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  • Durward Starman
    BY REQUEST, HERE IS A RE-POSTING OF DR. STEINER S PREDICTION OF THE DEMONIC FORCES ATTACKING EVERYTHING SPIRITUAL AROUND 1998... OUR CURRENT EVENTS. -STARMAN
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      BY REQUEST, HERE IS A RE-POSTING OF DR. STEINER'S PREDICTION OF THE DEMONIC FORCES ATTACKING EVERYTHING SPIRITUAL AROUND 1998... OUR CURRENT EVENTS.

      -STARMAN

      Rudolf Steiner  September 1924 / Switzerland 
      From one basic way of considering this matter, there are two 
      realms: the realm of NATURE  which is the realm of the Father 
      (the source of the created world both spiritually and physically)  
      and the realm of the SPIRIT.
      The Mohammedan teachings do not know the structure of the 
      world I have just been speaking about. They know--- and can 
      ONLY know---the Father. 
      They know only the rigid doctrine: "There is one God, Allah, and 
      none beside him, and Mohammed is his Prophet."
      From this angle, the teachings of Mohammed are the strongest 
      polarity to Christianity. 
      Indeed, resident in a hidden manner within the Islamic 
      worldview is the will to do away with all freedom forever, the will 
      to bring about a purely deterministic spiritual and social order 
      that would dominate every aspect of human life, for nothing else 
      is possible if you imagine the world solely in the sense of a 
      Father God alone.
      A foreboding of this gave the apocalypse-writer (John) the 
      feeling: The human being cannot be found, or find himself, in 
      this. The human being cannot become filled through and 
      through with Christ if he remains connected with the doctrine of 
      the Father (alone). 
      Restricted to this, the human being cannot take hold of his own 
      humanness. He fails to become fully human if he is only able to 
      conceive the Father God. 
      In the end, the human being only becomes human by making 
      Christ alive within himself and thereby gaining protection from 
      the material conviction that spiritual realities are illusionary and 
      vaporous epi-phenomena of purely material causes. 
      Entertainment of the doctrine of the Father (alone) inescapably 
      arrives at a conceptual materialism such as represented, for 
      example, by Darwinism, the view that the human being arises 
      from purely material causes. 
      And if we regard Christianity primarily as that which accords with 
      the Sun forces spiritually speaking, and such as is reflected / 
      mirrored / mediated / manifested by the nine ranks of angelic 
      Hierarchies, then we may identify that which OPPOSES these 
      spiritual/sun forces as "anti-sun" forces or as  "sun demon." 
      This "sun demon" works COUNTER to the Christian principle in 
      such a way that, if a human being were to succumb to the lures 
      of the sun demon and his inspiration, then that same human 
      being would, by his own free choice, surrender all inward 
      connection to the divinity of Christ for an inward connection with 
      the sub-human spiritual realms.
      The apocalyptist saw this.  He felt and saw the mighty (future) 
      counter-principle of Arabism bursting in on Christianity.
      It was clear to him that, from this Arabism, everything arises that 
      brings the human being close to the purely animal nature, first of 
      all in his views, but gradually also in his combined impulses of 
      will and action.
      And what the apocalyptist saw BEHIND the future scenes of the 
      looming Mohammdan historical impulse was the sun demon at 
      work, working against the sun forces, against the spiritual 
      sun-intelligence.
      If asked, the apocalyptist would have called the representatives 
      of Arabism in Europe "human beings who have willingly 
      dedicated themselves to the sun demon in their souls' nature."
      Dear friends, the number 666 represented both the NAME and 
      the TIME when Arabism would flow into Christianity in order to 
      impress the seal of materialism upon western culture.
      The apocalyptist portrays everything that works as a 
      counter-principle to Christianity, such as Arabism and its 
      deterministic conceptual constructs, as direct outflow from the 
      counter-spirituality represented by the sun-demon Surat.
      And, in the final analysis, everything flowing from Arabism was 
      directed ultimately against a spiritual Christian understanding of 
      transubstantiation. External facts certainly do not look as if this 
      were the case but, by allotting validity only to the Father principle, 
      to the natural world-order, the sun demon forces indeed 
      intended to sweep away from human view an immediate feeling 
      for that which is active in the very deepest way in a sacrament 
      such as transubstantiation.
      (The great revolutions that came about in Europe as a result of 
      the Crusades belong under the sign of the SECOND occurrence 
      of the number 666.)
      During the first 666, dear friends, Surat was still hidden but 
      actively at work within the external process of outward events; he 
      was not seen in clear outward manifestation. 
      Now before us [in 1924] lies the time of the third number 666: 
      1998 A.D.
      At the end of this (the twentieth) century, the time will come when 
      Surat will ONCE AGAIN raise his head most strongly out of the 
      waves of history. 

      Only two-thirds of the 20th century will have still to run before 
      Surat/Sorat once again raises his head most mightily.
      Before this (twentieth) century is out, he will show himself 
      through his appearance in many human beings as the one by 
      whom many are "possessed." 

      Human beings will appear of whom it will be impossible to 
      believe that they are really human beings.
      These Surat-inspired human beings will be recognizable by their 
      external appearance; in a terrible way they will not only scoff at 
      everything, but will also oppose, and want to destroy, and to 
      push into the abyss anything that is spiritual.

      Outwardly, they will have intense and strong dispositions, with 
      savage countenances, and with furious destructiveness in their 
      emotions.

      The intention to sweep-away anything spiritual will be 
      deep-seated in large numbers of earthly souls, just as the 
      apocalyptist has foreseen in the beast-like countenance, and the 
      beast-like strength, that will underlie the deeds of the adversary 
      over against the spiritual.
      Even today, hidden rage against spiritual things is already 
      immense, yet it is still in its very early infancy in contrast to what 
      is to come.
      - - - - - - - - - -



      >Source: The Book of Revelation and the Work of the Priest (GA 346)
      >Rudolf Steiner 18 Lectures plus conversations 
      >Dornach, September 1924 




      www.DrStarman.com



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    • carol
      RS: ... Surat/Sorat once again raises his head most mightily. Before this (twentieth) century is out, he will show himself through his appearance in many
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        RS: "... Surat/Sorat once again raises his head most mightily. Before this (twentieth) century is out, he will show himself  through his appearance in many human beings as the one by  whom many are "possessed."  Human beings will appear of whom it will be impossible to  believe that they are really human beings. These Surat-inspired human beings will be recognizable by their  external appearance; in a terrible way they will not only scoff at  everything, but will also oppose, and want to destroy, and to  push into the abyss anything that is spiritual. Outwardly, they will have intense and strong dispositions, with  savage countenances, and with furious destructiveness in their  emotions..."


        I just thought to suggest to readers of the above words of Steiner's that the subject matter being described would necessarily need be attentively monitered by individuals capable of supersensible perception for the reason that Sorat's ongoing intentions would be manifesting themselves with a penetrating, elusive spirit force - thus capable of seeping into the semi/sub conscious realms of the soul -  and thus impregrating the entire 'times' we are living in – and therefore, not simply choosing, as vice,  the people of one particular folk soul.


        Sorry for the let-down but in << reality >>, this subject matter is extremely deep and it implies that every single one of us is at risk of slipping straight away into the 'riddle' that is Sorat's plan if each and everyone of us, individually, does not make haste and remain vigilant  by aligning our thoughts and souls with the spirit force represented by the Etheric Christ and his hosts. ( think about how each and everyone's Ahrimanic double might be comprehensive to Sorat's current rise and reign – to name only one sure area of human vulnerability – and think about the St John apocalyptic prophecy of locust men and many people 'dying' ... )

        And another thought:  Anthroposophy is not only 'talk' ... 


        Carol.




        --- In steiner@yahoogroups.com, Durward Starman <DrStarman@...> wrote:
        >
        >
        > BY REQUEST, HERE IS A RE-POSTING OF DR. STEINER'S PREDICTION OF THE DEMONIC FORCES ATTACKING EVERYTHING SPIRITUAL AROUND 1998... OUR CURRENT EVENTS.
        > -STARMAN
        > Rudolf Steiner September 1924 / Switzerland
        > From one basic way of considering this matter, there are two
        > realms: the realm of NATURE which is the realm of the Father
        > (the source of the created world both spiritually and physically)
        > and the realm of the SPIRIT.
        > The Mohammedan teachings do not know the structure of the
        > world I have just been speaking about. They know--- and can
        > ONLY know---the Father.
        > They know only the rigid doctrine: "There is one God, Allah, and
        > none beside him, and Mohammed is his Prophet."
        > From this angle, the teachings of Mohammed are the strongest
        > polarity to Christianity.
        > Indeed, resident in a hidden manner within the Islamic
        > worldview is the will to do away with all freedom forever, the will
        > to bring about a purely deterministic spiritual and social order
        > that would dominate every aspect of human life, for nothing else
        > is possible if you imagine the world solely in the sense of a
        > Father God alone.
        > A foreboding of this gave the apocalypse-writer (John) the
        > feeling: The human being cannot be found, or find himself, in
        > this. The human being cannot become filled through and
        > through with Christ if he remains connected with the doctrine of
        > the Father (alone).
        > Restricted to this, the human being cannot take hold of his own
        > humanness. He fails to become fully human if he is only able to
        > conceive the Father God.
        > In the end, the human being only becomes human by making
        > Christ alive within himself and thereby gaining protection from
        > the material conviction that spiritual realities are illusionary and
        > vaporous epi-phenomena of purely material causes.
        > Entertainment of the doctrine of the Father (alone) inescapably
        > arrives at a conceptual materialism such as represented, for
        > example, by Darwinism, the view that the human being arises
        > from purely material causes.
        > And if we regard Christianity primarily as that which accords with
        > the Sun forces spiritually speaking, and such as is reflected /
        > mirrored / mediated / manifested by the nine ranks of angelic
        > Hierarchies, then we may identify that which OPPOSES these
        > spiritual/sun forces as "anti-sun" forces or as "sun demon."
        > This "sun demon" works COUNTER to the Christian principle in
        > such a way that, if a human being were to succumb to the lures
        > of the sun demon and his inspiration, then that same human
        > being would, by his own free choice, surrender all inward
        > connection to the divinity of Christ for an inward connection with
        > the sub-human spiritual realms.
        > The apocalyptist saw this. He felt and saw the mighty (future)
        > counter-principle of Arabism bursting in on Christianity.
        > It was clear to him that, from this Arabism, everything arises that
        > brings the human being close to the purely animal nature, first of
        > all in his views, but gradually also in his combined impulses of
        > will and action.
        > And what the apocalyptist saw BEHIND the future scenes of the
        > looming Mohammdan historical impulse was the sun demon at
        > work, working against the sun forces, against the spiritual
        > sun-intelligence.
        > If asked, the apocalyptist would have called the representatives
        > of Arabism in Europe "human beings who have willingly
        > dedicated themselves to the sun demon in their souls' nature."
        > Dear friends, the number 666 represented both the NAME and
        > the TIME when Arabism would flow into Christianity in order to
        > impress the seal of materialism upon western culture.
        > The apocalyptist portrays everything that works as a
        > counter-principle to Christianity, such as Arabism and its
        > deterministic conceptual constructs, as direct outflow from the
        > counter-spirituality represented by the sun-demon Surat.
        > And, in the final analysis, everything flowing from Arabism was
        > directed ultimately against a spiritual Christian understanding of
        > transubstantiation. External facts certainly do not look as if this
        > were the case but, by allotting validity only to the Father principle, to the natural world-order, the sun demon forces indeed
        > intended to sweep away from human view an immediate feeling
        > for that which is active in the very deepest way in a sacrament
        > such as transubstantiation.
        > (The great revolutions that came about in Europe as a result of
        > the Crusades belong under the sign of the SECOND occurrence
        > of the number 666.)
        > During the first 666, dear friends, Surat was still hidden but
        > actively at work within the external process of outward events; he
        > was not seen in clear outward manifestation.
        > Now before us [in 1924] lies the time of the third number 666:
        > 1998 A.D.
        > At the end of this (the twentieth) century, the time will come when
        > Surat will ONCE AGAIN raise his head most strongly out of the
        > waves of history.
        > Only two-thirds of the 20th century will have still to run before
        > Surat/Sorat once again raises his head most mightily.
        > Before this (twentieth) century is out, he will show himself
        > through his appearance in many human beings as the one by
        > whom many are "possessed."
        > Human beings will appear of whom it will be impossible to
        > believe that they are really human beings.
        > These Surat-inspired human beings will be recognizable by their
        > external appearance; in a terrible way they will not only scoff at
        > everything, but will also oppose, and want to destroy, and to
        > push into the abyss anything that is spiritual.
        > Outwardly, they will have intense and strong dispositions, with
        > savage countenances, and with furious destructiveness in their
        > emotions.
        > The intention to sweep-away anything spiritual will be
        > deep-seated in large numbers of earthly souls, just as the
        > apocalyptist has foreseen in the beast-like countenance, and the
        > beast-like strength, that will underlie the deeds of the adversary
        > over against the spiritual.
        > Even today, hidden rage against spiritual things is already
        > immense, yet it is still in its very early infancy in contrast to what
        > is to come.
        > - - - - - - - - - -
        >
        >
        > >Source: The Book of Revelation and the Work of the Priest (GA 346)
        > >Rudolf Steiner 18 Lectures plus conversations
        > >Dornach, September 1924
        >
        >
        >
        > www.DrStarman.com
        >
        >
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      • Durward Starman
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        RS: "... Surat/Sorat once again raises his head most mightily. Before this (twentieth) century is out, he will show himself  through his appearance in many human beings as the one by  whom many are "possessed."  Human beings will appear of whom it will be impossible to  believe that they are really human beings. These Surat-inspired human beings will be recognizable by their  external appearance; in a terrible way they will not only scoff at  everything, but will also oppose, and want to destroy, and to  push into the abyss anything that is spiritual. Outwardly, they will have intense and strong dispositions, with  savage countenances, and with furious destructiveness in their  emotions..."


        >
        >
        > BY REQUEST, HERE IS A RE-POSTING OF DR. STEINER'S PREDICTION OF THE DEMONIC FORCES ATTACKING EVERYTHING SPIRITUAL AROUND 1998... OUR CURRENT EVENTS.
        > -STARMAN
        > Rudolf Steiner September 1924 / Switzerland
        > From one basic way of considering this matter, there are two
        > realms: the realm of NATURE which is the realm of the Father
        > (the source of the created world both spiritually and physically)
        > and the realm of the SPIRIT.
        > The Mohammedan teachings do not know the structure of the
        > world I have just been speaking about. They know--- and can
        > ONLY know---the Father.
        > They know only the rigid doctrine: "There is one God, Allah, and
        > none beside him, and Mohammed is his Prophet."
        > From this angle, the teachings of Mohammed are the strongest
        > polarity to Christianity.
        > Indeed, resident in a hidden manner within the Islamic
        > worldview is the will to do away with all freedom forever, the will
        > to bring about a purely deterministic spiritual and social order
        > that would dominate every aspect of human life, for nothing else
        > is possible if you imagine the world solely in the sense of a
        > Father God alone.
        > A foreboding of this gave the apocalypse-writer (John) the
        > feeling: The human being cannot be found, or find himself, in
        > this. The human being cannot become filled through and
        > through with Christ if he remains connected with the doctrine of
        > the Father (alone).
        > Restricted to this, the human being cannot take hold of his own
        > humanness. He fails to become fully human if he is only able to
        > conceive the Father God.
        > In the end, the human being only becomes human by making
        > Christ alive within himself and thereby gaining protection from
        > the material conviction that spiritual realities are illusionary and
        > vaporous epi-phenomena of purely material causes.
        > Entertainment of the doctrine of the Father (alone) inescapably
        > arrives at a conceptual materialism such as represented, for
        > example, by Darwinism, the view that the human being arises
        > from purely material causes.
        > And if we regard Christianity primarily as that which accords with
        > the Sun forces spiritually speaking, and such as is reflected /
        > mirrored / mediated / manifested by the nine ranks of angelic
        > Hierarchies, then we may identify that which OPPOSES these
        > spiritual/sun forces as "anti-sun" forces or as "sun demon."
        > This "sun demon" works COUNTER to the Christian principle in
        > such a way that, if a human being were to succumb to the lures
        > of the sun demon and his inspiration, then that same human
        > being would, by his own free choice, surrender all inward
        > connection to the divinity of Christ for an inward connection with
        > the sub-human spiritual realms.
        > The apocalyptist saw this. He felt and saw the mighty (future)
        > counter-principle of Arabism bursting in on Christianity.
        > It was clear to him that, from this Arabism, everything arises that
        > brings the human being close to the purely animal nature, first of
        > all in his views, but gradually also in his combined impulses of
        > will and action.
        > And what the apocalyptist saw BEHIND the future scenes of the
        > looming Mohammdan historical impulse was the sun demon at
        > work, working against the sun forces, against the spiritual
        > sun-intelligence.
        > If asked, the apocalyptist would have called the representatives
        > of Arabism in Europe "human beings who have willingly
        > dedicated themselves to the sun demon in their souls' nature."
        > Dear friends, the number 666 represented both the NAME and
        > the TIME when Arabism would flow into Christianity in order to
        > impress the seal of materialism upon western culture.
        > The apocalyptist portrays everything that works as a
        > counter-principle to Christianity, such as Arabism and its
        > deterministic conceptual constructs, as direct outflow from the
        > counter-spiritualit y represented by the sun-demon Surat.
        > And, in the final analysis, everything flowing from Arabism was
        > directed ultimately against a spiritual Christian understanding of
        > transubstantiation. External facts certainly do not look as if this
        > were the case but, by allotting validity only to the Father principle, to the natural world-order, the sun demon forces indeed
        > intended to sweep away from human view an immediate feeling
        > for that which is active in the very deepest way in a sacrament
        > such as transubstantiation.
        > (The great revolutions that came about in Europe as a result of
        > the Crusades belong under the sign of the SECOND occurrence
        > of the number 666.)
        > During the first 666, dear friends, Surat was still hidden but
        > actively at work within the external process of outward events; he
        > was not seen in clear outward manifestation.
        > Now before us [in 1924] lies the time of the third number 666:
        > 1998 A.D.
        > At the end of this (the twentieth) century, the time will come when
        > Surat will ONCE AGAIN raise his head most strongly out of the
        > waves of history.
        > Only two-thirds of the 20th century will have still to run before
        > Surat/Sorat once again raises his head most mightily.
        > Before this (twentieth) century is out, he will show himself
        > through his appearance in many human beings as the one by
        > whom many are "possessed."
        > Human beings will appear of whom it will be impossible to
        > believe that they are really human beings.
        > These Surat-inspired human beings will be recognizable by their
        > external appearance; in a terrible way they will not only scoff at
        > everything, but will also oppose, and want to destroy, and to
        > push into the abyss anything that is spiritual.
        > Outwardly, they will have intense and strong dispositions, with
        > savage countenances, and with furious destructiveness in their
        > emotions.
        > The intention to sweep-away anything spiritual will be
        > deep-seated in large numbers of earthly souls, just as the
        > apocalyptist has foreseen in the beast-like countenance, and the
        > beast-like strength, that will underlie the deeds of the adversary
        > over against the spiritual.
        > Even today, hidden rage against spiritual things is already
        > immense, yet it is still in its very early infancy in contrast to what
        > is to come.
        > - - - - - - - - - -
        >
        >
        > >Source: The Book of Revelation and the Work of the Priest (GA 346)
        > >Rudolf Steiner 18 Lectures plus conversations
        > >Dornach, September 1924
        >



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