet in HI1a - 20080219 - Kreutz - Unknown SOHO??

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  • Matson, Robert D.
    Hi Alan, It s definitely a Kreutz comet -- I can easily see it in more than a half dozen frames... Congrats! --Rob ... From:
    Message 1 of 14 , Feb 21, 2008
      Hi Alan,

      It's definitely a Kreutz comet -- I can easily see it in more
      than a half dozen frames... Congrats! --Rob

      -----Original Message-----
      From:
      sentto-18917646-433-1203637656-matsonr=saic.com@...
      [mailto:sentto-18917646-433-1203637656-matsonr=saic.com@....y
      ahoo.com] On Behalf Of rainerkracht
      Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2008 3:48 PM
      To: stereohunter@yahoogroups.com
      Subject: [stereohunter] Re: Comet in HI1a - 20080219 - Kreutz - Unknown
      SOHO??

      --- In stereohunter@yahoogroups.com, "algwat" <awat4309@...> wrote:
      >
      > Could you guys please double check this? kind reagrds, Alan.
      > 1 H1a:20080219_184901_s4h1A 1021 637 28 35.651
      > 2 H1a:20080219_180901_s4h1A 1016 641 27 32.955
      > 3 H1a:20080219_172901_s4h1A 1011 644 26 27.641
      > 4 H1a:20080219_160901_s4h1A 999 653 24 26.401
      > 5 H1a:20080219_152901_s4h1A 995 656 23 25.239
      > 6 H1a:20080219_144901_s4h1A 989 660 22 24.637
      > 7 H1a:20080219_140901_s4h1A 985 663 21 24.042
      > 8 H1a:20080219_120901_s4h1A 969 674 18 27.276
      > 9 H1a:20080219_112901_s4h1A 964 677 17 30.643
      > 10 H1a:20080219_104901_s4h1A 959 681 16 24.900
      >
      Hi Alan,

      the velocity is good
      the 160901 image looks good
      the 180901 and 184901 images are convincing

      I think this is a real Kreutz group comet!

      Regards,
      Rainer
    • Alan Watson
      ... Thanks Rob, Its in these secchi images also, Label X Y Z Value 1 hi1a:20080219_184901_tbh1A 1021 637 6 70 2 hi1a:20080219_180901_tbh1A 1015 641 5 68 3
      Message 2 of 14 , Feb 21, 2008
        >It's definitely a Kreutz comet -- I can easily see it in more
        >than a half dozen frames... Congrats! --Rob
         
        Thanks Rob,
        Its in these secchi images also,

          Label X Y Z Value 
        1 hi1a:20080219_184901_tbh1A 1021 637 6 70 
        2 hi1a:20080219_180901_tbh1A 1015 641 5 68 
        3 hi1a:20080219_172901_tbh1A 1009 645 4 66 
        4 hi1a:20080219_160901_tbh1A 998 652 2 58 
        5 hi1a:20080219_152901_tbh1A 994 655 1 67 
        6 hi1a:20080219_144901_tbh1A 989 659 0 58
         
        Kind regards, Alan.
      • Ian Musgrave & Peta O'Donohue
        G Day Alan Oh come on, not anotherone, so soon? Congratulations Alan, you must have square eyes now! ... Cheers! Ian
        Message 3 of 14 , Feb 22, 2008
          G'Day Alan

          Oh come on, not anotherone, so soon?
          Congratulations Alan, you must have square eyes now!

          At 09:45 AM 22/02/2008, you wrote:
          >Could you guys please double check this? kind reagrds, Alan.
          >1 H1a:20080219_184901_s4h1A 1021 637 28 35.651
          >2 H1a:20080219_180901_s4h1A 1016 641 27 32.955


          Cheers! Ian

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        • Alan Watson
          Gidday all, I am going for a Hat trick on these next positions. Please check it out. 1 H1a:20080220_084901_s4h1A 817 802 83 15.652 2 H1a:20080220_080901_s4h1A
          Message 4 of 14 , Feb 22, 2008
            Gidday all,
            I am going for a Hat trick on these next positions. Please check it out.
            1 H1a:20080220_084901_s4h1A 817 802 83 15.652 
            2 H1a:20080220_080901_s4h1A 814 804 82 21.354 
            3 H1a:20080220_072901_s4h1A 809 808 81 13.675 
            4 H1a:20080220_064901_s4h1A 804 812 80 14.036 
            5 H1a:20080220_052901_s4h1A 796 817 78 19.698 
            6 H1a:20080220_040901_s4h1A 789 822 76 16.492 
             
            Thanks Ian. this one is near the asteroid Pallas in the images.
             
            Kind regards, ALan.

            ----- Original Message -----
            Sent: Friday, February 22, 2008 11:54 PM
            Subject: Re: [stereohunter] Comet in HI1a - 20080219 - Kreutz - Unknown SOHO??

            G'Day Alan

            Oh come on, not anotherone, so soon?
            Congratulations Alan, you must have square eyes now!

            At 09:45 AM 22/02/2008, you wrote:
            >Could you guys please double check this? kind reagrds, Alan.
            >1 H1a:20080219_ 184901_s4h1A 1021 637 28 35.651
            >2 H1a:20080219_ 180901_s4h1A 1016 641 27 32.955

            Cheers! Ian

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          • Alan Watson
            These are better measures. regards, Alan. 1 H1a:20080220_084901_s4h1A 816 802 83 24.940 2 H1a:20080220_080901_s4h1A 813 804 82 19.925 3
            Message 5 of 14 , Feb 22, 2008
              These are better measures.
               regards, Alan.
              1 H1a:20080220_084901_s4h1A 816 802 83 24.940 
              2 H1a:20080220_080901_s4h1A 813 804 82 19.925 
              3 H1a:20080220_072901_s4h1A 808 808 81 19.391 
              4 H1a:20080220_064901_s4h1A 804 812 80 14.036 
              5 H1a:20080220_060901_s4h1A 800 814 79 19.698 
              6 H1a:20080220_052901_s4h1A 797 816 78 17.117 
              7 H1a:20080220_040901_s4h1A 789 822 76 16.492 
              ----- Original Message -----
              Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2008 8:16 AM
              Subject: Re: [stereohunter] Comet in HI1a - 20080219 - Kreutz - Unknown SOHO??

              Gidday all,
              I am going for a Hat trick on these next positions. Please check it out.
              1 H1a:20080220_ 084901_s4h1A 817 802 83 15.652 
              2 H1a:20080220_ 080901_s4h1A 814 804 82 21.354 
              3 H1a:20080220_ 072901_s4h1A 809 808 81 13.675 
              4 H1a:20080220_ 064901_s4h1A 804 812 80 14.036 
              5 H1a:20080220_ 052901_s4h1A 796 817 78 19.698 
              6 H1a:20080220_ 040901_s4h1A 789 822 76 16.492 
               
              Thanks Ian. this one is near the asteroid Pallas in the images.
               
              Kind regards, ALan.

              ----- Original Message -----
              Sent: Friday, February 22, 2008 11:54 PM
              Subject: Re: [stereohunter] Comet in HI1a - 20080219 - Kreutz - Unknown SOHO??

              G'Day Alan

              Oh come on, not anotherone, so soon?
              Congratulations Alan, you must have square eyes now!

              At 09:45 AM 22/02/2008, you wrote:
              >Could you guys please double check this? kind reagrds, Alan.
              >1 H1a:20080219_ 184901_s4h1A 1021 637 28 35.651
              >2 H1a:20080219_ 180901_s4h1A 1016 641 27 32.955

              Cheers! Ian

              ============ ========= ========= ========= ========= ======
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              Thomas Musgrave
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              (scroll down right hand menu)
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            • rainerkracht
              ... out. ... Hi Alan, I have found this independly as 0729 808 808 0809 812 805 0549 815 802 Feb 20 HI1A (0,0) upper left and I m waiting for the next
              Message 6 of 14 , Feb 22, 2008
                --- In stereohunter@yahoogroups.com, "Alan Watson" <awat4309@...> wrote:
                >
                > Gidday all,
                > I am going for a Hat trick on these next positions. Please check it
                out.
                > 1 H1a:20080220_084901_s4h1A 817 802 83 15.652
                > 2 H1a:20080220_080901_s4h1A 814 804 82 21.354
                > 3 H1a:20080220_072901_s4h1A 809 808 81 13.675
                > 4 H1a:20080220_064901_s4h1A 804 812 80 14.036
                > 5 H1a:20080220_052901_s4h1A 796 817 78 19.698
                > 6 H1a:20080220_040901_s4h1A 789 822 76 16.492
                >
                > Thanks Ian. this one is near the asteroid Pallas in the images.
                >
                > Kind regards, ALan.
                >
                Hi Alan,

                I have found this independly as
                0729 808 808
                0809 812 805
                0549 815 802
                Feb 20 HI1A (0,0) upper left

                and I'm waiting for the next images

                Regards,
                Rainer
              • Matson, Robert D.
                Hi Alan, Definitely another comet! Noticeably further to the left than the last one... I can see it in at least 16 frames. For example, it s easy to see
                Message 7 of 14 , Feb 22, 2008
                  Hi Alan,
                   
                  Definitely another comet!  Noticeably further to the left than the last one...
                  I can see it in at least 16 frames.  For example, it's easy to see here:
                   
                  H1a:20080219_224901_s4h1A 761 843
                   
                    --Rob


                  From: sentto-18917646-439-1203714800-matsonr=saic.com@... [mailto:sentto-18917646-439-1203714800-matsonr=saic.com@...] On Behalf Of Alan Watson
                  Sent: Friday, February 22, 2008 1:17 PM
                  To: stereohunter@yahoogroups.com
                  Subject: Re: [stereohunter] Comet in HI1a - 20080219 - Kreutz - Unknown SOHO??

                  Gidday all,
                  I am going for a Hat trick on these next positions. Please check it out.
                  1 H1a:20080220_084901_s4h1A 817 802 83 15.652 
                  2 H1a:20080220_080901_s4h1A 814 804 82 21.354 
                  3 H1a:20080220_072901_s4h1A 809 808 81 13.675 
                  4 H1a:20080220_064901_s4h1A 804 812 80 14.036 
                  5 H1a:20080220_052901_s4h1A 796 817 78 19.698 
                  6 H1a:20080220_040901_s4h1A 789 822 76 16.492 
                   
                  Thanks Ian. this one is near the asteroid Pallas in the images.
                   
                  Kind regards, ALan.
                • rainerkracht
                  ... it ... Yes, it s definitely there: 1329 843 782 1409 847 779 1449 851 776 1529 854 773 Congratulations! Regards, Rainer
                  Message 8 of 14 , Feb 22, 2008
                    --- In stereohunter@yahoogroups.com, "rainerkracht" <r.kracht@...>
                    wrote:
                    >
                    > --- In stereohunter@yahoogroups.com, "Alan Watson" <awat4309@>
                    wrote:
                    > >
                    > > Gidday all,
                    > > I am going for a Hat trick on these next positions. Please check
                    it
                    > out.
                    > > 1 H1a:20080220_084901_s4h1A 817 802 83 15.652
                    > > 2 H1a:20080220_080901_s4h1A 814 804 82 21.354
                    > > 3 H1a:20080220_072901_s4h1A 809 808 81 13.675
                    > > 4 H1a:20080220_064901_s4h1A 804 812 80 14.036
                    > > 5 H1a:20080220_052901_s4h1A 796 817 78 19.698
                    > > 6 H1a:20080220_040901_s4h1A 789 822 76 16.492
                    > >
                    > > Thanks Ian. this one is near the asteroid Pallas in the images.
                    > >
                    > > Kind regards, ALan.
                    > >
                    > Hi Alan,
                    >
                    > I have found this independly as
                    > 0729 808 808
                    > 0809 812 805
                    > 0549 815 802
                    > Feb 20 HI1A (0,0) upper left
                    >
                    > and I'm waiting for the next images
                    >
                    > Regards,
                    > Rainer
                    >
                    Yes, it's definitely there:
                    1329 843 782
                    1409 847 779
                    1449 851 776
                    1529 854 773

                    Congratulations!

                    Regards,
                    Rainer
                  • Alan Watson
                    Gidday Rob, Yes , when I animated the last two days I see motion further down. I still get a lot of noise so am reluctant to cal any thing. My limits are above
                    Message 9 of 14 , Feb 22, 2008
                      Gidday Rob,
                      Yes , when I animated the last two days I see motion further down.
                      I still get a lot of noise so am reluctant to cal any thing.
                      My limits are above  my pixel values of 15.
                      Karls, gone for the weekend so will have to wait for confirm from him on Monday.
                       
                      Kind regards, Alan.
                       
                      ----- Original Message -----
                      Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2008 8:47 AM
                      Subject: [stereohunter] Comet in HI1a - 20080219/0220 - Kreutz - confirmed

                      Hi Alan,
                       
                      Definitely another comet!  Noticeably further to the left than the last one...
                      I can see it in at least 16 frames.  For example, it's easy to see here:
                       
                      H1a:20080219_ 224901_s4h1A 761 843
                       
                        --Rob


                      From: sentto-18917646- 439-1203714800- matsonr=saic. com@returns. groups.yahoo. com [mailto:sentto- 18917646- 439-1203714800- matsonr=saic. com@returns. groups.yahoo. com] On Behalf Of Alan Watson
                      Sent: Friday, February 22, 2008 1:17 PM
                      To: stereohunter@ yahoogroups. com
                      Subject: Re: [stereohunter] Comet in HI1a - 20080219 - Kreutz - Unknown SOHO??

                      Gidday all,
                      I am going for a Hat trick on these next positions. Please check it out.
                      1 H1a:20080220_ 084901_s4h1A 817 802 83 15.652 
                      2 H1a:20080220_ 080901_s4h1A 814 804 82 21.354 
                      3 H1a:20080220_ 072901_s4h1A 809 808 81 13.675 
                      4 H1a:20080220_ 064901_s4h1A 804 812 80 14.036 
                      5 H1a:20080220_ 052901_s4h1A 796 817 78 19.698 
                      6 H1a:20080220_ 040901_s4h1A 789 822 76 16.492 
                       
                      Thanks Ian. this one is near the asteroid Pallas in the images.
                       
                      Kind regards, ALan.

                    • Ian Musgrave & Peta O'Donohue
                      G Day Alan Congratulations cubed!, This one is much easier to pick up compared to 1 and 2. But I literally cannot keep up with you. My service provider has
                      Message 10 of 14 , Feb 23, 2008
                        G'Day Alan

                        Congratulations cubed!, This one is much easier to pick up compared to 1 and 2.

                        But I literally cannot keep up with you. My service provider has
                        decide that rather than charge us for downloads over our limit, they
                        will cut back the service speed, so I have to download the data
                        overnight and try and analyze it during the day (and I can't complete
                        with my sons cricket). Hence my very late confirmations.

                        I've tried to work out how you do your "colourizing", but I have
                        failed. Any hints?

                        Pallas is such an easy marker, but there are so many asteroids in
                        that field! It is beautiful! (and, just possibly something
                        interesting in the top righthand corner)

                        Can you find Uranus?

                        At 07:46 AM 23/02/2008, you wrote:
                        >Gidday all,
                        >I am going for a Hat trick on these next positions. Please check it out.
                        >1 H1a:20080220_084901_s4h1A 817 802 83 15.652
                        >2 H1a:20080220_080901_s4h1A 814 804 82 21.354

                        ======================================================
                        Ian Musgrave Peta O'Donohue, Jack Francis, Michael James and Andrew
                        Thomas Musgrave
                        reynella@... http://home.mira.net/~reynella/
                        Southern Sky Watch http://www.abc.net.au/science/space/default.htm
                        (scroll down right hand menu)
                        AstroBlogg http://astroblogger.blogspot.com/
                        Contributing Editor, Sky & Space
                        http://www.skyandspace.com.au/public/home.ehtml
                      • Alan Watson
                        Gidday Ian. ... Many thanks for this, yes I think its a hat trick . Again, its up to Comet Captain Karl. ... In imageJ the last button is drop down menu,
                        Message 11 of 14 , Feb 23, 2008
                          Gidday Ian.
                           
                          >Congratulations cubed!,
                          Many thanks for this, yes I think its a 'hat trick'.
                          Again, its up to Comet Captain Karl.

                          >I've tried to work out how you do your "colourizing" , but I have
                          >failed. Any
                          hints?
                          In imageJ the last button is drop down menu, select lookup tables(LUT).
                          Works for 8bit and 32bit images but not RGB images.
                           
                          >(and, just possibly something
                          >interesting in the top
                          righthand corner)
                          Measure some x,y locations. What do you see here?

                          >Can you find Uranus?
                          This passed through already, look back to last month images.
                          Neptune was also detectable, very slow movers.
                          Not Pluto however as its at 14Mag or there abouts.
                          Just check that some of the moving pixels your are seeing are not
                          artifacts. Asteroids slide a little bit slower, mostly.
                           
                          >But I literally cannot keep up with you.
                          Please don't try ,,, :).
                          I am sure I can get to 200 if you guys don't try too hard.
                          But Rainer and Rob are on the case so, there is already hard competion.
                          And I think Rainer may have SECCHI-4....?
                           
                           

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