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  • Alan Watson
    Gidday Toni, Here are some C3 and C2 positions , Looks like this would Jiangao s C2 detection, rgds Alan. Dec 04 2009 09:01:49 Jiangao Ruan (0,0)upleft
    Message 1 of 21 , Dec 7, 2009
      
      Gidday Toni,
      Here are some C3 and C2 positions , Looks like this would Jiangao's C2
      detection, rgds Alan.
      Dec 04 2009 09:01:49 Jiangao Ruan
      (0,0)upleft 1024x1024 images
      1 c3:20091204_1142_c3_1024 103 429 660 20
      2 c3:20091204_1118_c3_1024 102 429 663 19
      3 c3:20091204_1042_c3_1024 104 429 669 18
      4 c3:20091204_1020_c3_1024 101 429 672 17
      5 c3:20091204_1342_c3_1024 105 428 641 22
      6 c3:20091204_1442_c3_1024 104 428 632 24
      7 c3:20091204_1518_c3_1024 100 428 626 25
      8 c2:20091204_1354_c2_1024 118 144 1008 35
      9 c2:20091204_1406_c2_1024 95 143 999 36
      10 c2:20091204_1430_c2_1024 67 143 980 37
      11 c2:20091204_1508_c2_1024 114 144 953 38
      12 c2:20091204_1630_c2_1024 94 147 887 39
      13 c2:20091204_1654_c2_1024 56 147 868 40
      14 c3:20091204_0818_c3_1024 96 431 691 14
      15 c3:20091204_0742_c3_1024 105 431 696 13
      ----- Original Message -----
      Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 6:34 AM
      Subject: Re: [stereohunter] bright comet in h1a

       

       

       

      Position H1A 20091204 (0,0) upper left, resolution 1024x1024 
       
       
      00:09:01   957,680
      00:49:01   960,682
      01:29:01   967,678
      02:09:01   970,672
      02:46:01   976,668
      03:26:01   980,664
      04:49:01   988,654
      05:29:01   995,650
      06:09:01 1000,646
      06:49:01 1004,643
      07:29:01 1009,640
      08:09:01 1014,634
      08:49:01 1004,643
       
      This is a know comet? Other postions at more soon.
       
      regards,
      Toni Scarmato

    • Toni Scarmato
      Hi Alan. Many thanks. Do you know the FOV of H1A? Is like to that of the C3? Regards Toni From: Alan Watson Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 9:34 PM To:
      Message 2 of 21 , Dec 7, 2009
        Hi Alan.  Many thanks. 
        Do you know the FOV of H1A?  Is like  to that of the C3?
         
        Regards
        Toni

        Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 9:34 PM
        Subject: Re: [stereohunter] bright comet in h1a

         

        

        Gidday Toni,
        Here are some C3 and C2 positions , Looks like this would Jiangao's C2
        detection, rgds Alan.
        Dec 04 2009 09:01:49 Jiangao Ruan
        (0,0)upleft 1024x1024 images
        1 c3:20091204_ 1142_c3_1024 103 429 660 20
        2 c3:20091204_ 1118_c3_1024 102 429 663 19
        3 c3:20091204_ 1042_c3_1024 104 429 669 18
        4 c3:20091204_ 1020_c3_1024 101 429 672 17
        5 c3:20091204_ 1342_c3_1024 105 428 641 22
        6 c3:20091204_ 1442_c3_1024 104 428 632 24
        7 c3:20091204_ 1518_c3_1024 100 428 626 25
        8 c2:20091204_ 1354_c2_1024 118 144 1008 35
        9 c2:20091204_ 1406_c2_1024 95 143 999 36
        10 c2:20091204_ 1430_c2_1024 67 143 980 37
        11 c2:20091204_ 1508_c2_1024 114 144 953 38
        12 c2:20091204_ 1630_c2_1024 94 147 887 39
        13 c2:20091204_ 1654_c2_1024 56 147 868 40
        14 c3:20091204_ 0818_c3_1024 96 431 691 14
        15 c3:20091204_ 0742_c3_1024 105 431 696 13
        ----- Original Message -----
        Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 6:34 AM
        Subject: Re: [stereohunter] bright comet in h1a

         

         

         

        Position H1A 20091204 (0,0) upper left, resolution 1024x1024 
         
         
        00:09:01   957,680
        00:49:01   960,682
        01:29:01   967,678
        02:09:01   970,672
        02:46:01   976,668
        03:26:01   980,664
        04:49:01   988,654
        05:29:01   995,650
        06:09:01 1000,646
        06:49:01 1004,643
        07:29:01 1009,640
        08:09:01 1014,634
        08:49:01 1004,643
         
        This is a know comet? Other postions at more soon.
         
        regards,
        Toni Scarmato

      • Alan Watson
        Gidday Toni, ... Here is an approximation on the plane of view for STEREO A(red) & B(blue), and C3(green). Not to scale , you can use this to get feel for the
        Message 3 of 21 , Dec 9, 2009
        
        Gidday Toni,
         
        >Do you know the FOV of H1A?  Is like  to that of the C3?
         
        Here is an approximation on the plane of view for STEREO A(red) & B(blue), and C3(green).
        Not to scale , you can use this to get feel for the over lap of FOV.
        STEREOA & B are now essentially left and right side view to C3.  
         
        Kind regards, Alan.
         
      • Toni Scarmato
        Gidday Toni, ...
        Message 4 of 21 , Dec 9, 2009
          Gidday Toni,
           
          >Do you know the FOV of H1A?  Is like  to that of the C3?
           
          <Here is an approximation on the plane of view for STEREO A(red) & B(blue), and C3(green).
          <Not to scale , you can use this to get feel for the over lap of FOV.
          <STEREOA & B are now essentially left and right side view to C3.  
           
          Thanks Alan. 
          I saw the actual positions of stereo a and b in the site, so if I understand well the field, the bright object in H1A is mercury.
           
          At soon
          toni
        • Alan Watson
          Gidday Toni, ... No this one is Jupiter, mercury should enter FOV next few days. Neptune is been in the HI1A FOV also moving very very slow. kind regards,
          Message 5 of 21 , Dec 9, 2009
            
            Gidday  Toni,
            >I saw the actual positions of stereo a and b in the site, so if I understand well the field, the bright object in H1A is mercury.
            No this one is Jupiter, mercury should enter FOV next few days. Neptune is been in the HI1A FOV also moving very very slow.
             
            kind regards, Alan.
             
            ----- Original Message -----
            Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 10:21 PM
            Subject: Re: [stereohunter] bright comet in h1a

             

            Gidday Toni,
             
            >Do you know the FOV of H1A?  Is like  to that of the C3?
             
            <Here is an approximation on the plane of view for STEREO A(red) & B(blue), and C3(green).
            <Not to scale , you can use this to get feel for the over lap of FOV.
            <STEREOA & B are now essentially left and right side view to C3.  
             
            Thanks Alan. 
            I saw the actual positions of stereo a and b in the site, so if I understand well the field, the bright object in H1A is mercury.
             
            At soon
            toni

          • Ian Musgrave & Peta O'Donohue
            G Day All ... No, it s Jupiter. From the point of view of Stereo A, Mercury is below the Sun. The FOX of Stereo A is approximate 20 degrees x 20 degrees, but
            Message 6 of 21 , Dec 9, 2009
              G'Day All

              At 09:51 PM 9/12/2009, Toni wrote:
              >Gidday Toni,
              >
              > >Do you know the FOV of H1A? Is like to that of the C3?
              >
              ><Here is an approximation on the plane of view for STEREO A(red) &
              >B(blue), and C3(green).
              ><Not to scale , you can use this to get feel for the over lap of FOV.
              ><STEREOA & B are now essentially left and right side view to C3.
              >
              >Thanks Alan.
              >I saw the actual positions of stereo a and b in the site, so if I
              >understand well the field, the bright object in H1A is mercury.

              No, it's Jupiter. From the point of view of Stereo A, Mercury is
              below the Sun. The FOX of Stereo A is approximate 20 degrees x 20
              degrees, but because stereo is offset from earths point of view, the
              planets (and asteroids and comets) are shifted with regard to where
              we would see them.

              The central star just above Jupiter is iota Aquarii, and the slow
              mover to the left of Jupiter, near delta capricornii, is probably 37 Fides.

              If you have Celestia, you can add the orbits of Stereo A and Stero B
              to get a good idea of where they are looking. Celestia files below
              ==============STEREO.ssc===============================
              "STEREO-A" "Sol"
              {
              Class "spacecraft"
              Mesh "rosetta.3ds"
              Radius 0.005


              EllipticalOrbit
              {
              Epoch 2454926.500000000 # = A.D. 2009-Apr-05 00:00:00.0000
              Period 0.93326171
              SemiMajorAxis 0.95539896
              Eccentricity 0.00956256
              Inclination 0.12547128
              AscendingNode 214.52049481
              ArgOfPericenter 127.85192
              MeanAnomaly 259.41452171
              }


              Albedo 0.5
              }


              "STEREO-B" "Sol"
              {
              Class "spacecraft"
              Mesh "rosetta.3ds"
              Radius 0.005


              EllipticalOrbit
              {
              Epoch 2454926.500000000 #= A.D. 2009-Apr-05 00:00:00.0000
              Period 1.078152
              SemiMajorAxis 1.051887
              Eccentricity 0.004440
              Inclination 0.293495
              AscendingNode 336.1030577498578
              ArgOfPericenter 151.6537286278057
              MeanAnomaly 18.37796930629710
              }


              Albedo 0.5
              }
              ========================================================================

              Cheers! Ian

              ======================================================
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              Thomas Musgrave
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            • Ian Musgrave & Peta O'Donohue
              G Day All ... This image gives a better idea of the location of STEREO A current view. Cheers! Ian ====================================================== Ian
              Message 7 of 21 , Dec 9, 2009
              G'Day All

              At 09:51 PM 9/12/2009, Toni wrote:

              >Thanks Alan.
              >I saw the actual positions of stereo a and b in the site, so if I
              >understand well the field, the bright object in H1A is mercury.


              This image gives a better idea of the location of STEREO A' current view.

              Cheers! Ian

              ======================================================
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              Thomas Musgrave
              reynella@... http://home.mira.net/~reynella/
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            • Toni Scarmato
              Hi Ian. I am looking in my Planetary Megastar. I must to say that is not easy to verify the FOV. Many thanks for your help. Toni From: Ian Musgrave & Peta
              Message 8 of 21 , Dec 9, 2009
                Hi Ian.  I am looking in my Planetary Megastar.
                I must to say that is not easy to verify the FOV. 
                 
                Many thanks for your help.
                 
                Toni

                Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 1:30 PM
                Subject: Re: [stereohunter] bright comet in h1a

                 

                G'Day All

                At 09:51 PM 9/12/2009, Toni wrote:

                >Gidday
                Toni,
                >
                > >Do you know the FOV of H1A? Is like to that of the
                C3?
                >
                ><Here is an approximation on the plane of view for STEREO
                A(red) &
                >B(blue), and C3(green).
                ><Not to scale , you can
                use this to get feel for the over lap of FOV.
                ><STEREOA & B are now
                essentially left and right side view to C3.
                >
                >Thanks Alan.
                >I
                saw the actual positions of stereo a and b in the site, so if I
                >understand well the field, the bright object in H1A is
                mercury.

                No, it's Jupiter. From the point of view of Stereo A, Mercury is
                below the Sun. The FOX of Stereo A is approximate 20 degrees x 20
                degrees, but because stereo is offset from earths point of view, the
                planets (and asteroids and comets) are shifted with regard to where
                we would see them.

                The central star just above Jupiter is iota Aquarii, and the slow
                mover to the left of Jupiter, near delta capricornii, is probably 37 Fides.

                If you have Celestia, you can add the orbits of Stereo A and Stero B
                to get a good idea of where they are looking. Celestia files below
                ============ ==STEREO. ssc====== ========= ========= =======
                "STEREO-A" "Sol"
                {
                Class "spacecraft"
                Mesh "rosetta.3ds"
                Radius 0.005

                EllipticalOrbit
                {
                Epoch 2454926.500000000 # = A.D. 2009-Apr-05 00:00:00.0000
                Period 0.93326171
                SemiMajorAxis 0.95539896
                Eccentricity 0.00956256
                Inclination 0.12547128
                AscendingNode 214.52049481
                ArgOfPericenter 127.85192
                MeanAnomaly 259.41452171
                }

                Albedo 0.5
                }

                "STEREO-B" "Sol"
                {
                Class "spacecraft"
                Mesh "rosetta.3ds"
                Radius 0.005

                EllipticalOrbit
                {
                Epoch 2454926.500000000 #= A.D. 2009-Apr-05 00:00:00.0000
                Period 1.078152
                SemiMajorAxis 1.051887
                Eccentricity 0.004440
                Inclination 0.293495
                AscendingNode 336.1030577498578
                ArgOfPericenter 151.6537286278057
                MeanAnomaly 18.37796930629710
                }

                Albedo 0.5
                }
                ============ ========= ========= ========= ========= ========= ========= ======

                Cheers! Ian

                ============ ========= ========= ========= ========= ======
                Ian Musgrave Peta O'Donohue, Jack Francis, Michael James and Andrew
                Thomas Musgrave
                reynella@mira. net http://home. mira.net/ ~reynella/
                Southern Sky Watch http://www.abc. net.au/science/ space/default. htm
                (scroll down right hand menu)
                AstroBlogg http://astroblogger .blogspot. com/
                Contributing Editor, Sky & Space
                http://www.skyandsp ace.com.au/ public/home. ehtml

              • William Thompson
                ... We now have a page at http://stereo-ssc.nascom.nasa.gov/beacon/planets/ that identifies what planets are visible in the most recent images. -- William
                Message 9 of 21 , Dec 9, 2009
                  Ian Musgrave & Peta O'Donohue wrote:

                  > >I saw the actual positions of stereo a and b in the site, so if I
                  > >understand well the field, the bright object in H1A is mercury.
                  >
                  > No, it's Jupiter. From the point of view of Stereo A, Mercury is
                  > below the Sun. The FOX of Stereo A is approximate 20 degrees x 20
                  > degrees, but because stereo is offset from earths point of view, the
                  > planets (and asteroids and comets) are shifted with regard to where
                  > we would see them.

                  We now have a page at

                  http://stereo-ssc.nascom.nasa.gov/beacon/planets/

                  that identifies what planets are visible in the most recent images.

                  --
                  William Thompson
                  NASA Goddard Space Flight Center
                  Code 671
                  Greenbelt, MD 20771
                  USA

                  301-286-2040
                  William.T.Thompson@...

                  (Note changed email address)
                • Ian Musgrave & Peta O'Donohue
                  G Day All ... That s great! Many thanks for the information. Cheers! Ian ====================================================== Ian Musgrave Peta O Donohue,
                  Message 10 of 21 , Dec 9, 2009
                    G'Day All

                    At 01:57 AM 10/12/2009, William wrote:
                    >Ian Musgrave & Peta O'Donohue wrote:
                    >
                    > > >I saw the actual positions of stereo a and b in the site, so if I
                    > > >understand well the field, the bright object in H1A is mercury.
                    > >
                    > > No, it's Jupiter. From the point of view of Stereo A, Mercury is
                    > > below the Sun. The FOX of Stereo A is approximate 20 degrees x 20
                    > > degrees, but because stereo is offset from earths point of view, the
                    > > planets (and asteroids and comets) are shifted with regard to where
                    > > we would see them.
                    >
                    >We now have a page at
                    >
                    >http://stereo-ssc.nascom.nasa.gov/beacon/planets/
                    >
                    >that identifies what planets are visible in the most recent images.

                    That's great! Many thanks for the information.

                    Cheers! Ian

                    ======================================================
                    Ian Musgrave Peta O'Donohue, Jack Francis, Michael James and Andrew
                    Thomas Musgrave
                    reynella@... http://home.mira.net/~reynella/
                    Southern Sky Watch http://www.abc.net.au/science/space/default.htm
                    (scroll down right hand menu)
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                    Contributing Editor, Sky & Space
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                  • Toni Scarmato
                    Very useful, thanks. Regards, Toni Scarmato ... From: William Thompson Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 4:27 PM To:
                    Message 11 of 21 , Dec 10, 2009
                      Very useful, thanks.

                      Regards,
                      Toni Scarmato

                      --------------------------------------------------
                      From: "William Thompson" <william.t.thompson@...>
                      Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 4:27 PM
                      To: <stereohunter@yahoogroups.com>
                      Subject: Re: [stereohunter] bright comet in h1a

                      > Ian Musgrave & Peta O'Donohue wrote:
                      >
                      >> >I saw the actual positions of stereo a and b in the site, so if I
                      >> >understand well the field, the bright object in H1A is mercury.
                      >>
                      >> No, it's Jupiter. From the point of view of Stereo A, Mercury is
                      >> below the Sun. The FOX of Stereo A is approximate 20 degrees x 20
                      >> degrees, but because stereo is offset from earths point of view, the
                      >> planets (and asteroids and comets) are shifted with regard to where
                      >> we would see them.
                      >
                      > We now have a page at
                      >
                      > http://stereo-ssc.nascom.nasa.gov/beacon/planets/
                      >
                      > that identifies what planets are visible in the most recent images.
                      >
                      > --
                      > William Thompson
                      > NASA Goddard Space Flight Center
                      > Code 671
                      > Greenbelt, MD 20771
                      > USA
                      >
                      > 301-286-2040
                      > William.T.Thompson@...
                      >
                      > (Note changed email address)
                      >
                      >
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                    • Toni Scarmato
                      Probably know kreutz comet. Positions 1024x1024 (0,0) upper left 20091206 H1A 15.29:01 895,755 16:09:01 900,750 16:49:01 902,748 17:29:01 905,743
                      Message 12 of 21 , Dec 10, 2009
                        Probably know kreutz comet.

                        Positions 1024x1024 (0,0) upper left 20091206 H1A

                        15.29:01 895,755
                        16:09:01 900,750
                        16:49:01 902,748
                        17:29:01 905,743

                        Well visible just to 23:29:01 and from 10:49:01

                        regards,
                        Toni Scarmato
                      • 建高 阮
                        Hi Toni,   This is the know SOHO comet report by Arkadiusz Kubczak at 2009-12-06 , 16:20:38.   and we can see the comet report by Masanori Uchina at Dec 08
                        Message 13 of 21 , Dec 10, 2009
                          Hi Toni,
                           
                          This is the know SOHO comet report by Arkadiusz Kubczak at 2009-12-06 , 16:20:38.
                           
                          and we can see the comet report by Masanori Uchina at Dec 08 2009 10:38:12 :
                           
                          picture size: 1024 * 1024
                          picture name  position
                          20091207_184901_s4h1A (907,755)
                          20091207_192901_s4h1A (911,751)
                          20091207_200901_s4h1A (916,748)
                          20091207_204901_s4h1A (918,744)
                          20091207_212901_s4h1A (923,741)
                          20091207_220901_s4h1A (927,737)
                          20091207_224901_s4h1A (932,732)
                          20091207_232901_s4h1A (936,729)
                          Regards~
                          Jiangao Ruan



                          --- 09年12月10日,周四, Toni Scarmato <toniscarmato@...> 写道:

                          发件人: Toni Scarmato <toniscarmato@...>
                          主题: [stereohunter] bright comet in h1a 20091206
                          收件人: stereohunter@yahoogroups..com
                          日期: 2009年12月10日,周四,下午6:31

                          Probably know kreutz comet.

                          Positions 1024x1024 (0,0) upper left 20091206 H1A

                          15.29:01    895,755
                          16:09:01    900,750
                          16:49:01    902,748
                          17:29:01    905,743

                          Well visible just to 23:29:01 and from 10:49:01

                          regards,
                          Toni Scarmato


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                        • Toni Scarmato
                          Very well Jiangao. Still I am not able to comparison the Lasco report with Stereo. Many thanks, Toni From: 建高 阮 Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 11:51
                          Message 14 of 21 , Dec 10, 2009
                            Very well Jiangao.  Still I am not able to comparison the Lasco report with Stereo.
                             
                            Many thanks,
                             
                            Toni

                            Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 11:51 AM
                            Subject: 回复: [stereohunter] bright comet in h1a 20091206

                             

                            Hi Toni,
                             
                            This is the know SOHO comet report by Arkadiusz Kubczak at 2009-12-06 , 16:20:38.
                             
                            and we can see the comet report by Masanori Uchina at Dec 08 2009 10:38:12 :
                             
                            picture size: 1024 * 1024
                            picture name  position
                            20091207_184901_ s4h1A (907,755)
                            20091207_192901_ s4h1A (911,751)
                            20091207_200901_ s4h1A (916,748)
                            20091207_204901_ s4h1A (918,744)
                            20091207_212901_ s4h1A (923,741)
                            20091207_220901_ s4h1A (927,737)
                            20091207_224901_ s4h1A (932,732)
                            20091207_232901_ s4h1A (936,729)
                            Regards~
                            Jiangao Ruan



                            --- 09年12月10日,周四, Toni Scarmato <toniscarmato@ hotmail.com> 写道:

                            发件人: Toni Scarmato <toniscarmato@ hotmail.com>
                            主题: [stereohunter] bright comet in h1a 20091206
                            收件人: stereohunter@ yahoogroups. .com
                            日期: 2009年12月10日,周四,下午6:31

                            Probably know kreutz comet.

                            Positions 1024x1024 (0,0) upper left 20091206 H1A

                            15.29:01    895,755
                            16:09:01    900,750
                            16:49:01    902,748
                            17:29:01    905,743

                            Well visible just to 23:29:01 and from 10:49:01

                            regards,
                            Toni Scarmato


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