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  • dalelute@gmail.com
    It seems to me that to remain rather exclusive to studying POF is imposing a voluntary limitation to existence, which would actually be a reduction of
    Message 1 of 8 , Sep 6, 2012
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      "It seems to me that to remain rather exclusive to studying POF is
      imposing a voluntary limitation to existence, which would actually be a reduction of freedom. But, again, the choice would be a free one to do so."

      Good point Juan.

      The work of Steiner is so vast! It's amazing to see how many paths people take. The only thing I would ever disagree with is restriction or subscribing to a single concept and not exploring others because of anticipated reaction.
      Allowing yourself and others to do what they do.
      This is true freedom. Freedom from judgement and fear while allowing all to be who they are.

      Here's some excerpts from The way of initiation: or, How to attain knowledge of the higher worlds. I printed this in April and keep it in my back pocket:

      No teacher wishes to establish an ascendancy over other persons. He would not tamper with individual independence.

      Keep watch over each of your actions and each of your words, in order that you may not hinder the free-will of any human being.

      Provide for yourself moments of inward calm, and in these moments learn to distinguish between the real and the unreal.
      Our aim in these moments of meditation must be to contemplate and judge our own experiences and actions as though it were not ourselves but some other person to whom they applied. Contemplate oneself and others with the inward calm of the critic. When this is attained, our own experiences present themselves in a new light.

      Gradually this Higher Life will make its influence felt on the ordinary life. The calm of the moments set apart will influence the ordinary existence as well. The whole self will grow calmer, will attain serenity in all his actions, and will cease to be perturbed by all manner of incidents.

      This calm should not interfere with our responsibilities:
      "I will summon up all my strength so as to do my work as well as I possibly can." And he suppresses the thought which encourages timidity; for he knows that this very timidity might spoil his undertaking, and that at any rate it can contribute nothing to the improvement of his labor.

      I am only a link in the whole of humanity, and consequently I, too, in part, bear the responsibility for everything that happens.

      One must know that thoughts and feelings produce an effect as much as the action of one's hand.

      political agitators know well what can be demanded of other people, but they say little of demands on themselves.
      bring forth the will for sincere and devoted work and not the desire to criticise and destroy.

      Those who have arrived at a somewhat advanced stage of knowledge are aware that they owe everything to a quiet attention and assimilation, and not to a stubborn personal judgment. One should always remember that one does not need to learn what one is already able to understand. Therefore, if one only desires to judge, one cannot learn any more.
    • juancompostella
      ... Exactly. And I more than inferred that POF stands on its own as a system of study designed to get to pure thinking and the perception that goes with it.
      Message 2 of 8 , Sep 6, 2012
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        --- In steiner@yahoogroups.com, "be23566" <fairoaks@...> wrote:
        >
        > I don't recall "etheric formative forces" in POF. I don't want to get unnecessarily side tracked by anthroposophy. My interest is POF for all. By inserting anthroposophy into POF the book will no longer be acceptable to the bulk of humanity. Of course this is an anthroposophy website so I should best be respectful and just not respond when others view POF through anthroposophy. I apologize.
        >
        > "this book occupies a position completely independent of my writings on actual spiritual scientific matters... What I have said in this book may be acceptable even to some who, for reasons of their own,
        > refuse to have anything to do with the results of my researches into the spiritual realm." Rudolf Steiner,
        > The Philosophy of Freedom, 1918 Preface to the Revised Edition
        >
        > Tom Last

        Exactly. And I more than inferred that POF stands on its own as a system of study designed to get to pure thinking and the perception that goes with it. Goethe was perceived by Steiner as having a close relation to "etheric formative forces", which indeed, is nowhere to be found in POF.

        Tom, my sole intent in giving these offerings from Steiner's own bio was simply to reflect his thoughts on his fundamental work some thirty years after it was written. I find that he still reveres it as his magnum opus with great regard.

        And nowhere does he ever indicate that it was superceded in its importance by anthroposophy. Anthroposophy was simply the stage that began in 1900. POF always held its high place as the benchmark of philosophy.

        Juan
      • juancompostella
        I wonder why Tom feels that anthroposophy somehow degrades from the purity of POF? It doesn t. It can only help to expand his own initiative. Juan
        Message 3 of 8 , Sep 6, 2012
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          I wonder why Tom feels that anthroposophy somehow degrades from the purity of POF? It doesn't.

          It can only help to expand his own initiative.

          Juan

          --- In steiner@yahoogroups.com, dalelute@... wrote:
          >
          > "It seems to me that to remain rather exclusive to studying POF is
          > imposing a voluntary limitation to existence, which would actually be a reduction of freedom. But, again, the choice would be a free one to do so."
          >
          > Good point Juan.
          >
          > The work of Steiner is so vast! It's amazing to see how many paths people take. The only thing I would ever disagree with is restriction or subscribing to a single concept and not exploring others because of anticipated reaction.
          > Allowing yourself and others to do what they do.
          > This is true freedom. Freedom from judgement and fear while allowing all to be who they are.
          >
          > Here's some excerpts from The way of initiation: or, How to attain knowledge of the higher worlds. I printed this in April and keep it in my back pocket:
          >
          > No teacher wishes to establish an ascendancy over other persons. He would not tamper with individual independence.
          >
          > Keep watch over each of your actions and each of your words, in order that you may not hinder the free-will of any human being.
          >
          > Provide for yourself moments of inward calm, and in these moments learn to distinguish between the real and the unreal.
          > Our aim in these moments of meditation must be to contemplate and judge our own experiences and actions as though it were not ourselves but some other person to whom they applied. Contemplate oneself and others with the inward calm of the critic. When this is attained, our own experiences present themselves in a new light.
          >
          > Gradually this Higher Life will make its influence felt on the ordinary life. The calm of the moments set apart will influence the ordinary existence as well. The whole self will grow calmer, will attain serenity in all his actions, and will cease to be perturbed by all manner of incidents.
          >
          > This calm should not interfere with our responsibilities:
          > "I will summon up all my strength so as to do my work as well as I possibly can." And he suppresses the thought which encourages timidity; for he knows that this very timidity might spoil his undertaking, and that at any rate it can contribute nothing to the improvement of his labor.
          >
          > I am only a link in the whole of humanity, and consequently I, too, in part, bear the responsibility for everything that happens.
          >
          > One must know that thoughts and feelings produce an effect as much as the action of one's hand.
          >
          > political agitators know well what can be demanded of other people, but they say little of demands on themselves.
          > bring forth the will for sincere and devoted work and not the desire to criticise and destroy.
          >
          > Those who have arrived at a somewhat advanced stage of knowledge are aware that they owe everything to a quiet attention and assimilation, and not to a stubborn personal judgment. One should always remember that one does not need to learn what one is already able to understand. Therefore, if one only desires to judge, one cannot learn any more.
          >
        • Durward Starman
          Thank you for posting this nice summary of Knowledge of the Higher Worlds first chapter. We re taking that up in our study group and I m going to print it our
          Message 4 of 8 , Sep 13, 2012
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            Thank you for posting this nice summary of Knowledge of the Higher Worlds' first chapter. We're taking that up in our study group and I'm going to print it our for everyone.

            -Starman


            The work of Steiner is so vast! It's amazing to see how many paths people take. The only thing I would ever disagree with is restriction or subscribing to a single concept and not exploring others because of anticipated reaction.
            Allowing yourself and others to do what they do.
            This is true freedom. Freedom from judgement and fear while allowing all to be who they are.

            Here's some excerpts from The way of initiation: or, How to attain knowledge of the higher worlds. I printed this in April and keep it in my back pocket:

            No teacher wishes to establish an ascendancy over other persons. He would not tamper with individual independence.

            Keep watch over each of your actions and each of your words, in order that you may not hinder the free-will of any human being.

            Provide for yourself moments of inward calm, and in these moments learn to distinguish between the real and the unreal.
            Our aim in these moments of meditation must be to contemplate and judge our own experiences and actions as though it were not ourselves but some other person to whom they applied. Contemplate oneself and others with the inward calm of the critic. When this is attained, our own experiences present themselves in a new light.

            Gradually this Higher Life will make its influence felt on the ordinary life. The calm of the moments set apart will influence the ordinary existence as well. The whole self will grow calmer, will attain serenity in all his actions, and will cease to be perturbed by all manner of incidents.

            This calm should not interfere with our responsibilities:
            "I will summon up all my strength so as to do my work as well as I possibly can." And he suppresses the thought which encourages timidity; for he knows that this very timidity might spoil his undertaking, and that at any rate it can contribute nothing to the improvement of his labor.

            I am only a link in the whole of humanity, and consequently I, too, in part, bear the responsibility for everything that happens.

            One must know that thoughts and feelings produce an effect as much as the action of one's hand.

            political agitators know well what can be demanded of other people, but they say little of demands on themselves.
            bring forth the will for sincere and devoted work and not the desire to criticise and destroy.

            Those who have arrived at a somewhat advanced stage of knowledge are aware that they owe everything to a quiet attention and assimilation, and not to a stubborn personal judgment. One should always remember that one does not need to learn what one is already able to understand. Therefore, if one only desires to judge, one cannot learn any more.


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