- James who art thou with your teachings of all these things and the
fourth way method? Is this east meets west? Is this the memories of
... and the sky exploded with a mighty crash as we fell into the sun
and the first one said to the second one there I hope you having fun ..
Is this just you?
A song for me:
Have you come here for forgiveness
Have you come to raise the dead
Have you come to play Jesus
To the lepers in your head
Did I ask too much
More than I got
You ask me to enter
Then you make me crawl
Love is a temper
Love is a flame
Am I holding unto all I got
And all I got is you
We one but we not the same
He is only supposed to post here but he doesn't like to:
Somehow he got out or we left the door open here.
My inbox is getting full of it. As typical.
Starman - your thoughts?
- *******James Wyly is some 50 year old man from California, according to his
info sheet, who would never have answered your question, because he joined
this group yesterday and immediately set his membership to receive no e-mail
from it, then sent to us all his frequently profane conversations from some
other group, apparently believing that we all desperately wanted to hear
them ----while of course we had nothing to say that he was interested in
hearing, so his "communication" ('munication'?) was all one-way.
Now he couldn't answer if he wanted to because he has been returned to
the Outer Darkness reserved for spammers and all those not interested in
Steiner---- which, in case they never noticed, is the name of this group,
Gurdjieff is an interesting case of a failed guru, one of so many in the
twentieth century. I suppose you could say he was trying to do what Steiner
actually did, but he couldn't because he didn't progress high enough, see
clearly enough, and was addicted to playing mind games with everyone who
came to him to learn instead of doing anything productive with them.
(Gurdjieff once came to the Goetheanum and met Steiner, I heard, but I have
no details of their meeting.)
If people find their way to Gurdjieff, well, lead them along to Steiner
and they'll find the real thing they're looking for. Of course they will
first have to deal with the Lucifer within them, as you correctly picked up
about the source of 'inspiration' for Mr. Wyly--- which most lower spiritual
leaders than Steiner are oblivious to and which is what corrupts their
>From: "thepathofthesunflower" <thepathofthesunflower@...>_________________________________________________________________
>Subject: [steiner] James Wyly
>Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2006 08:49:11 -0000
>James who art thou with your teachings of all these things and the
>fourth way method? Is this east meets west? Is this the memories of
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- Starman and Stephen your level heads over the James posts is
appreciated. This is the very reason why Rudolf Steiner is such a
solid foundation for spiritual guidance. Anthroposophy - a spiritual
science using the rational mind.
The interesting thing with James's posts is it has brought to light
what is going on in the internet world. Propaganda hypnotism. Using
both Ahriman (material) forces in technology and Luciferic (illusive)
influences in playing with people's mind.
I often wonder what the doctor would have said about the internet world
if he was speaking in this day.
- Thanks Stephen
That is quite a claim James is making in his forum. You know it is
said 'One cannot stand in the same river twice'.
The river runs swiftly and smoothly there is no opportunity to think
where the water was before it passed by; for it has already gone.
I sincerely hope James finds peace within himself; the information he
is carrying can make one quite dizzy and caught up in it all. I can
understand where he is coming from though and reading his posts I
take it his intentions are for good. But 'normal' people will not
understand this or him and this may create confusement in a already
Voidness or nothingness is a great place to be at times its calming
and silent; no bothers or hassles - just empty space - filled with
the ever knowing presence of Love in its stillness.
May the angels of Love be with you James.
- --- In firstname.lastname@example.org, "thepathofthesunflower"
>> I sincerely hope James finds peace within himself;Dear Caryn,
> May the angels of Love be with you James.
Many of us may have felt that wish you so beautifully described. But
you made it love in expression...Thanks Sunflower! NINA
P.S. Please write me privately about your kids/we can share.
- Dear all,
James first message on is group: 28 July 2005 is copied below
It speaks for itself and does not invite answers.
The group has 2 messages, 2 others have been withdrawn.
The description of the group by James is below.
This is a group specially for James Wyly to post in so that he will no
longer need to crosspost with such extreme and dedicated tenacity to all
those lists that are ENTIRELY unappreciative of his exalted being and who
would like him to stop. All those who wish to read his messages and/or
engage with him can join this group. It is hoped that this will be
satisfactory for all concerned.
Keyword to help James find his way here: GURDJIEFF
Welcome my first disciplies:
As my stature and Being becomes more and more well-known throughout
the world, whether in Republican, Fourth Way, Osho or conspiracy
theory circles, by zealots of all stripes, I give you my sacred word,
you first five disciples, that I will not forget you in this, the
first stages of my mission.
So five of you have gathered and silently wait with aniticpation for
me to speak. Yes, "five" it is indeed a magic number and not without
coincidence. For example, do you know, oh blessed disciples,
that "five" is the number of the types of anti-depressants that the
medico-quacks prescribe for me which I refuse to take?
Well, enough 'wiseacring', old fool, to imitate the style of Gurdjieff
as I so frequently and obnoxiously do, without the slightest bit of
understanding. Now where was I...Oh yes, my welcome to my
disciples.....Ahem....Having recently read Gurdjieff's writings, while
on a brief break fron my favorite hobby, which has become an
insatiable compulsion for me, namely, onanism, and upon reading them
having been the only person clever enough on this planet to have
figured out what they mean, I draw the conclusion without the
slightest bit of embarassment, that I, James Wyly, am the second-
coming of Gurdjieff. He has entered me and speaks through me.
I have no doubt that all is proceeding according to plan and my
Ouspensky, Nicoll and doggie Philo, are all here in various
incarnations. I must now return to my favorite habbit but will deign
to speak to you again soon enough.
Enlightened Being Extraordinaire