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Re: Islamified Christianity

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  • happypick2000
    Thank you, Mathew, for the Seattle Times newspaper link, which I later was able to access. This is the same article The San Francisco Chronicle also
    Message 1 of 4 , Jun 21, 2007
      Thank you, Mathew, for the Seattle Times newspaper link, which I later
      was able to access. This is the same article The San Francisco
      Chronicle also highlighted as well as it having been spread through
      many online sources as well, and as you so rightly say, it is
      significant, but unfortunately not uncommon during these particular
      times, and you are indeed so very correct that we must guard against
      such streams of thought. It reminds me of Steiner's words from
      somewhere to the effect that the greatest miracle of all is that
      Christianity survived, and he also had much to say about Mohammad and
      Mohammadism [Islam]! Unfortunately, Islam has seemingly spread by
      leaps and bounds until today it is perhaps the most immediately
      menacing influence on the physical plane, and the more we know about
      this cult, the better we'll be able to guard ourselves and others
      against its pervasive inroads. A few web sites may prove of help, and
      perhaps the free online [and downloadable] Qur'an might be a good
      start at http://prophetofdoom.net/pdg.aspx?g=401&i=41002
      A few other educational sites I've found helpful might be
      as well as such other Islamic experts as Steven Emerson's
      Robert Spencer's and Hugh Fitzgerald's http://jihadwatch.org/,
      multi-experts' http://counterterrorismblog.org/ and
      http://foehammer.net/, among many, many others, but at least these are
      a good beginning.

      I feel a great sadness for Ms. Redding and can only hope she is able
      to realize the Truth of The Christ. Thanks again for including this
      important link for all of us to recognize current influences.



      --- In steiner@yahoogroups.com, "Mathew Morrell" <tma4cbt@...> wrote:
      > I tried the link and it worked fine for me. Since it is such a
      > significant article, I'll post the link again in hope that people will
      > read the article in order to see for themselves the stream of thought
      > that we as Christians must guard against. If you cut and paste the link
      > below, make sure you cut the entire link including the entire html at
      > the end of the Web address. If the html isn't included, the link won't
      > work.
      > ml
      > tml>
      > t>
      > Here is a priceless quote from the article:
      > In Redding's car, she has hung up a cross she made of clear crystal
      > beads. Next to it, she has dangled a heart-shaped leather object etched
      > with the Arabic symbol for Allah.
      > "For me, that symbolizes who I am," Redding said. "I look through Jesus
      > and I see Allah."
      > --- In steiner@yahoogroups.com, "happypick2000" <happypick@> wrote:
      > >
      > > --- In steiner@yahoogroups.com, "Mathew Morrell" tma4cbt@ wrote:
      > > >
      > > > Last year I wrote how some Christian churches are becoming
      > disenchanted
      > > > with Jesus-as-Savior theology, and that this would ultimately lead
      > to a
      > > > brand of Christianity that is very, very close to Islam. In Islam,
      > > > Jesus's divinity is denied. A divine vision of Christ is denied in
      > > > favor of an earthly, materialistic vision in which the Ascension
      > never
      > > > happened, and therefore man's redemption through His Sacrifice. The
      > > > Ascension, Muslims and Gnostics say, was a hoax. Instead, Islamified
      > > > Christianity embraces the Jesus-as-Prophet theology in which Christ
      > is
      > > > a kind of holy man or a prophet.
      > > >
      > > > Here is an article that substantiates my claim. As the article says,
      > > > the degenerate Episcopal Church now claims that the divinity of
      > Christ
      > > > is no longer central to Christianity.
      > > >
      > > >
      > http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2003751274_redding17m.ht
      > > > ml
      > > >
      > > Dear Mathew and Friends,
      > >
      > > I was unable to access the URL for The Seattle Times, but this type of
      > > thought process is very ancient. The other night while reading
      > > Steiner's "Building Stones for an Understanding of the Mystery of
      > > Golgotha," 8 lectures, Berlin, March 27 - April 24, 1917, I once again
      > > encountered similar misinterpretations of Truth. In the second lecture
      > > [April 3, 1917] a few of Steiner's words were as follows: "Many things
      > > were cultivated in the Mysteries, but it is only the central idea with
      > > which they are concerned that specially interests us today. We will
      > > dwell for a moment on this central idea as practised by them up to the
      > > time of the Mystery of Golgotha, and indeed up to the time of the
      > > Emperor Julian, for much appertaining to the cult of the mysteries
      > > reappeared in later times in what one might call an anti-Christian
      > sense.
      > > "It has been pointed out that what people call the 'Easter legend,'
      > > that which contains the central legend of the passion, death and
      > > resurrection of Christ, formed a vital part of the mysteries also. The
      > > conclusion drawn from this was, that the Christian Easter mystery was
      > > in fact a kind of continuation of practices to be found in ancient
      > > heathen mysteries, or a transference of these to the person of Jesus
      > > of Nazareth; and so striking do things appear to many persons that
      > > they do not doubt the truth contained in this idea. They say: - 'What
      > > Christians say of the divine Christ, that He suffered, was put to
      > > death, and rose again, that with His resurrection is associated the
      > > hope and longing for the salvation of man - all the ideas that
      > > Christians have formed, is also to be found in the various cults of
      > > the mysteries. Heathen customs have been drawn from all directions and
      > > united into the Easter legend which has then been transferred to the
      > > person of Jesus of Nazareth'.
      > > "Recently people have gone even further. In officially Christian
      > > circles they have even regarded the historical existence of Jesus of
      > > Nazareth as unessential, declaring that all kinds of things have been
      > > collected from the legends and cults of the Mysteries, that these have
      > > been centralised, and that from them the legend of the Christ has been
      > > constructed. It is true that infinite possibilities for error and
      > > deception have sprung from the study of the heathen mystery-cults and
      > > from the endeavour to compare these with the Christian Easter mystery.
      > > "Let us compare in this connection the account of a Phrygian
      > > celebration of the Spring festival. This account, which is considered
      > > to be trustworthy, may be held to be typical, for the similarity in
      > > these rituals was widespread. Firmicus tells, in a letter to his son,
      > > Constantine, how a Phrygian Springtime celebration was conducted. He
      > > writes: "The image of the god Attis was bound to the stem of a tree,
      > > and bound thus was carried round in a midnight procession, while the
      > > sufferings of the god were honoured. Near to the tree a lamb was
      > > placed. When day appeared the resurrection of the god was proclaimed.
      > > The previous day, while the god was bound to the tree, and apparently
      > > given over to death, the most dreadful lamentations broke forth as
      > > part of the ritual, these were now suddenly changed into unrestrained
      > > expressions of joy in which the resurrection of the god was
      > celebrated."
      > > ...
      > > "Who can deny that in this ritual, which was celebrated hundreds and
      > > hundreds of years before the Mystery of Golgotha, there is great
      > > similarity to the celebration of the Easter mystery carried out all
      > > through Christiandem." ...
      > >
      > > Islam, from all I've been able to understand, is a cult, and
      > > furthermore, a cult of death. Its symbol, a new moon, is a mere sliver
      > > of the Christian moon: The reflection of the Sun.
      > >
      > > Sheila
      > >
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