- I think James is quite profound and has a wisdom not many people
would understand. The burden of knowledge is a yoke. I think James
is carrying this yoke and needs support... he has acquired a rare
insight. I wouldn't mind James being a member here; the least we
could do is offer friendship.
Matthew you wrote:
The problem has to do with Gurdjieff's fundamentally negative
approach. He begun his philosophy from the standpoint that man is
trapped in a sort of hypnotic sleep and that only super effort and
intentional suffering can awaken the slumbering will ..
I am not familiar with Gurdjieff's work (although after James I have
a inkling) but what you wrote above I think rings true with Astrology.
I hope Starman agrees with me here; the philosophy of Astrology
(although astrology is not a philosophy it is the Divine plan of
Creation) the principle of Astrology is;
We each in turn go through the wheel of each Zodiac Sign. Once we
have accomplished and attained the highest possible note or octave in
each sign we advance to the next sign. Until we have achieved the
highest combination of octaves in all the signs and break through the
Circle of Life.
We know each Sign has its Ruling Planet and each Sign and Planet has
a negative or positive state. The negative being the lower nature
and the positive being the higher nature.
So in a way we are in a hypnotic sleep unless we awaken our
slumbering Will/Ego and attain the positive (together with the
negative to understand or appreciate the positive)the keyword being :
awake with knowledge in order to break the Wheel of Karma. And it
done through self effort and self knowledge. We either asleep or we
Jesus Christ did this. The Risen Man. God's Son as an example for
us to follow.
I do believe this 'philosophy' is in accordance to Dr Steiner's work.
Mediatations on the Signs of the Zodiac by John Jocelyn Rudolf
Steiner Press being my knowledge of this principle.
- Chantel wrote:
Haha, well, the power of attention and intention was Gurdjieff's aim
I believe. The worst thing we can do is be passive. I can sit down
to a Steiner lecture or book and passively read the information and
waste a WHOLE lot of time. Or I can be attentive and alive and
acknowledge the power of my mind. Sometimes being attentive needs
strengthened. It is needed for ritual and practice in all sorts.
Whether you are sacrificing a lamb or practicing a concentration
Hi Chantel hope you are well :)
Rudolf Steiner shared his knowledge with us as a huge gift to
humanity. Self-knowledge in Spiritual Affairs is extremely
important. So when someones says I visted you in your sleep you can
say (thanks to Dr Steiner) .. the science is not correct. In order
for you to visit me I have to perceive you inside me and in turn
express outwardly your form from what I perceived you to be.
They might be doing this but with the correct spiritual science
knowledge it may be understood correctly and then the one realises
there are check and balances. Thanks to Dr Steiner the knowledge
Basic example but many similiar areas Dr Steiner's work corrects
untruths purely because of the science.
Also, we cannot read in the spiritual worlds - we take in visual
picture forms but actually reading of words is not able. The Doctor
explains this to us. So while in Earth it is important to read as
much as we can so we take this information with us into the spritual
worlds and have a better understanding of the worlds around us.
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>> God's Son as an example for us to follow.Dear Caryn,
>I do believe this 'philosophy' is in accordance to Dr Steiner's work.
> Mediatations on the Signs of the Zodiac by John Jocelyn Rudolf
> Steiner Press being my knowledge of this principle
> Love Caryn
Used to have that book.
In conclusion to "According to Luke", Dr. Steiner spoke of the meaning
of the fundamental words,"Peace in human hearts in whom goodwill
"More than any other document, the Luke Gospel, if fully understood,
fills human souls with the warm love that allows peace to dwell on
earth as the most exquisite reflection of divine mysteries."
Earlier he gave,
"Until individuals are fully illumined by self-awareness, until they
can distinquish between good and evil, from within the I,their
earlier, original nature is visible through the veil of later
degradation. Only the childlike element in modern human beings
preserves a remnant of human nature as it was before we succombed to
the influence of Luciferic beings."
Recently found Starman's "East Meets West" articles. The one "Various
Thoughts:The Fourth Dimension, Astroposophy" is very informative. He
mentions astrologer Robert Powell( has series,one title on
reincarnation). Have you seen his books? Starman also mentions Willi
Sucher, whose works at the time of his 2003 article, were not
available. SteinerbooksCatalog03/04 has his Cosmic Christianity.NINA
- Hi Nina
Hope you are well - we went a bit quite didn't we!
I haven't read Robert Powell but will look out for it.
I loved what you said : "Peace in human hearts in whom goodwill
A wonderful affirmative thought for the day :)
Love and Light
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> I haven't read Robert Powell but will look out for it...CarynEnjoy your holiday Caryn!
When I read your history, thought you'd like these books:
Christian Hermetic Astrology:The Star of Magi and the Life of Christ
Hermetic Astrology,vol.1, Astrology and Reincarnation
Hermetic Astrology,vol.2, Astrological Biography(significance of time
fr conception to birth considered in relation to the unfolding of
human biography in seven-year cycles.)
Your peaceful radiance is an inspiration. NINA
- --- In email@example.com, "Nina" <emeraldnina@...> wrote:
>Those books sound wonderful - thanks so much Nina.
> --- In firstname.lastname@example.org, "thepathofthesunflower"
> > I haven't read Robert Powell but will look out for it...Caryn
> Enjoy your holiday Caryn!
> When I read your history, thought you'd like these books:
> Christian Hermetic Astrology:The Star of Magi and the Life of Christ
> Hermetic Astrology,vol.1, Astrology and Reincarnation
> Hermetic Astrology,vol.2, Astrological Biography(significance of time
> fr conception to birth considered in relation to the unfolding of
> human biography in seven-year cycles.)
> Your peaceful radiance is an inspiration. NINA
Your gentle wisdom is beautiful and appreciated.