Mary Magdalene, Peter the Christ, and Judas
> Meditate on the Crucifixion . . .A recreation of events in the Gospels
> and your own inevitable ceasation.
> "old man"
associated with Mary Magdalene:
> By night on my bed I sought him whomThe above is simple to understand from the point
> my soul loveth: I sought him, but I found
> him not.
> I will rise now, and go about the city in
> the streets, and in the broad ways I will
> seek him whom my soul loveth: I sought him,
> but I found him not.
> The watchmen that go about the city found
> me: to whom I said, Saw ye him whom my soul
> It was but a little that I passed from them,
> but I found him whom my soul loveth: I held
> him, and would not let him go, until I had
> brought him into my mother's house, and into
> the chamber of her that conceived me.
> I charge you, daughters, by the roes, and by
> the hinds of the field, that ye stir not up,
> nor awake my love, till he please.
> Who is this that cometh out of the wilderness
> like pillars of smoke, perfumed with myrrh and
> frankincense, with all powders of the merchant?
> Behold his bed; threescore valiant men are about
> They all hold swords, being expert in war:
> every man hath his sword upon his thigh
> because of fear in the night.
> This shall be read as a lamentation, sung
> with instruments of string.
> Love always
> A. (Mary Magdalene)
> I find it very interesting how Madame
> after conceiving and birthing G. child
> chose to keep that child's parentage a
> deep dark secret. When Michel gained
> control after Madame's death, the
> practice continued to "never speak
> about THAT".
> "stone thrower"
of view that IT DOESN'T MATTER!
Not important for the inner life.
To the Devil!!
James (Jesus) said to his brethren:
I am happy with ana, never before have I
met a real woman on these lists. The inner
senses that are stirring are somehow very
strong in connection with Ana as though
she were somewhere here in town near to
me, and so it is a question for me to
Since it is beyond my understanding, the
warm embrace I sense so strongly with her
other than just the back-and-forth here
on this list, but is something else. I do
not understand it, so it is my sincerest
wish that Ana accepts me as one of her
own children simply because it is only
the honest and dedicated man who rises
to the occasion and can suckle freely
knowing he is loved.
Ana helps me to "get it up" in the same
way as a real woman does who stands by
her man, so I can "fight better," which
Ana and I can role play here with a
reality more real than real, more
material than material, more sexy
than sexy, and denial of only denial
Self-denial must constantly and
progressively shift inwards in terms
of the inner life and this would be
the aim of this internet role-play.
Role-play is a means for opening a
door to the real world.
Who knows . . . I may actually pay
for Ana's passage to America for
the joy of meeting with her, and
then to know her forever if she
"Do not suppose that I have come to bring
peace to the earth. I did not come to bring
peace, but a sword. For I have come to turn
a man against his father, a daughter against
- Matthew 10:34-5
So, WHO OF YOU PARTICIPANTS ON THESE LISTS
WILL BE THE FIRST TO THROW A STONE AT ANA
MARY MAGDALENE -AND- WHO IS ALSO NOT DEPRAVED
TO THE CORE??
> James is great, and has always shownAna Mary Magdalene stood up and greeted all of
> respect. I'll chose a nice person over
> a smart ass any day to associate with.
> And who needs negativity? Only Not I's
> are negative. I don't know about Madame,
> or who she is;
> a. (Mary Magdalene)
her brethren and said to them:
"Do not mourn or grieve or be irresolute,
for his grace will be with you all and
will defend you. Let us rather praise his
greatness, FOR HE PREPARED US AND MADE US
INTO MEN." When Ana Mary Magdalene said this,
their hearts changed for the better, and they
began to discuss the words of James [the Savior]:
> I thank God for people like James,[Peter was the first to defend Jesus]
> and the nice gentlemen and ladies
> who are interested in the freedom
> of Man, and not in enslaving one
> to their own selfish will.
> a. "first class actress"
Peter said to Mary:
"Sister, we know that the Savior loved
you more than other women
[cf. John 11:5, Luke 10:38-42].
"Tell us the words of the Savior which
you have in mind since you know them;
and we do not, nor have we heard of
> This is just not practical work pondering.Ana Mary Magdalene answered and said:
> There is something wrong. I have been
> thinking recently about all I've heard
> on these lists by people who think they
> Talking about who Gurdjieff had sex with
> and speculating about this and that, and
> cute little phrases like, "The Devil Wears
> Prada", instead of trying to find out what
> G. meant between the lines of how to work
> on oneself. It is not even so much between
> the lines. I can find years of full time
> work for anyone interested if one would
> actually apply the Aphorisms in their
> daily lives, but who really wants to
> work? Nobody I know!
> N. (Peter)
> all I know is, that we all need to eat"What is hidden from you I will impart to
> and survive in this world and I would
> never tempt someone in need or threaten,
> or have dominion over another human being.
> Man was given dominion over many things,
> but Man was not given to have dominion
> over another Man/Woman. And Jesus taught
> that, how to be a Christian. And I trust
> in the King of Kings, which is to come,
> to slay the remnant. which is the temptor,
> and is that Jacob, And may he come in great
> a. (Mary Magdalene)
And she, Ana Mary Magdelene, began to say
the following words to them.
"I," she said, "I saw the Lord in a vision
and I said to him, 'Lord, I saw you today
in a vision.'
He answered and said to me, 'Blessed are you,
since you did not waver at the sight of me.
For where the mind is, there is your countenance'
[cf. Matt. 6:21].
Mary Magdelene said to him:
'Lord, the mind which sees the vision, does it
see it through the soul or through the spirit?'
The Savior answered and said, 'It sees neither
through the soul nor through the spirit, but the
mind, which is between the two, which sees the
vision, and it is...'"
Nothing is born of theories and no one is
born of theories. Results and progress
depend on the intensity with which true
knowledge is practiced and then one is no
longer one of the mass of educated people
who have knowledge but not understanding.
There are those who have yet to learn the
distinction between what can be grasped by
the educated and rational mind and what
only higher mind can formulate and know.
Higher mind merges with the intuition and
it is then that the mind is as a point of
focus, or prism, which sees the vision,
and it is . . .
JUDAS Afdsjk ---> Sacred Individuality
"This devoted and beloved apostle, initiated
by Jesus Christ, was named Judas Afdsjk.
> and i have a personal"Anyone wishing to draw knowledge of the truth
> interest in prana, okidanokh
> afdsjk (zoo keeper Judas)
from the present version of this Holy Writ will
arrive at the conviction, which will become fixed
in his essence, that this Judas Afdsjk was the
BASEST of all conceivable beings, and a
conscienceless, DOUBLE-FACED TRAITOR.
"But in fact, not only was this Judas Afdsjk the
MOST FAITHFUL AND DEVOTED OF ALL THE CLOSE FOLLOWERS
Jesus [JAMES] Christ, but it was solely thanks
to his Reason and presence of mind that all the
acts of this Sacred Individual could produce that
result [RESULTS OF THE ENCOUNTER WITH BABY APE
BRUCE] which, if it did not lead to the total
destruction of the consequences of the properties
of the organ kundabuffer in these unfortunate
three-brained beings, was nevertheless, during
twenty centuries, [DURING TWENTY-THREE YEARS] the
source of nourishment and inspiration for the
majority of them, and made their desolate
existence at least a little endurable.
--chpater 38, religion
> as there is no apparent method to your"I think myself that if Judas Afdsjk was
> posts i suggested a theme. as to your
> internet method, i'm not particularly
> afdsjk (Judas)
portrayed in their Holy Writ [Fourth Way
Internet Writ] in this way, it may have
been because it was necessary for someone
or other belonging to the mentioned types
to BELITTLE FOR A CERTAIN PURPOSE THE
SIGNIFICANCE OF James Wyly [Jesus Christ]
himself, [and his 4th way internet method].
"That is to say, it would make him appear so
naive, so unable to feel and see beforehand,
in a word, so unperfected that, in spite of
knowing this Judas Afdsjk and existing with
him for so long [23 years], he failed to sense
and be aware that this nearest disciple of his
was a perfidious traitor, who would sell him
for thirty worthless pieces of silver, or
for THIRTY PIECES OF BUTTER FROM WORTHLESS
> i have had lots exposure to some fairlyAT THIS POINT IN HIS TALES, BEELZEBUB AND ALL
> old-in-the-work folks and it is undeniable
> that certain "help" comes with barely an
> effort. this is seeminly at variance to
> the nuts and bolts of what is/was called
> the fourth way, and i have a personal
> interest in prana, okidanokh, and
> iraniranumange. baraka too. i particularly
> thought it odd that you referred to the
> third lever along the lines of self remembering
> because i don't think gurdjieff ever posited
> something so linear, but perhaps he did.
> i tend to think efforts are more on the
> line of making butter from air, if you know
> what i mean.
> afdsjk (zoo keeper Judas)
THE PASSENGERS OF THE INTERSYSTEM SHIP KARNAK
SUDDENLY SENSED IN THEIR ORGANS OF TASTE A
SLIGHTLY SOUR AND BITTER FLAVOR.
The sensation was caused by a special
'MAGNETIC CURRENT,' [OKIDANOKH TSUNAMI] released
from the steering compartment [computer
terminal] to inform all the passengers [list
participants] that their ship was approaching
the place of their destination, in this case,
the Holy Planet Purgatory . . .
TO PAY FOR SINS!!!
Gurdjieff talked about abilities with which
he said he was depraved to the core, such
depravity as I have seen myself, for myself,
All of the above is 4th way internet method
TO SEE THE ROLES
And to see them means to see others in
the same way and with the same precision
down to the bone and inside the bone even
to such a level as to enter into the bowels
of Hell as well as of the Earth, and above
the Earth, as Christ did, and Christ said
that others will do works greater than He,
and such a CONSCIOUS BLADE is necessary for
practical application of Art of Divine War,
for what is a day by day deadly stealth
operation in terms of the inner life, that
is to say, deadly invisible combat. All of
this, of course, has nothing to do with the
give and take of life and death in terms of
the world of itself, but it is necessary to
understand that the laws are the same,
everywhere the same, and with the tenacity
and strength of a lion, to reverse all
involuntary manifestations by sitting
with and not reacting to tensions
especially in association with the physical
manifestations of all of those emotional
states in terms of ordinary life, and the
subjective names for these physiological
states are endless -- hate, fear, love,
sentimentality, desire, submission,
satisfaction, anger, discontent,
frustration, and so on.
The vast sensory system called by Plato
the soul of all things, the anima mundi,
the underlying consciousness.
Gurdjieff, from Views:
Is the actor's profession useful
in developing coordinated work of
The more an actor acts, the more the work of
centers becomes separated in him [state of
self-remembering]. In order to act, one must
first of all be an artist.
4TH WAY INTERNET METHOD
SIT WITH TENSIONS!!
[Core Area Prime Directive]
Therefore the sage concentrateth
upon one Will, and it is as a light
to the whole world. Hiding himself,
he shineth; withdrawing himself, he
attracteth notice; humbling himself,
he gaineth force to achieve his Will.
Because he striveth not, no man may
contend against him.
[Esoteric teaching of Art of War]
The softest substance hunteth down
the hardest. The Unsubstantial
penetrateth where there is no opening.
Here is the Virtue of Inertia.
[Virtue of Sitting with Cosmic Tension]
[Virtue of sitting still!!
. . . . . sitting still!!
. . . . . sitting still!!]
Few are they who attain: whose speech
is Silence, whose Work is Inertia.
He who attracteth to himself all that
is under Heaven doth so without effort.
[Sitting with God the Word]
He who maketh [wilful] effort is not
able to attract it.
Meeting on the Level,
Parting on the Square,
Such as We,
We the People,
In God We Trust.
The wise man is foursquare
and avoideth aggression; his
corners do not injure others.
He moveth in a straight line,
and turneth not aside therefrom;
he is brilliant, but doth not
blind with his brightness.
[Romulus and Remus]
Do great things while they are yet small,
hard things while they are yet easy;
for all things, how great or hard soever,
have a beginning when they are little
and easy. So thus the wise man
accomplisheth the greatest tasks
without undertaking anything important.
[Flexibility of Real "I"]
So then rigidity and hardness are the
stigmata of death; elasticity and
adaptability of life.
He then who putteth forth strength is not
victorious; even as a strong tree filleth
Thus the hard and rigid have the inferior
place, the soft and elastic [Real "I"] the
A MAN MUST MAKE A CHOICE.
But when choosing the result is very
often deceit, that is to say, a man
tries to deceive himself. In words he
chooses work but in reality he does not
want to lose his peace.
THE RESULT IS THAT HE SITS
BETWEEN TWO STOOLS.
This is the most uncomfortable position
of all. He does no work at all and he
gets no comfort whatever. But it is very
difficult for a man to decide to throw
everything to the devil and begin real
And why is it difficult?
Principally because his life is too easy
and even if he considers it bad he is
already accustomed to it. It is better
for it to be bad, yet known.
BUT HERE THERE IS SOMETHING NEW AND
HE DOES NOT EVEN KNOW WHETHER ANY RESULT
CAN BE GOT FROM IT OR NOT.
And besides, the most difficult thing
here is that it is necessary to obey
someone, to submit to someone. If a man
could invent difficulties and sacrifices
for himself, he would sometimes go very far.
But the point here is that this is not
FOURTH WAY INTERNET METHOD
It is necessary to obey another or to
follow the direction of general work,
THE CONTROL OF WHICH CAN BELONG ONLY
TO ONE PERSON.
Such submission is the most difficult
thing that there can be for a man who
thinks that he is capable of deciding
anything or of doing anything.
OF COURSE, WHEN HE GETS RID OF THESE
FANTASIES AND SEES WHAT HE REALLY IS,
THE DIFFICULTY DISAPPEARS.
This, however, can only take place in
the course of work.
> but who really wantsBut to begin to work and particularly
> to work? Nobody I
> N. (Peter)
to continue to work is very difficult
and it is difficult because life runs
Then the Cock crew three times:
> Yes, I have a special bond withAs for Afdsjk:
> James Wyly, we have been through a
> similar hell, for years and years,
> which is beyond description. There
> maybe others ways to this common
> ground that I am experiencing, but
> I do not know about them.
> N. (Peter the Christ)
Consider the story of Oedipus and how it
was that he lost his vision for not
seeing his sins, punished himself, blinded
himself, at the shock of seeing himself,
and set out to live as best he could as a
homeless blind old beggar until finally he
was met with and was then guided by Theseus
who, himself a hero to be sure,
understood the situation with Oedipus
having "been through it" or "been there,
and done that" himself, and, with objective
pity, guided the poor fellow until the fellow
truly became a "POOR" fellow, that is to say,
melted down again, and only with the guidance
of someone who has done this before him,
someone who knows, someone perhaps unlike
anyone else since Gurdjieff (if not greater).
And what does "greater" mean?
Not greater as in, let us say, better, or
more superior, but something else.
Ponder on this.