RE: [steiner] Thinking
- Bravo, Mathew. It seems to me Steiner very heavily stresses thinking in his "The Philosophy of Spiritual Activity" as well as in many of his works!
--- On Fri 03/16, Mathew Morrell < tma4cbt@... > wrote:
From: Mathew Morrell [mailto: tma4cbt@...]
Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 04:27:38 -0000
Subject: [steiner] Thinking
Not right now, but perhaps 100 or 200 years in the future, the
explosion of technology in artificial intelligence will force the
spiritual community to confront the issue of thinking. What is it?
Does it have any value? Will we be better off sacrificing our human
thinking to computer technology capable of performing certain mental
tasks with greater power and efficiency?
So much of the spiritual training at the Ranch was geared toward the
elimination of thinking, i.e. prolonged meditations that would last
for days ala Billy Bayber, resulting in the loss of selfhood,
psychological disassociation, lessened will power, and depression.
The mind, consequently, became blunted like a dull pencil in need of
Not only at the Ranch, but in the New Age community at large,
thinking is demonized. Thinking is seen as something that
hinders "oneness" with the cosmos, and should be eliminated.
Rudolph Steiner, on the other hand, valued thinking and repeatedly
stated it wasn't a barrier, but rather is the very essence of
spirituality: the formless movement of consciousness. Our task
isn't the annihilation of consciousness; it is to make our thinking
stronger, clearer, more acute and more penetrating. In that way
we're capable of seeing beyond the illusionary forms of reality that
trick us into believing that the earth is hell, that life stinks, and
that only the loss of selfhood leads to happiness and enjoyment.
We can assume that the direction that the New Age community is moving
in respect to thinking is in the opposite direction, away from a
spiritualized vision of thinking and toward the extinction of
thought. Computer technology will eventually make this goal of
theirs very much possible
No banners. No pop-ups. No kidding.
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- Agreed. If I may post again my first post here;
Rudolf Steiner : Lecture Stuttgart, 14 November 1920:
Rudolf Steiner called this Technizismen Technicisms `Products of
Technology' further defined as demonic elemental powers in
He foresaw human work stepping back and directing the actual work
done by machines. As happening; in the early 1900, 79 million `horse
power years' of energy were produced in Germany (the country has
nothing to do with the subject, Steiner although born in Austria
lived in Germany and gave most of his lectures there btw Hitler
actually tried to bump Steiner off) These energies were controlled
by humans, but in fact derived from machines.
The energies expended in work are measured in units based on the work
a horse does in a year. Germany was producing 79 million horse power
years of machine energy per year. What does this really mean? It
shows in comparison with the population figure for Germany that on
average every single individual in Germany had a horse by his side.
This means the inhabitants of Germany did so much work in the field
of technology having a horse work for him all year long. The
population then was @79 million and the energy used was 79 million
horse power years. The work done by machines, all kinds of machines,
therefore had the same effect as if every individual had a horse to
work for him.
When war broke out the horse power energy more than doubled and these
energies were becoming quite independent of human beings. A point
had been reached where human brains had created something outside
themselves causing the forces of destiny to be surrendered to the
powers that were active in the objects they themselves had produced.
What is alive in those forces that work for them day by day? Look at
these influences very carefully ..
Before technology people looked at the phenomena in the world in such
a way they perceived a certain number of elemental beings this is
called `superstition' nowdays. However, we know elemental `spirits'
are indeed active in the phenomena of nature. Today people only see
dry-as-dust prosaic natural phenomena.
The modern intellectual approach that we call a scientific attitude
came into being and within a relative short time humans became to
depend upon machine `energy' just as formerly it had depended on
natural phenomena. These machine forces and energies also exist and
take effect independent of human beings, just as the forces of nature
are independent of human beings. Rudolf Steiner called these demon
elemental powers; Ahriman powers.
He said today's `enlightened' minds will consider it superstitious to
look for spiritual powers in technology and he said they have not the
least idea that demonic spirits are active in the whole world of
technology created by the human race. They work at an unconscious
level, taking hold of the unconscious mind.
Steiner said that human beings will not be inclined to accept this.
In the first place those things are at an unconscious level and in
the second place people feel it would superstitious to say demonic
spirits are active in the machines they have produced. They are
active nevertheless and it is said it is happening at a fast pace.
And acts on the human will.
The intellectualism of modern science does not enable people to gain
immediate conscious awareness of the will. The danger is the
Ahrimanic world will take hold of the human will and human beings
will completely lose their bearings.
Steiner follows this lecture with the Christ event. The Christ event
that will happen in the first half of the 20th century to give human
beings their bearings. The nature of the Christ event will be such
that more people will be having objective experiences and will know
that the Etheric Christ is walking on Earth. If people come to know
this Christ power, if they let it enter into them they will find the
right way of dealing with the forces of influence that come from the
The greatest problem of our time is that people will slide into the
Ahrimanic sphere without the support of the Christ force. When we
speak of the Christ force we are speaking of something very concrete
and positive that is entering into human evolution in the 20th
-- Rudolf Steiner could see how technology was going to rapidly
increase trying to make our spritual intellect dormant.