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  • antrolutz
    Hi Dr Starman! I made this table in German on qualities of the planetary seals by Rudolf Steiner out of different sources. Would you please check if it matches
    Message 1 of 7 , Aug 6, 2002
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      Hi Dr Starman!

      I made this table in German on qualities of the planetary seals by
      Rudolf Steiner out of different sources.
      Would you please check if it matches with your understanding of it?
      If you find the time, a translation to English would be most welcome.

      Greetings, Lutz

      1. SATURN
      Intervall: Prim / Ton: g
      Samstag / blau / Metall: Blei
      Buche / Nadelholzgewächse
      Laut: u / Organ: Milz
      Oriphiel / Gnosis

      2. SONNE
      Intervall: Sekunde / Ton: a
      Sonntag / weiss / Metall: Gold
      Esche / Gräsergewächse
      Laut: au / Organ: Herz
      Michael / Empirismus

      3. MOND
      Intervall: Terz / Ton: h
      Montag / violett / Metall: Silber
      Kirschbaum / Liliengewächse
      Laut: ei / Organ: Gehirn
      Gabriel / Okkultismus

      4. MARS
      Intervall: Quarte / Ton: c
      Dienstag / rot / Metall: Eisen
      Eiche / Rosengewächse
      Laut: e / Organ: Galle
      Samael / Voluntarismus

      5. MERKUR
      Intervall: Quinte / Ton: d
      Mittwoch / gelb / Quecksilber
      Ulme / Schmetterlingsbluetler
      Laut: i / Organ: Lunge
      Raphael / Transzendentalismus

      6. JUPITER
      Intervall: Sexte / Ton: e
      Donnerstag / orange / Zinn
      Ahorn / Korbbluetler
      Laut: o / Organ: Leber
      Zachariel / Logismus

      7. VENUS
      Intervall: Septime / Ton: f
      Freitag / gruen / Metall: Kupfer
      Birke / Doldenbluetler
      Laut: a / Organ: Niere
      Anael / Mystik

      "Jede Linie, jede Rundung,
      alles in diesen Formen ist so,
      dass man schlummernde Kräfte
      in der Seele weckt, wenn man
      sich in das Ganze einlebt." RS
    • eurythmy
      dear Lutz, I do not know German, but Steiner gave THREE different concordancesbetween vowels and planets. Franky ... From: antrolutz To:
      Message 2 of 7 , Aug 9, 2002
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        dear Lutz,
        I do not know German, but Steiner gave THREE different concordancesbetween vowels and planets.
        Franky
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        From: "antrolutz" <info@...>
        To: <steiner@yahoogroups.com>
        Sent: Tuesday, August 06, 2002 2:06 PM
        Subject: [steiner] planetary seals


        Hi Dr Starman!

        I made this table in German on qualities of the planetary seals by
        Rudolf Steiner out of different sources.
        Would you please check if it matches with your understanding of it?
        If you find the time, a translation to English would be most welcome.

        Greetings, Lutz

        1. SATURN
        Intervall: Prim / Ton: g
        Samstag / blau / Metall: Blei
        Buche / Nadelholzgewächse
        Laut: u / Organ: Milz
        Oriphiel / Gnosis

        2. SONNE
        Intervall: Sekunde / Ton: a
        Sonntag / weiss / Metall: Gold
        Esche / Gräsergewächse
        Laut: au / Organ: Herz
        Michael / Empirismus

        3. MOND
        Intervall: Terz / Ton: h
        Montag / violett / Metall: Silber
        Kirschbaum / Liliengewächse
        Laut: ei / Organ: Gehirn
        Gabriel / Okkultismus

        4. MARS
        Intervall: Quarte / Ton: c
        Dienstag / rot / Metall: Eisen
        Eiche / Rosengewächse
        Laut: e / Organ: Galle
        Samael / Voluntarismus

        5. MERKUR
        Intervall: Quinte / Ton: d
        Mittwoch / gelb / Quecksilber
        Ulme / Schmetterlingsbluetler
        Laut: i / Organ: Lunge
        Raphael / Transzendentalismus

        6. JUPITER
        Intervall: Sexte / Ton: e
        Donnerstag / orange / Zinn
        Ahorn / Korbbluetler
        Laut: o / Organ: Leber
        Zachariel / Logismus

        7. VENUS
        Intervall: Septime / Ton: f
        Freitag / gruen / Metall: Kupfer
        Birke / Doldenbluetler
        Laut: a / Organ: Niere
        Anael / Mystik

        "Jede Linie, jede Rundung,
        alles in diesen Formen ist so,
        dass man schlummernde Kräfte
        in der Seele weckt, wenn man
        sich in das Ganze einlebt." RS




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      • DRStarman2001@aol.com
        ... *******Here it is----hopefully not jumbled up as so many tables in word-processing documents get when e-mailed. ... *******The terms Mysticism ,
        Message 3 of 7 , Aug 10, 2002
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          Hi Dr Starman!
          I made this table in German on qualities of the planetary seals by
          Rudolf Steiner out of different sources.
          Would you please check if it matches with your understanding of it?
          If you find the time, a translation to English would be most welcome.

          Greetings, Lutz


          *******Here it is----hopefully not jumbled up as so many tables in word-processing documents get when e-mailed.


          1. SATURN                          1. SATURN
          Intervall: Prim / Ton: g            INTERVAL: TONIC   NOTE: G      
          Samstag / blau / Metall: Blei  SATURDAY--BLUE--Metal: LEAD
          Buche / Nadelholzgewächse  Beech tree
          Laut: u / Organ: Milz             Vowel: U (oo) Organ: Spleen
          Oriphiel / Gnosis                  Archangel: Oriphiel   Gnosticism

          2. SONNE                             2. SUN
          Intervall: Sekunde / Ton: a      INTERVAL: SECOND   NOTE: A
          Sonntag / weiss / Metall: Gold   SUNDAY--WHITE--Metal: GOLD
          Esche / Gräsergewächse         Ash
          Laut: au / Organ: Herz            Vowel: AU (ow) Organ: Heart
          Michael / Empirismus             Archangel: Michael   Empiricism

          3. MOND                                 3. MOON
          Intervall: Terz / Ton: h                INTERVAL: THIRD   NOTE: B
          Montag / violett / Metall: Silber   MONDAY--VIOLET--Metal: SILVER
          Kirschbaum / Liliengewächse      Cherry Tree
          Laut: ei / Organ: Gehirn              Vowel: Ei (oy) Organ: Brain
          Gabriel / Okkultismus                Archangel: Gabriel   Occultism

          4. MARS                                  4. MARS
          Intervall: Quarte / Ton: c              INTERVAL: FOURTH   NOTE: C
          Dienstag / rot / Metall: Eisen     TUESDAY--RED--Metal: IRON
          Eiche / Rosengewächse          Oak tree
          Laut: e / Organ: Galle             Vowel: E (Ay) Organ: Gall
          Samael / Voluntarismus   ***My list says Archangel URIEL    Voluntarism

          5. MERKUR                             5. MERCURY
          Intervall: Quinte / Ton: d             INTERVAL: FIFTH   NOTE: D
          Mittwoch / gelb / Quecksilber    WEDNESDAY--YELLOW--Metal: QUICKSILVER
          Ulme / Schmetterlingsbluetler    Elm tree
          Laut: i / Organ: Lunge                Vowel: I (ee) Organ: Lungs
          Raphael / Transzendentalismus   Archangel: Raphael   Transcendentalism

          6. JUPITER                                 6. JUPITER
          Intervall: Sexte / Ton: e                INTERVAL: SIXTH   NOTE: E
          Donnerstag / orange / Zinn           THURSDAY--ORANGE--Metal: TIN
          Ahorn / Korbbluetler                    Maple tree
          Laut: o / Organ: Leber               Vowel: O (oh) Organ: Liver
          Zachariel / Logismus                 Archangel: Zachariel   Logic

          7. VENUS                                     7. VENUS
          Intervall: Septime / Ton: f                INTERVAL: SEVENTH   NOTE: F
          Freitag / gruen / Metall: Kupfer      FRIDAY--GREEN--Metal: COPPER
          Birke / Doldenbluetler              BIRCH tree
          Laut: a / Organ: Niere               Vowel: A (Ah) Organ: Kidneys
          Anael / Mystik                         Archangel: Amael or Anael   Mysticism


          *******The terms "Mysticism", "Empiricism" etc. are from Steiner's fascinating astrology (in the lectures called Human and Cosmic Thought) in which he identifies 12 philosophical points of view associated with the signs, and then within these 7 Moods of Soul associated with the planets.
              The terms alonfgside the tree names I believe are his 7 divisions of the plant or etheric world but I don't know those offhand and the words are not easy to translate---anyone else here know them or is able to look them up?

          Dr. Starman
        • DRStarman2001@aol.com
          In a message dated 8/9/2002 1:30:55 PM Eastern Daylight Time, ... *******Please tell us about these if you could Franky. When I went to Eurythmy school we were
          Message 4 of 7 , Aug 10, 2002
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            In a message dated 8/9/2002 1:30:55 PM Eastern Daylight Time, eurythmy@... writes:


            dear Lutz,
            I do not know German, but Steiner gave THREE different concordancesbetween vowels and planets.
            Franky


            *******Please tell us about these if you could Franky. When I went to Eurythmy school we were all taught Ah for Venus (the sound of wonder), Ay for Mars (closing off within self), Ee for Mercury (self-consciousness), Oh for Jupiter (enclosing, caring for another) and then Oo for Saturn (uprightness, the law)--- the 5 pure vowels. Then the two dipthongs were Sun and Moon (Au---Ah-Oo and Oy--Oh-Ee). I've never seen any other associations in any literature before, then or since.

            Starman
          • eurythmy
            Dear Starman, It is in the Kisseleff book on eurythmy, unfortunately I cannot put my hand on it. Franky ... From: DRStarman2001@aol.com To:
            Message 5 of 7 , Aug 11, 2002
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              Dear Starman,
              It is in the Kisseleff book on eurythmy, unfortunately I cannot put my hand on it.
              Franky
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              Sent: Sunday, August 11, 2002 3:39 AM
              Subject: Re: [steiner] planetary seals

              In a message dated 8/9/2002 1:30:55 PM Eastern Daylight Time, eurythmy@... writes:


              dear Lutz,
              I do not know German, but Steiner gave THREE different concordancesbetween vowels and planets.
              Franky


              *******Please tell us about these if you could Franky. When I went to Eurythmy school we were all taught Ah for Venus (the sound of wonder), Ay for Mars (closing off within self), Ee for Mercury (self-consciousness), Oh for Jupiter (enclosing, caring for another) and then Oo for Saturn (uprightness, the law)--- the 5 pure vowels. Then the two dipthongs were Sun and Moon (Au---Ah-Oo and Oy--Oh-Ee). I've never seen any other associations in any literature before, then or since.

              Starman


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            • Lutz Baar
              Thank you Dr Starman for supplying the table in message #1147! I found Uriel to be equal to Oriphiel?? Talking about Eurythmy and the seals, have you or
              Message 6 of 7 , Aug 15, 2002
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                Thank you Dr Starman for supplying the table in message #1147!

                I found Uriel to be equal to Oriphiel??

                Talking about Eurythmy and the seals, have you or eurythmy-Franky tried to
                "do" the seals?
                I attach the Saturn-seal. The form to follow is easy to detect - the
                star-form in strait lines. Recommended music: Air by Bach.
                Greetings, Lutz
              • DRStarman2001@aol.com
                In a message dated 8/15/2002 1:09:12 PM Eastern Daylight Time, ... *******The study of the seven seals and how they transform into each other is also an
                Message 7 of 7 , Aug 15, 2002
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                  In a message dated 8/15/2002 1:09:12 PM Eastern Daylight Time, info@... writes:


                  Thank you Dr Starman for supplying the table in message #1147!

                  I found Uriel to be equal to Oriphiel??

                  Talking about Eurythmy and the seals, have you or eurythmy-Franky tried to
                  "do" the seals?
                  I attach the Saturn-seal. The form to follow is easy to detect - the
                  star-form in strait lines. Recommended music: Air by Bach.
                  Greetings, Lutz


                  *******The study of the seven seals and how they transform into each other is also an excellent way to develop the sense for the seven planes or dimensions of form. I'm working on an animation that will show the metamorphosis visually online here.

                  -starman
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