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  • Mathew Morrell
    Now, if I remember correctly, Blavatsky coined the term Aryan while traveling in Tibet. So I guess you could say it s a borrowed term, maybe. After all she
    Message 1 of 2 , Jun 14, 2005
      Now, if I remember correctly, Blavatsky coined the term "Aryan" while
      traveling in Tibet. So I guess you could say it's a borrowed term,
      maybe. After all she did take it from some other culture. She
      wasn't reinventing the wheel.

      But the Tibetans conceived the idea of the Aryans (and human
      evolution) far, far differently than Blavatsky, or for that matter,
      differently than the West. For them it was a less material idea.
      Ancient civilizations believed that humanity had long ago reached a
      zenith point in history, a Golden Age, afterwhich mankind slowly de-
      evolves from former greatness; and that therefore it is the work of
      the mystic to escape historical de-evolvement by severing their link
      to mana (suffering), thereby severing their link from Body, Earth and
      Ego. Blavatsky's concept of a superior race is far more material.
      It was something "to come," yet to be realized, or realized again.


      The idea of an evolved superior race is, I suppose, harmless in
      itself. Many prophetic, apocalyptic thinkers have predicted a coming
      age when mankind reaches a zenith in superiority over past ages. The
      Book of Revelations predicts the coming of the spiritual man and
      spiritual woman, Rev. ch. 12. Islam foresees a day when men are,
      not necessarily enlightened per se, but freed from evil to live in
      eternal paradise. Even Marxists foresee the coming of the "New
      Man," a spontaneous, creative person free to explore his internal
      potential without having to burden himself with economic obligations.


      What Blavatsky's Aryan race theory required to be truly dangerous was
      a person like Von Liszt, someone who believed that the "ultimate"
      stage of mankind had already arrived: that it was right now, not at
      some date far in the future, and that it was Germany's responsibility
      as Aryans to obliterate inferior races and take control of the
      world. In a way Von Liszt is similar in spirit to people who believe
      mankind today is evolved enough to live in a state of universal
      brotherhood.
    • DoctorStarman@aol.com
      In a message dated 6/14/2005 6:16:20 PM Eastern Daylight Time, ... *******Actually, the people we call the Hindus refer to themselves, still today, as the
      Message 2 of 2 , Jun 15, 2005
        In a message dated 6/14/2005 6:16:20 PM Eastern Daylight Time, tma4cbt@... writes:

        Now, if I remember correctly, Blavatsky coined the term "Aryan" while
        traveling in Tibet....



        *******Actually, the people we call the 'Hindus' refer to themselves, still today, as the 'Aryan' folk ----their oldest epics, the Mahabharata and Ramanyana, being the memory of the great war against the dark-skinned 'Dravidian' people who still live in the south of India and Sri Lanka, who already lived in the Indian subcontinent when the Aryans came in from the North and warred with them, overcoming their degenerate culture of black magic and human sacrifice thousands of years ago. These 'Aryan' folk later went westward and started the Persian civilization----'Persia' is the Greek name for that area of the world, after its legendary founder Perses, but when the people there just chose a modern name for their country, it was the country of the 'Arans'---'Iran'.

           What led to the Nazi Aryan Race theories was that the Brothers Grimm and other philologists, in Goethe's time, discovered by the study of root words that almost all European languages had descended from one source, and that source was Sanskrit. They named these European languages the "Indo-Aryan group". (More recently some great work in this field has been carried on by University of Chicago academics.) This discovery, and corollary ones like the Law of Consonantal Shift, coincided with the German peoples' new pride in their language and culture and re-discovery of their myths, for instance as given operatic form by Wagner, so that there gradually developed the idea of a former pure European or "Aryan" Man who had given Europe its greatness, which is now being watered down by capitalism and materialism (Nietzche, Wagner).... and (once again) Wagner brought in "the Dark Side of the Force" by specifically identifying this polluting influence of the 'Pure Aryan Man' as Jews moving into Europe. Wagner was Hitler's idol, and tutor.

           So Blavatsky was a small player in all this, except in the occult and masonic circles where she was just one of many writing about the "Aryan Race" or in other words the pure European civilized man who had created enlightened society.               -starman



        But the Tibetans conceived the idea of the Aryans (and human
        evolution) far, far differently than Blavatsky, or for that matter,
        differently than the West.  For them it was a less material idea. 
        Ancient civilizations believed that humanity had long ago reached a
        zenith point in history, a Golden Age,  afterwhich mankind slowly de-
        evolves from former greatness; and that therefore it is the work of
        the mystic to escape historical de-evolvement by severing their link
        to mana (suffering), thereby severing their link from Body, Earth and
        Ego.  Blavatsky's concept of a superior race is far more material. 
        It was something "to come," yet to be realized, or realized again.  
           The idea of an evolved superior race is, I suppose, harmless in
        itself.  Many prophetic, apocalyptic thinkers have predicted a coming
        age when mankind reaches a zenith in superiority over past ages.  The
        Book of Revelations predicts the coming of the spiritual man and
        spiritual woman, Rev. ch. 12.   Islam foresees a day when men are,
        not necessarily enlightened per se, but freed from evil to live in
        eternal paradise.  Even Marxists foresee the coming of the "New
        Man,"  a spontaneous, creative person free to explore his internal
        potential without having to burden himself with economic obligations.
           What Blavatsky's Aryan race theory required to be truly dangerous was
        a person like Von Liszt, someone who believed that the "ultimate"
        stage of mankind had already arrived:  that it was right now, not at
        some date far in the future, and that it was Germany's responsibility
        as Aryans to obliterate inferior races and take control of the
        world.  In a way Von Liszt is similar in spirit to people who believe
        mankind today is evolved enough to live in a state of universal
        brotherhood. 


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